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On Thu, Jul 27 2017, Dani Moncayo wrote:
>>> I'd prefer this (those) percentage(s) to be based on the number of
>>> _lines_ instead
>>
>> What do you want to be displayed in that case when line numbers are
>> not counted and displayed as "???" ? Do you want Emacs to count lines
>> even though the limits which control that are exceeded?
>
> In cases where line numbers are not counted (I didn't know about such
> cases, BTW), I guess Emacs could display "??" as the percentage,
> meaning that the value is unknown at that moment.
>
>> Also note that for your feature to be implemented, Emacs needs to
>> count lines in the entire buffer each time the buffer is changed, so I
>> expect this feature to slow down redisplay.
>
> Maybe this computation could be optimized somehow. In any case, if
> someone implements it and the slow down is observable, it could be
> advertised in the manual and/or the docstring of the variable which
> enables this feature.
As another example, I also wrote something to do this in my mode
line:
(:eval
(let ((lines (float (+ (count-lines (point-min)
(point-max))
1))))
(concat
;% of lines above upper edge of window
(number-to-string (floor
(* (/ (- (line-number-at-pos
(window-start))
1)
lines)
100)))
" "
;% of lines above lower edge of window
(number-to-string (ceiling
(* (/ (line-number-at-pos
(window-end))
lines)
100))))))
With all the calls to count-lines the performance was pretty
rough though, especially near the end of long buffers.
I ended up just learning to live with line-based length. I didn't
notice much difference anyway, unless the line lengths varied a
lot, eg loads of trailing newlines.
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Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@HIDDEN> writes:
>>> I'd prefer this (those) percentage(s) to be based on the
>>> number of
>>> _lines_ instead
>>
>> What do you want to be displayed in that case when line numbers
>> are
>> not counted and displayed as "???" ? Do you want Emacs to
>> count lines
>> even though the limits which control that are exceeded?
>
> In cases where line numbers are not counted (I didn't know about
> such
> cases, BTW), I guess Emacs could display "??" as the percentage,
> meaning that the value is unknown at that moment.
>
>> Also note that for your feature to be implemented, Emacs needs
>> to
>> count lines in the entire buffer each time the buffer is
>> changed, so I
>> expect this feature to slow down redisplay.
>
> Maybe this computation could be optimized somehow. In any case,
> if
> someone implements it and the slow down is observable, it could
> be
> advertised in the manual and/or the docstring of the variable
> which
> enables this feature.
As a data point, i have this as part of my `mode-line-format`
setup:
'(:eval
(let ((buffer-line-count (count-lines (point-min)
(point-max))))
(number-to-string
(round
(* 100 (/
(float (count-lines 1 (point)))
(if (equal 0 buffer-line-count)
1
buffer-line-count)))))))
"%%"
which gives me at least a rough percentage (i.e. 'good enough' for
my
needs), and i've not noticed any slowdown as a result.
Alexis.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#27847; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 27847) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2017 20:45:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 27 16:45:07 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58976 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1daped-0005Ze-7o for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:45:07 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48]:38197) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <dmoncayo@HIDDEN>) id 1dapeb-0005Yt-Jy for 27847 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:45:05 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f48.google.com with SMTP id y15so84533666lfd.5 for <27847 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UkAjblqNl3BsjgkFUOIYCByEIbKdS1vPkD9CloG6XWE=; b=kJZGHVqJnvsrMrl1ipPYOK4e9W5HGKh44HnF4Yhh3k5Jj4vqsOkOF0j1z8/REmQYUl a0xyMIb0T4inUiA41AC99068zW0EXMjfay4krklrVy0BT/WOeuGAC8yCC44CG3KF6Pxz bFMcXV8FhArwk4rN4BepceAa3e/W3YELp4YfxkFM1slIX4zm5sbwx3VmGbwNqglGFfNr Uv21L+cw4iwLnSywaXGO9AaUxIPsclAjNy/zCf9/8Flu+53MUIMdxFR6uqiDwl8s6nxr 3g4cPkeWO5joIiF7e0in+dsv3+Qrxb997VU2muZWcSGRibGpBsmhxhi8MTIODAlTxZg7 8yDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UkAjblqNl3BsjgkFUOIYCByEIbKdS1vPkD9CloG6XWE=; b=Ky0/gjbwHfl12g8frrklxmfVSkLJ+5N+9YI9xdZ1B8kRHbwLQD725CFVv3p+N0wx4E Q1yvjwUN8iUWvmtiuqs9Fn9gMD9KkYIOWhY6BJx3CaiPDVeFhr9kzEkWbi96Trf2+3Lq wk+yuhz+akNsihS6V2kcSpAkinOkbuGh/ASqamrz8VNowhTKZDVElEg2qsunRqBO4NdB JZ0GOBVWLVWibB9pSiJO6X+GVKgP6B1tLAirwUIpGOkBZKvlm8FpiUViNkRtuomPbQNp SuxaxnsA1Bf7KaUKrN8c2u5X5u+iot5NwW3gB43VfVzTWAgMRvQpQw85zWnxo/W9X4i0 gJ1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112CD0mYhKUkJNakEFSdZfnB2amirs4eaDAErscbItkgvq51jg7n g/WsO1OZtjxZAn9PUZ4PH+f2Xai/3Q== X-Received: by 10.25.20.21 with SMTP id k21mr1982905lfi.89.1501188299568; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:44:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.76.85 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:44:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83shhh4wsk.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAH8Pv0guw1DHJsfbz34F0Akwjhc_gcBTOXj-SQ7uM0H62Rk_Cw@HIDDEN> <83shhh4wsk.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 22:44:58 +0200 Message-ID: <CAH8Pv0iKfisjOjzvUKETX72Qf1vU75WKZTD6M2UB6Dv8FjFimw@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#27847: 26.0.50; mode-line-percent-position: line-based instead of char-based (optionally) To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27847 Cc: 27847 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) >> I'd prefer this (those) percentage(s) to be based on the number of >> _lines_ instead > > What do you want to be displayed in that case when line numbers are > not counted and displayed as "???" ? Do you want Emacs to count lines > even though the limits which control that are exceeded? In cases where line numbers are not counted (I didn't know about such cases, BTW), I guess Emacs could display "??" as the percentage, meaning that the value is unknown at that moment. > Also note that for your feature to be implemented, Emacs needs to > count lines in the entire buffer each time the buffer is changed, so I > expect this feature to slow down redisplay. Maybe this computation could be optimized somehow. In any case, if someone implements it and the slow down is observable, it could be advertised in the manual and/or the docstring of the variable which enables this feature. -- Dani Moncayo
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#27847; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 27847) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2017 18:00:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 27 14:00:49 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1dan5c-0001pv-My for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:00:48 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:46662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1dan5a-0001pi-Vi for 27847 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:00:47 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v6RI0bkD013516 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 27 Jul 2017 18:00:37 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v6RI0bMn017610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 27 Jul 2017 18:00:37 GMT Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v6RI0aCE001216; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 18:00:36 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <8ee6307c-3c9f-48a3-8260-06a47e530762@default> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@HIDDEN>, 27847 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#27847: 26.0.50; mode-line-percent-position: line-based instead of char-based (optionally) References: <CAH8Pv0guw1DHJsfbz34F0Akwjhc_gcBTOXj-SQ7uM0H62Rk_Cw@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAH8Pv0guw1DHJsfbz34F0Akwjhc_gcBTOXj-SQ7uM0H62Rk_Cw@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6770.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27847 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) > AFAIK, the percentage(s) shown in the modeline by the variable > "mode-line-percent-position" are all character-based, i.e., the > percentage(s) is (are) computed based on the number of _characters_ > before a certain visible character (first visible, last visible, first > in middle line, ...) >=20 > I'd prefer this (those) percentage(s) to be based on the number of > _lines_ instead, because that would give me the information I really > want to see: the relative _vertical_ position of the window/viewport > wrt the whole buffer (i.e., the kind of information that a graphical > vertical scrollbar provides visually). >=20 > So I'd like I could set some variable for switching to this way of > computing the modeline percentage(s). I think that many users would > like it. FYI, you can use library `modeline-posn.el' to get what you want. In this case you would define a custom behavior (it is not one of the predefined choices), but that is easy to do. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/modeline-posn.el
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Severity: wishlist Hi, AFAIK, the percentage(s) shown in the modeline by the variable "mode-line-percent-position" are all character-based, i.e., the percentage(s) is (are) computed based on the number of _characters_ before a certain visible character (first visible, last visible, first in middle line, ...) I'd prefer this (those) percentage(s) to be based on the number of _lines_ instead, because that would give me the information I really want to see: the relative _vertical_ position of the window/viewport wrt the whole buffer (i.e., the kind of information that a graphical vertical scrollbar provides visually). So I'd like I could set some variable for switching to this way of computing the modeline percentage(s). I think that many users would like it. TIA. -- Dani Moncayo In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-unknown-cygwin) of 2017-07-24 built on ZVDES404 Repository revision: 6dc5d45c542a6f9cfbcf3e37d597c9e0efb3070d Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.3.9600 Configured using: 'configure --with-mailutils --with-w32' Configured features: SOUND ACL GNUTLS ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: C.ISO-8859-1 locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix
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