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This is a feature request more than a bug: I would really like to see
the ability to run the emacs server daemon ("emacs --daemon") in the
foreground. This would be very useful. I would like to be able to
start/control this daemon with a service supervisor (i.e. runit [0]).
This would allow me to easily start the daemon on system start up, and
have access to the daemon from all xsessions and virtual terminals.
I would also be prefer to be able to specify daemon parameters as
well, such as the location of the socket file.
I find the new server to be incredibly useful. It is a really great
new feature. I would just like to see these small changes so that I
can really turn my editor into the server it needs to be.
Thanks for all the great work, and let me know if I can provide any
additional information.
[0] http://smarden.org/runit/
In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12)
of 2009-02-28 on elegiac, modified by Debian
(emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090228-1)
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000
configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.91/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.0.91/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
server-mode: t
iswitchb-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
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auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
x e c SPC m p d p r o x y C-x b RET C-x b RET ESC [
B ESC [ B RET ESC O a ESC [ B C-k C-k C-x C-s C-y ESC
[ B ESC [ B C-x C-s C-x b RET e x e c SPC 2 > & 1 C-x
C-s ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B C-x C-s C-x k RET C-x C-s
C-x C-f ESC [ A ESC b C-k l o TAB r u TAB RET C-x k
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DEL DEL c o n f i g RET s s i z e DEL DEL DEL DEL 1
0 0 0 0 0 0 RET n n u m DEL DEL DEL 3 DEL 2 ESC [ B
ESC [ B RET C-x C-s C-x C-c C-g C-x k RET ESC [ B ESC
[ B ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ~ / b i
n / C-x C-s C-x C-c ESC [ B ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C
ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ B C-d / h o m e / j r o l l i
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ESC [ A ESC [ B RET ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ C ESC [ C
ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C c h p s t SPC e n v SPC C-x
C-s ESC b - e SPC C-x C-s C-x C-s C-x C-s C-x C-s C-x
k RET ESC x r e p o TAB r TAB RET
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Setting up indent for shell type sh
setting up indent stuff
Indentation variables are now local.
Indentation setup for shell type sh
Saving file /home/jrollins/.service/mpdproxy/run...
Wrote /home/jrollins/.service/mpdproxy/run
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Jameson Rollins <jrollins@HIDDEN> writes:
> This is a feature request more than a bug: I would really like to see
> the ability to run the emacs server daemon ("emacs --daemon") in the
> foreground. This would be very useful. I would like to be able to
> start/control this daemon with a service supervisor (i.e. runit [0]).
> This would allow me to easily start the daemon on system start up, and
> have access to the daemon from all xsessions and virtual terminals.
>
> I would also be prefer to be able to specify daemon parameters as
> well, such as the location of the socket file.
--daemon is a switch for running Emacs in the background. If you don't
want Emacs running in the background, you don't have to do anything in
particular.
And setting the server socket location can be done easily from an .el
file or with --eval. So I don't really think there's anything that
needs to be done here. Please reopen the bug report if you disagree.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Jameson Rollins <jrollins@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> This is a feature request more than a bug: I would really like to see
>> the ability to run the emacs server daemon ("emacs --daemon") in the
>> foreground. This would be very useful. I would like to be able to
>> start/control this daemon with a service supervisor (i.e. runit [0]).
>> This would allow me to easily start the daemon on system start up, and
>> have access to the daemon from all xsessions and virtual terminals.
>
> --daemon is a switch for running Emacs in the background. If you don't
> want Emacs running in the background, you don't have to do anything in
> particular.
--daemon _should_ be a switch for running a "headless" Emacs.
The fact that it forks and runs in the background is not an essential
condition, and the justification for not doing so is provided in the
report. See eg "new-style daemons" on
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/daemon.html
I guess that systemd type = forking should be able to handle current
Emacs, but the above reference says that "new-style" daemons are
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PS there's more explanation in the merged bug 4944, so I reopened this.
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On Mon, Feb 29 2016, Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>
>> Jameson Rollins <jrollins@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> This is a feature request more than a bug: I would really like to see
>>> the ability to run the emacs server daemon ("emacs --daemon") in the
>>> foreground. This would be very useful. I would like to be able to
>>> start/control this daemon with a service supervisor (i.e. runit [0]).
>>> This would allow me to easily start the daemon on system start up, and
>>> have access to the daemon from all xsessions and virtual terminals.
>>
>> --daemon is a switch for running Emacs in the background. If you don't
>> want Emacs running in the background, you don't have to do anything in
>> particular.
>
> --daemon _should_ be a switch for running a "headless" Emacs.
> The fact that it forks and runs in the background is not an essential
> condition, and the justification for not doing so is provided in the
> report. See eg "new-style daemons" on
> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/daemon.html
>
> I guess that systemd type = forking should be able to handle current
> Emacs, but the above reference says that "new-style" daemons are
> preferred.
Glenn, than you very much for responding to this and reopening the bug
(I was going to reopen as well). The issue is as you describe. There
should at least be a way to operate the emacs server such that it
does not fork, but just runs in a "headless" mode, with logs to stderr.
This is the "new-style" that you're referring to, that is how all modern
init systems handle daemons.
Thanks for the consideration.
jamie.
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This is a feature request more than a bug: I would really like to see
the ability to run the emacs server daemon ("emacs --daemon") in the
foreground. This would be very useful. I would like to be able to
start/control this daemon with a service supervisor (i.e. runit [0]).
This would allow me to easily start the daemon on system start up, and
have access to the daemon from all xsessions and virtual terminals.
I would also be prefer to be able to specify daemon parameters as
well, such as the location of the socket file.
I find the new server to be incredibly useful. It is a really great
new feature. I would just like to see these small changes so that I
can really turn my editor into the server it needs to be.
Thanks for all the great work, and let me know if I can provide any
additional information.
[0] http://smarden.org/runit/
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This is a feature request more than a bug: I would really like to see
the ability to run the emacs server daemon ("emacs --daemon") in the
foreground. This would be very useful. I would like to be able to
start/control this daemon with a service supervisor (i.e. runit [0]).
This would allow me to easily start the daemon on system start up, and
have access to the daemon from all xsessions and virtual terminals.
I would also be prefer to be able to specify daemon parameters as
well, such as the location of the socket file.
I find the new server to be incredibly useful. It is a really great
new feature. I would just like to see these small changes so that I
can really turn my editor into the server it needs to be.
Thanks for all the great work, and let me know if I can provide any
additional information.
[0] http://smarden.org/runit/
In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12)
of 2009-02-28 on elegiac, modified by Debian
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Please write in English if possible=2C because the Emacs maintainersusually=
do not have translators to read other languages for them.
Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@HIDDEN mailing lis=
t.
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bugand the precise sympt=
oms of the bug. If you can=2C givea recipe starting from `emacs -Q':
This is a feature request to add the facility to start an emacs serverusing=
a command-line option that runs as a foreground process insteadof forking =
a daemon and exiting.
Motivation:
Forking a daemon then exiting the main process is incompatible withsystems =
that manage processes as services=2C such as launchd on OS X=2Ctherefore it=
is not possible to create an effective launchd serviceusing emacs in daemo=
n mode.
Possible Solution:
For review I have included a patch that adds a --server command lineoption =
that does what the --daemon option does=2C except it runs theserver in the =
foreground process rather than forking a daemon andexiting.
Please note that I am new to emacs and nix based operating systems andin th=
e short time I have had to spend on this was unable to add a SIGINThandler =
to gracefully shutdown the emacs server=2C not that it mattersto launchd si=
nce it should send SIGTERM=2C but a solution would be nice.
There appear to be issues on OS X with creating a new frame using the -c op=
tionto emacsclient as emacs crashes (so far during garbage collection) when=
doing this=2C however I am still learning the dev tools available to me on =
thisplatform and it will be a while before I could effectively report such =
bugs=2C sothis is just an FYI.=20
As I'm using a debug build so I can investigate further=2C can you confirmt=
hat the build configure options I've used are ok and not likely to becontri=
buting to the instability=2C are there any other options I should beusing?
Please also note that this is the first time I have engaged with an opensou=
rce project so if I'm not doing it right let me know.
If Emacs crashed=2C and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger=2Cpl=
ease include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `=
xbacktrace'.For information about debugging Emacs=2C please read the file/A=
pplications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DEBUG.
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<div>Please write in English if possible=2C because the Emacs maintainers</=
div><div>usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.<=
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t-bug@HIDDEN mailing list.</div><div><br></div><div>Please describe exactl=
y what actions triggered the bug</div><div>and the precise symptoms of the =
bug.  =3BIf you can=2C give</div><div>a recipe starting from `emacs -Q'=
:</div><div><br></div><div>This is a feature request to add the facility to=
start an emacs server</div><div>using a command-line option that runs as a=
foreground process instead</div><div>of forking a daemon and exiting.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Motivation:</div><div><br></div><div>Forking a daemon =
then exiting the main process is incompatible with</div><div>systems that m=
anage processes as services=2C such as launchd on OS X=2C</div><div>therefo=
re it is not possible to create an effective launchd service</div><div>usin=
g emacs in daemon mode.</div><div><br></div><div>Possible Solution:</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>For review I have included a patch that adds a --server c=
ommand line</div><div>option that does what the --daemon option does=2C exc=
ept it runs the</div><div>server in the foreground process rather than fork=
ing a daemon and</div><div>exiting.</div><div><br></div><div>Please note th=
at I am new to emacs and nix based operating systems and</div><div>in the s=
hort time I have had to spend on this was unable to add a SIGINT</div><div>=
handler to gracefully shutdown the emacs server=2C not that it matters</div=
><div>to launchd since it should send SIGTERM=2C but a solution would be ni=
ce.</div><div><br></div><div>There appear to be issues on OS X with creatin=
g a new frame using the -c option</div><div>to emacsclient as emacs crashes=
(so far during garbage collection) when</div><div>doing this=2C =3Bhow=
ever I am still =3Blearning the dev tools available to me on this</div>=
<div>platform and it will be a =3Bwhile before I could effectively repo=
rt such bugs=2C so</div><div>this is just an FYI. =3B</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>As I'm using a debug build so I can investigate further=2C can you =
confirm</div><div>that the build configure options I've used are ok and not=
likely to be</div><div>contributing to the instability=2C are there any ot=
her options I should be</div><div>using?</div><div><br></div><div>Please al=
so note that this is the first time I have engaged with an open</div><div>s=
ource project so if I'm not doing it right let me know.</div><div><br></div=
><div>If Emacs crashed=2C and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugge=
r=2C</div><div>please include the output from the following gdb commands:</=
div><div> =3B =3B  =3B`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.</div><div>For=
information about debugging Emacs=2C please read the file</div><div>/Appli=
cations/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DEBUG.</div><div><br></div><div><b=
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Please write in English if possible=2C because the Emacs maintainersusually=
do not have translators to read other languages for them.
Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@HIDDEN mailing lis=
t.
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bugand the precise sympt=
oms of the bug. If you can=2C givea recipe starting from `emacs -Q':
This is a feature request to add the facility to start an emacs serverusing=
a command-line option that runs as a foreground process insteadof forking =
a daemon and exiting.
Motivation:
Forking a daemon then exiting the main process is incompatible withsystems =
that manage processes as services=2C such as launchd on OS X=2Ctherefore it=
is not possible to create an effective launchd serviceusing emacs in daemo=
n mode.
Possible Solution:
For review I have included a patch that adds a --server command lineoption =
that does what the --daemon option does=2C except it runs theserver in the =
foreground process rather than forking a daemon andexiting.
Please note that I am new to emacs and nix based operating systems andin th=
e short time I have had to spend on this was unable to add a SIGINThandler =
to gracefully shutdown the emacs server=2C not that it mattersto launchd si=
nce it should send SIGTERM=2C but a solution would be nice.
There appear to be issues on OS X with creating a new frame using the -c op=
tionto emacsclient as emacs crashes (so far during garbage collection) when=
doing this=2C however I am still learning the dev tools available to me on =
thisplatform and it will be a while before I could effectively report such =
bugs=2C sothis is just an FYI.=20
As I'm using a debug build so I can investigate further=2C can you confirmt=
hat the build configure options I've used are ok and not likely to becontri=
buting to the instability=2C are there any other options I should beusing?
Please also note that this is the first time I have engaged with an opensou=
rce project so if I'm not doing it right let me know.
If Emacs crashed=2C and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger=2Cpl=
ease include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `=
xbacktrace'.For information about debugging Emacs=2C please read the file/A=
pplications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DEBUG.
In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.2.0=2C NS apple-appkit-1038.2=
5) of 2009-11-17 on maverick.homeWindowing system distributor `Apple'=2C ve=
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UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default=
enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Text
Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode=
: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t =
font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: =
t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t =
transient-mark-mode: t
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bug.  =3BIf you can=2C give</div><div>a recipe starting from `emacs -Q'=
:</div><div><br></div><div>This is a feature request to add the facility to=
start an emacs server</div><div>using a command-line option that runs as a=
foreground process instead</div><div>of forking a daemon and exiting.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Motivation:</div><div><br></div><div>Forking a daemon =
then exiting the main process is incompatible with</div><div>systems that m=
anage processes as services=2C such as launchd on OS X=2C</div><div>therefo=
re it is not possible to create an effective launchd service</div><div>usin=
g emacs in daemon mode.</div><div><br></div><div>Possible Solution:</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>For review I have included a patch that adds a --server c=
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ept it runs the</div><div>server in the foreground process rather than fork=
ing a daemon and</div><div>exiting.</div><div><br></div><div>Please note th=
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hort time I have had to spend on this was unable to add a SIGINT</div><div>=
handler to gracefully shutdown the emacs server=2C not that it matters</div=
><div>to launchd since it should send SIGTERM=2C but a solution would be ni=
ce.</div><div><br></div><div>There appear to be issues on OS X with creatin=
g a new frame using the -c option</div><div>to emacsclient as emacs crashes=
(so far during garbage collection) when</div><div>doing this=2C =3Bhow=
ever I am still =3Blearning the dev tools available to me on this</div>=
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rt such bugs=2C so</div><div>this is just an FYI. =3B</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>As I'm using a debug build so I can investigate further=2C can you =
confirm</div><div>that the build configure options I've used are ok and not=
likely to be</div><div>contributing to the instability=2C are there any ot=
her options I should be</div><div>using?</div><div><br></div><div>Please al=
so note that this is the first time I have engaged with an open</div><div>s=
ource project so if I'm not doing it right let me know.</div><div><br></div=
><div>If Emacs crashed=2C and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugge=
r=2C</div><div>please include the output from the following gdb commands:</=
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> Version: 26.1
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> Rev 36b99556 added --new-daemon which runs in the foreground.
> Sorry for the huge delay.
Thanks.
I wonder if the options should better be called --daemon-bg/fg or
maybe --daemon=bg/fg. That might better explain the nature of the
distinction than "new" and "old".
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> Rev 36b99556 added --new-daemon which runs in the foreground.
> Sorry for the huge delay.
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