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Hello!

I have localised calendar to show month and day names in German. This =20=

month is M=E4rz. When I create a (La)TeX calendar, it's in UTF-8 =20
(because of my shell environment), the =E4 is 0xC3 0xA4 or =C3=A4 in ISO =
=20
8859-1 or =C3=80 in ISO 8859-15. The latter is my preferred LaTeX input =20=

encoding since it allows to use our currency sign, the =80. This now =20
makes it necessary to use the textcomp package in LaTeX.

Is it possible to make the output produced or its encoding more =20
flexible, adapt itself to the default encoding of GNU Emacs? If not, =20
could the documentation be updated to state which encoding is used =20
and that the user should use cal-tex-preamble-extra to adapt for that?

I have some difficulties with the documentation of cal-tex-preamble-=20
extra. Its doc-string contains

    For example, to include extra packages:
    "\\usepackage{foo}\n\\usepackage{bar}\n".

but when I use \\ and \n in the customisation interface these appear =20
unchanged in the calendar.tex buffer. (Actually LaTeX does not =20
complain when a few commands are concatenated to build a long line.) =20
I haven't yet saved my customisation =96 if this explains the =20
difference between theory and practise.


I'd also recommend to use the report class instead of article in the =20
LaTeX output generated: no useless AUX file is created then. Other =20
differences won't show up.

Another improvement would be to update some old LaTeX code, for =20
example the

	\special{landscape}{}%

This would only work for ancient DVI output. Modern XeTeX and pdfTeX =20
do not understand this. A completely orthogonal solution is:

	\usepackage[landscape]{geometry}

Between ``[=B4=B4 and ``]=B4=B4 is also the correct place to define the =
margin:

	=
\usepackage[landscape,nomarginpar,top=3D0pt,margin=3D{-2cm,-2cm}]{geometry=
}

It should be OK to just use:

	\usepackage[landscape,nomarginpar,top=3D0pt]{geometry}

It's not necessary to set \textwidth and \textheight. There is =20
probably no-one using a TeX distribution elder then 15 years, i.e., =20
it will be teTeX or TeX Live based. In these distributions a TeX =20
configuration file sets the default paper size. To switch from =20
landscape to portrait just remove the ``landscape,=B4=B4 option from the =
=20
line loading the geometry package or set clearly:

	\usepackage[portrait,nomarginpar,top=3D0pt]{geometry}

This package is in all TeX distributions. Since some years (<10) this =20=

is also true for the Latin Modern fonts (texdoc lm-info), which are =20
planned as a modernised update and substitute of all CM fonts in a =20
modern font format (OTF), which can be loaded via

	\usepackage{lmodern}

(actually PostScript fonts are used here). It could also be thought =20
of making the LaTeX output XeTeX compatible (loading ifpdf and =20
ifxetex packages, loading the fontspec package for XeTeX and setting =20
a system font, for example Times, or leaving the default Latin Modern).

In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7)
  of 2009-03-13 on localhost
Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version =20
11.0.40400000
configured using `configure  '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--=20
with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--x-includes=3D/opt/local/include' '--x-=20
libraries=3D/opt/local/lib' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/=20
Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/=20
Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/=20
pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=3D-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -=20
fPIC -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -=20=

foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-=20
partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=3D-=20
dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/opt/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=3D''

Important settings:
   value of $LC_ALL: nil
   value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
   value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8
   value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
   value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
   value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
   value of $LC_TIME: nil
   value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
   value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
   default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Info

Minor modes in effect:
   shell-dirtrack-mode: t
   diff-auto-refine-mode: t
   show-paren-mode: t
   display-time-mode: t
   desktop-save-mode: t
   tooltip-mode: t
   mouse-wheel-mode: t
   menu-bar-mode: t
   file-name-shadow-mode: t
   global-font-lock-mode: t
   font-lock-mode: t
   blink-cursor-mode: t
   global-auto-composition-mode: t
   auto-composition-mode: t
   auto-encryption-mode: t
   auto-compression-mode: t
   column-number-mode: t
   line-number-mode: t
   transient-mark-mode: t

--
Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen

   Pete

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Peter Dyballa wrote:

> I have some difficulties with the documentation of cal-tex-preamble- 
> extra. Its doc-string contains
>
>    For example, to include extra packages:
>    "\\usepackage{foo}\n\\usepackage{bar}\n".
>
> but when I use \\ and \n in the customisation interface these appear  
> unchanged in the calendar.tex buffer.

The above is what you need to use if you _don't_ use customize.
It seems that customize tries to be helpful and does extra quoting of
values you insert. So in the customize input field, you just type:

\usepackage{foo}C-q C-j
\usepackage{bar}

That results in the value being set to what it says in the doc-string.

I can add a comment along these lines, but it's a general customize
feature.


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Peter Dyballa wrote:

> I have some difficulties with the documentation of cal-tex-preamble- 
> extra. Its doc-string contains
>
>    For example, to include extra packages:
>    "\\usepackage{foo}\n\\usepackage{bar}\n".
>
> but when I use \\ and \n in the customisation interface these appear  
> unchanged in the calendar.tex buffer.

The above is what you need to use if you _don't_ use customize.
It seems that customize tries to be helpful and does extra quoting of
values you insert. So in the customize input field, you just type:

\usepackage{foo}C-q C-j
\usepackage{bar}

That results in the value being set to what it says in the doc-string.

I can add a comment along these lines, but it's a general customize
feature.


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Peter Dyballa wrote:

> I have some difficulties with the documentation of cal-tex-preamble- 
> extra. Its doc-string contains
>
>    For example, to include extra packages:
>    "\\usepackage{foo}\n\\usepackage{bar}\n".
>
> but when I use \\ and \n in the customisation interface these appear  
> unchanged in the calendar.tex buffer.

The above is what you need to use if you _don't_ use customize.
It seems that customize tries to be helpful and does extra quoting of
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\usepackage{foo}C-q C-j
\usepackage{bar}

That results in the value being set to what it says in the doc-string.

I can add a comment along these lines, but it's a general customize
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Am 14.03.2009 um 00:10 schrieb Glenn Morris:

> That results in the value being set to what it says in the doc-string.


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