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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > There should be a command/function to recompile an installed package, > and maybe another to do the same for all packages, yes. OK; I've now added two commands for that to Emacs 29. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27253 Cc: "N. Jackson" <nljlistbox2@HIDDEN>, 27253 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > There should be a command/function to recompile an installed package, > and maybe another to do the same for all packages, yes. OK; I've now added two commands for that to Emacs 29. > I don't think the OP's situation would be best served by recompiling > everything, because usually recompilation is only needed for those few > packages that were compiled a *long* time ago ( where I'd expect most > packages have probably been recompiled since then because of > package updates). > > But there's definitely room for improvement along the path of: > detecting the presence of a file that's too old, figuring out which > package needs to be recompiled, and then recompiling it. I'm not sure there's any way of doing that that would be reliable enough not to be annoying? That is, we can determine if an .elc file is readable, but we can't really detect if it's using a macro that has changed so much that the .elc file should be rebuilt... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 27253) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2022 17:18:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 15 13:18:41 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39743 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1o1WfB-0001qC-36 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:41 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:60440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1o1Wf8-0001pv-3f for 27253 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:40 -0400 Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0EB1180784; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9504C8019D; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1655313510; bh=7h1kDLS2eQoT4uVstKwo4OLGXHaS+1n83S/QUFNzSL4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZEiy87cMOM1D8Dk3HIq7Fz441lZYzPQvgptgpi5kZ7DVOK3T8jtAS57ALUX4mSLrt WfusMeag6IoYv4h2+Heu1zzuoieA5Qmxi0HChDdStLDd5rYjw1sAYNjbmeUPIgmHbQ Y28HpiONxDZM0eHKopI7yskeuiaerdewCkpWtSkJ/wyjctlJr3E95moQbbZt9NmfRq VQu8z4rnknHgo9ZHfD8na1ns+2EzxMAswVDiEPZ0H4HxD4OoymzVuMDJR8sPPYp1D0 4khjFKTBait+50AM7LmHl4B7HoBXDkn43V0FOk/ynhSxmi536usY+DPnVMxghK8WtX ntIdPZP1uXKaw== Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FDE11203A5; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#27253: 25.2; Suggestion: On startup after Emacs version change, package should offer to correct invalid bytecode Message-ID: <jwvk09hvoiq.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <87shjeo42b.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pmkcht9m.fsf@HIDDEN> <87letxg9li.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87letxg9li.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 15 Jun 2022 18:44:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL 0.200 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27253 Cc: "N. Jackson" <nljlistbox2@HIDDEN>, 27253 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-06-15 18:44:25] wrote: > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: >> There should perhaps be a command to recompile all installed packages? >> Or does that exist somewhere? (I don't see any such command...) > Perhaps Stefan knows; added to the CCs. There should be a command/function to recompile an installed package, and maybe another to do the same for all packages, yes. I don't think the OP's situation would be best served by recompiling everything, because usually recompilation is only needed for those few packages that were compiled a *long* time ago ( where I'd expect most packages have probably been recompiled since then because of package updates). But there's definitely room for improvement along the path of: detecting the presence of a file that's too old, figuring out which package needs to be recompiled, and then recompiling it. Stefan
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Jackson) To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 25.2; Suggestion: On startup after Emacs version change, package should offer to correct invalid bytecode Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 11:19:08 -0400 Message-ID: <87shjeo42b.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) It would be nice on Emacs startup, if Package could detect incompatible byte code in packages compiled with a different version of Emacs, and offer to recompile them. What happens now in this situation is that on startup a message is displayed complaining of invalid byte code in the user's init file which is slightly confusing, and not very helpful. 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