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26.0.90; Document after-make-frame-functions, focus-in-hook in Startup Summary node

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From: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Rob Davenport <rob.davenport <at> gmail.com>
Subject: 26.0.90; Document after-make-frame-functions, focus-in-hook in
 Startup Summary node
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:30:51 +0000

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X-Debbugs-CC: rob.davenport <at> gmail.com, eliz <at> gnu.org

Hello Eli,

I had a long conversation with you in May 2016[1] about understanding the
best place/hook for graphics related setup (like fonts) in emacs config,
when running emacsclient.

As I later learned in that conversation, neither after-init-hook nor
emacs-startup-hook were the right place for that.
after-make-frame-functions was also not good unless the frame is selected
(which is not the case in emacsclient/daemon). So focus-in-hook turned out
to be the best place were I can check if a certain font was available etc.

I have read through (elisp) Startup Summary, but it does not reference
after-make-frame-functions and its caveat with emacsclient. It also does
not reference focus-in-hook.

I believe having that information in that section will be very valuable to
other users using emacsclient in GUI frame.

Copying Rob on this as he had a similar question he asked me off the list.

[1]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2016-05/msg00148.html


In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23)
 of 2017-10-12
Repository revision: 413978727c9fb1d26b64e81412434064d99ec568
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60900000
System Description: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation release 6.6
(Santiago)

-- 

Kaushal Modi

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Message #8 received at 28801 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
Cc: rob.davenport <at> gmail.com, 28801 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#28801: 26.0.90;
 Document after-make-frame-functions, focus-in-hook in Startup Summary
 node
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:40:48 +0300

> Cc: Rob Davenport <rob.davenport <at> gmail.com>, rob.davenport <at> gmail.com, eliz <at> gnu.org
> From: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:30:51 +0000
> 
> I have read through (elisp) Startup Summary, but it does not reference after-make-frame-functions and its
> caveat with emacsclient. It also does not reference focus-in-hook.
> 
> I believe having that information in that section will be very valuable to other users using emacsclient in GUI
> frame.

These hooks are not related to startup, so I don't see why they should
be described in that section.  They would be out of place there, and
the resulting discoverability will be low.

There is a separate section that describes all of the hooks, and I
usually look there when I need some hook, but don't know which one to
use.

There could be a place for a new section in the Emacs manual regarding
customizations for people who start Emacs as a daemon.  Patches to
that effect are welcome from people who have experience using and
customizing Emacs in that mode.

Message #11 received at 28801 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: rob.davenport <at> gmail.com, 28801 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#28801: 26.0.90; Document after-make-frame-functions,
 focus-in-hook in Startup Summary node
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 22:31:35 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> I have read through (elisp) Startup Summary, but it does not
>> reference after-make-frame-functions and its
>> caveat with emacsclient. It also does not reference focus-in-hook.
>> 
>> I believe having that information in that section will be very
>> valuable to other users using emacsclient in GUI
>> frame.
>
> These hooks are not related to startup, so I don't see why they should
> be described in that section.  They would be out of place there, and
> the resulting discoverability will be low.
>
> There is a separate section that describes all of the hooks, and I
> usually look there when I need some hook, but don't know which one to
> use.

And those hooks are mentioned in that node, so I don't think there's
anything to fix here.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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