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26.0.60; [Emacs manual] Acknowledgements section omits some contributors

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson); dated Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:26:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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> From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
> Cc: 28585 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 12:14:51 -0400
> 
> > Would you like to propose changes to ack.texi as well, to reflect the
> > main contributions of those 7 people?
> 
> I don't think I know enough about what people have worked on to do
> that.
> 
> I only know Nicolas has been managing releases lately and also is
> maintaining the Emacs web site after designing and implementing a
> modern look for it and I know Noam has fixed a lot of bugs over
> the last while and triaged many more.
> 
> So I'm afraid I don't think I can help here.

Fair enough.  I guess this means we should encourage people mentioned
in Acknowledgements to add the description of their contributions to
ack.texi, if they feel like it.




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From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#28585: 26.0.60;
 [Emacs manual] Acknowledgements section omits some contributors
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Thanks Eli,

At 15:33 +0300 on Saturday 2017-09-30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> Thanks. I feel uneasy about removing people from that list, so I
> just added the ones you pointed out.

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that anyone should be removed from
the existing list; that would be problematic indeed and not in any
way productive.

> Would you like to propose changes to ack.texi as well, to reflect the
> main contributions of those 7 people?

I don't think I know enough about what people have worked on to do
that.

I only know Nicolas has been managing releases lately and also is
maintaining the Emacs web site after designing and implementing a
modern look for it and I know Noam has fixed a lot of bugs over
the last while and triaged many more.

So I'm afraid I don't think I can help here.

N.





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> From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:25:31 -0400
> 
> This suggestion is about the [@iftex] Acknowlegements Section near
> the beginning of the "print" manual, not about the [@ifnottex]
> Acknowlegements Section (ack.texi) at the end of the Info manual.
> 
> There are 443 contributors acknowledged in this section. I realise
> the section must be hard to keep up to date (and indeed there is a
> comment in it about possibly dropping it and IIUC replacing it
> with a reference to AUTHORS) but I suggest that anyone who is the
> author of more than 100 commits should be included. In the current
> log for the emacs-26 branch (which goes back to about 1985) there
> are only about 90 such individuals.
> 
> While I realise there are many problems with using commit count as
> a measure of contribution, and also that the log is not especially
> reliable (especially without some normalization), I don't think it
> would be too controversial to say that all of these 90-odd people
> should be acknowledged as a contributor.
> 
> The following people all have more than 100 commits but are omitted:
> 
>   Ken Brown
>   Tino Calancha
>   Artur Malabarba
>   Mark Oteiza
>   Nicolas Petton
>   Noam Postavsky
>   Philipp Stephani
> 
> I suggest they be added (unless they have deliberately been
> omitted because they're included under a different name or have
> requested they be omitted or whatever).

Thanks.  I feel uneasy about removing people from that list, so I just
added the ones you pointed out.

> (Note: Rather than re-fill the lines, I made the minimum
> changes. This makes some lines rather long but some of the existing
> lines are longer, and since this section is justified by TeX anyway,
> I'm guessing this is not a problem?)

Not a problem, correct.

Would you like to propose changes to ack.texi as well, to reflect the
main contributions of those 7 people?




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At 16:33 -0400 on Sunday 2017-09-24, N. Jackson wrote:
>
> At 16:25 -0400 on Sunday 2017-09-24, N. Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Add omitted contributors to Acknowledgements in Emacs (print) manual
>>
>> * doc/emacs/emacs.texi (Acknowledgments): Update with names of all
>>   previously omitted contributors who have made at least 100
>>   commits.
>
> s/(Acknowledgments)/(Acknowledgements)/

Gah!!! Thoroughly muddling up my U.S. English with my English English!

The section is entitled "Acknkowledgments" and the above should have
read:

  Add omitted contributors to Acknowledgments in Emacs (print) manual

  * doc/emacs/emacs.texi (Acknowledgments): Update with names of all
    previously omitted contributors who have made at least 100
    commits.

Sorry.

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At 16:25 -0400 on Sunday 2017-09-24, N. Jackson wrote:
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> Add omitted contributors to Acknowledgements in Emacs (print) manual
>
> * doc/emacs/emacs.texi (Acknowledgments): Update with names of all
>   previously omitted contributors who have made at least 100
>   commits.

s/(Acknowledgments)/(Acknowledgements)/

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This suggestion is about the [@iftex] Acknowlegements Section near
the beginning of the "print" manual, not about the [@ifnottex]
Acknowlegements Section (ack.texi) at the end of the Info manual.

There are 443 contributors acknowledged in this section. I realise
the section must be hard to keep up to date (and indeed there is a
comment in it about possibly dropping it and IIUC replacing it
with a reference to AUTHORS) but I suggest that anyone who is the
author of more than 100 commits should be included. In the current
log for the emacs-26 branch (which goes back to about 1985) there
are only about 90 such individuals.

While I realise there are many problems with using commit count as
a measure of contribution, and also that the log is not especially
reliable (especially without some normalization), I don't think it
would be too controversial to say that all of these 90-odd people
should be acknowledged as a contributor.

The following people all have more than 100 commits but are omitted:

  Ken Brown
  Tino Calancha
  Artur Malabarba
  Mark Oteiza
  Nicolas Petton
  Noam Postavsky
  Philipp Stephani

I suggest they be added (unless they have deliberately been
omitted because they're included under a different name or have
requested they be omitted or whatever).

Below is an attempt at a patch to do this. (Note: Rather than
re-fill the lines, I made the minimum changes. This makes some
lines rather long but some of the existing lines are longer, and
since this section is justified by TeX anyway, I'm guessing this
is not a problem?)

N.


Add omitted contributors to Acknowledgements in Emacs (print) manual

* doc/emacs/emacs.texi (Acknowledgments): Update with names of all
  previously omitted contributors who have made at least 100
  commits.


--=-=-=
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Content-Disposition: inline; filename=add-contributors.diff
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Description: Update Acknowledgements in Emacs (print) manual with
 some omitted contributers

diff --git a/doc/emacs/emacs.texi b/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
index 1b9a8b3..ef70d58 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
@@ -1401,8 +1401,8 @@ Acknowledgments
 Berry, Anna M. Bigatti, Ray Blaak, Martin Blais, Jim Blandy, Johan
 Bockg=C3=A5rd, Jan B=C3=B6cker, Joel Boehland, Lennart Borgman, Per Bothne=
r,
 Terrence Brannon, Frank Bresz, Peter Breton, Emmanuel Briot, Kevin
-Broadey, Vincent Broman, Michael Brouwer, David M. Brown, Stefan Bruda,
-Georges Brun-Cottan, Joe Buehler, Scott Byer, W=C5=82odek Bzyl,
+Broadey, Vincent Broman, Michael Brouwer, David M. Brown, Ken Brown, Stefa=
n Bruda,
+Georges Brun-Cottan, Joe Buehler, Scott Byer, W=C5=82odek Bzyl, Tino Calan=
cha,
 Bill Carpenter, Per Cederqvist, Hans Chalupsky, Chris Chase, Bob
 Chassell, Andrew Choi, Chong Yidong, Sacha Chua, Stewart Clamen, James
 Clark, Mike Clarkson, Glynn Clements, Andrew Cohen, Daniel Colascione,
@@ -1444,7 +1444,7 @@ Acknowledgments
 Juri Linkov, Francis Litterio, Sergey Litvinov, Leo Liu, Emilio C. Lopes,
 Martin Lorentzon, Dave Love, Eric Ludlam, K=C3=A1roly L=C5=91rentey, Sascha
 L=C3=BCdecke, Greg McGary, Roland McGrath, Michael McNamara, Alan Mackenzi=
e,
-Christopher J. Madsen, Neil M. Mager, Ken Manheimer, Bill Mann,
+Christopher J. Madsen, Neil M. Mager, Artur Malabarba, Ken Manheimer, Bill=
 Mann,
 Brian Marick, Simon Marshall, Bengt Martensson, Charlie Martin,
 Yukihiro Matsumoto, Tomohiro Matsuyama, David Maus, Thomas May, Will Menga=
rini, David
 Megginson, Stefan Merten, Ben A. Mesander, Wayne Mesard, Brad
@@ -1455,11 +1455,11 @@ Acknowledgments
 Jurgen Nickelsen, Dan Nicolaescu, Hrvoje Nik=C5=A1i=C4=87, Jeff Norden,
 Andrew Norman, Theresa O'Connor, Kentaro Ohkouchi, Christian Ohler,
 Kenichi Okada, Alexandre Oliva, Bob Olson, Michael Olson, Takaaki Ota,
-Pieter E. J. Pareit, Ross Patterson, David Pearson, Juan Pechiar,
+Mark Oteiza, Pieter E. J. Pareit, Ross Patterson, David Pearson, Juan Pech=
iar,
 Jeff Peck, Damon Anton Permezel, Tom Perrine, William M. Perry, Per
-Persson, Jens Petersen, Daniel Pfeiffer, Justus Piater, Richard L.
+Persson, Jens Petersen, Nicolas Petton, Daniel Pfeiffer, Justus Piater, Ri=
chard L.
 Pieri, Fred Pierresteguy, Fran=C3=A7ois Pinard, Daniel Pittman, Christian
-Plaunt, Alexander Pohoyda, David Ponce, Francesco A. Potort=C3=AC,
+Plaunt, Alexander Pohoyda, David Ponce, Noam Postavsky, Francesco A. Potor=
t=C3=AC,
 Michael D. Prange, Mukesh Prasad, Ken Raeburn, Marko Rahamaa, Ashwin
 Ram, Eric S. Raymond, Paul Reilly, Edward M. Reingold, David
 Reitter, Alex Rezinsky, Rob Riepel, Lara Rios, Adrian Robert, Nick
@@ -1476,7 +1476,7 @@ Acknowledgments
 =C5=A0imko, Espen Skoglund, Rick Sladkey, Lynn Slater, Chris Smith,
 David Smith, Paul D. Smith, Wilson Snyder, William Sommerfeld, Simon
 South, Andre Spiegel, Michael Staats, Thomas Steffen, Ulf Stegemann,
-Reiner Steib, Sam Steingold, Ake Stenhoff, Peter Stephenson, Ken
+Reiner Steib, Sam Steingold, Ake Stenhoff, Philipp Stephani, Peter Stephen=
son, Ken
 Stevens, Andy Stewart, Jonathan Stigelman, Martin Stjernholm, Kim F.
 Storm, Steve Strassmann, Christopher Suckling, Olaf Sylvester, Naoto
 Takahashi, Steven Tamm, Jan Tatarik, Luc Teirlinck, Jean-Philippe Theberge=
, Jens

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