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gnus-cloud does not work

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Package: emacs,gnus; Reported by: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN>; dated Sun, 15 Oct 2017 08:39:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#28845: gnus-cloud does not work
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Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> writes:

> To ensure we're testing the same setup, can you try against a gmail IMAP
> server? You should be able to `I' set the cloud host from the Server
> buffer.

I tried downloading from my home computer, but nothing happens, I get
this in *Messages*

nnimap read 0k from imap.gmail.com

and this in *imap log*:

19:42:25 [imap.gmail.com] 81 SELECT "Emacs-Cloud"^M
19:42:25 [imap.gmail.com] 82 SELECT "Emacs-Cloud"^M
19:42:26 [imap.gmail.com] 83 UID FETCH  (UID RFC822.SIZE X-GM-LABELS BODYSTRUCTURE BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS (Subject From Date Message-Id References In-Reply-To Xref To Newsgroups Cc)])^M

But nothing changes in my *Group* buffer, which I assumed it would?

Regards,
Joakim






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Subject: Re: bug#28845: gnus-cloud does not work
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Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> writes:

> OK. I just tested with the latest master build of emacs.git and had no
> issues. So we know it's something different in either code or IMAP
> server support.
>
> To ensure we're testing the same setup, can you try against a gmail IMAP
> server? You should be able to `I' set the cloud host from the Server
> buffer.
>
> Also see if you can test with the latest checkout of master to remove
> the possibility something old is broken.

I think I have a pretty recent version, I pulled master on the 11th.

> OK, let's stick to nil for now to make testing easier and remove that
> extra complexity.

Funnily enough, when I changed to gmail, it still doesn't work with nil,
but it seems to work with 'epg!

When I try with nil I get this in *Messages*:

Leaving cloud data plaintext
Message contains NUL characters.  Delete, continue, abort?  (d, c, a, ?): 
Failed to upload Gnus Cloud data to nnimap+gmail:Emacs-Cloud

and this in *imap log*:

16:21:51 [imap.gmail.com] (inhibited)
16:21:53 [imap.gmail.com] 1039 CAPABILITY^M
16:21:57 [imap.gmail.com] 1040 APPEND "Emacs-Cloud" {22926}^M

When I try with 'epg I get this in *Messages*:

Opening connection to imap.gmail.com via tls...
Opening connection to imap.gmail.com...done
Uploaded Gnus Cloud data successfully to nnimap+gmail:Emacs-Cloud

and this in *imap log*:

16:23:03 [imap.gmail.com] (inhibited)
16:23:07 [imap.gmail.com] 1042 CAPABILITY^M
16:23:09 [imap.gmail.com] 1043 APPEND "Emacs-Cloud" {9544}^M


When I do '~ d' I get this in *Messages*:

nnimap read 0k from imap.gmail.com [2 times]

and this in *imap log*:

16:27:06 [imap.gmail.com] 1044 EXAMINE "Emacs-Cloud"^M
16:27:06 [imap.gmail.com] 1045 UID FETCH 1:* FLAGS^M
16:27:07 [imap.gmail.com] 1046 SELECT "Emacs-Cloud"^M
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So... I think it seems to work with gmail (not sure how I can verify it
actually works... I will try from home tonight) but not with fastmail.
And for me it doesn't work with nil, but 'epg works.


Something which might be of importance is that I created the folder (is
it called that?) 'Emacs-Cloud' manually in fastmail. That was the last
time I tried to debug this. Before I did that I got some other error.

Reagards,
Joakim









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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:49:22 +0100 Joakim Jalap <joakim.jalap@HIDDEN> wrote: 

JJ> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> writes:
JJ> I'm also running with debug-on-error, but that doesn't trigger.
>> 
>> I assume there's nothing useful in *Messages*?

JJ> Unfortunately not.

OK. I just tested with the latest master build of emacs.git and had no
issues. So we know it's something different in either code or IMAP
server support.

To ensure we're testing the same setup, can you try against a gmail IMAP
server? You should be able to `I' set the cloud host from the Server
buffer.

Also see if you can test with the latest checkout of master to remove
the possibility something old is broken.

>> Hmm. I just tried it and had no issues on upload or download. Could you
>> try setting `gnus-cloud-storage-method' to nil to bypass encoding
>> altogether? Then try the other methods, to see if the default 'epg
>> storage method is the issue? If it is, we can focus on the EPG
>> integration. If it's not, we'll keep digging into nnimap itself.

JJ> I tried them all, but the result is the same (except that I'm not asked
JJ> for a password of course).

OK, let's stick to nil for now to make testing easier and remove that
extra complexity.

Thanks
Ted




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Subject: Re: bug#28845: gnus-cloud does not work
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Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> writes:

> JJ> I'm also running with debug-on-error, but that doesn't trigger.
>
> I assume there's nothing useful in *Messages*?

Unfortunately not.

> Hmm. I just tried it and had no issues on upload or download. Could you
> try setting `gnus-cloud-storage-method' to nil to bypass encoding
> altogether? Then try the other methods, to see if the default 'epg
> storage method is the issue? If it is, we can focus on the EPG
> integration. If it's not, we'll keep digging into nnimap itself.

I tried them all, but the result is the same (except that I'm not asked
for a password of course).

Regards,
Joakim




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On Dez 12 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:42:37 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 
>
> AS> On Dez 12 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>> You're right. It sets `gnus-cloud-method' but doesn't toggle. You should remove that
>>> customization and the IMAP group it created, and perhaps that will work
>>> for you.
>
> AS> I don't see any IMAP group that can be removed.
>
> That's great!

Nope.  There is nothing either that makes this working.

Andreas.

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:42:37 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 

AS> On Dez 12 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> You're right. It sets `gnus-cloud-method' but doesn't toggle. You should remove that
>> customization and the IMAP group it created, and perhaps that will work
>> for you.

AS> I don't see any IMAP group that can be removed.

That's great!

Ted




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On Dez 12 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> You're right. It sets `gnus-cloud-method' but doesn't toggle. You should remove that
> customization and the IMAP group it created, and perhaps that will work
> for you.

I don't see any IMAP group that can be removed.

Andreas.

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:20:48 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 

AS> On Dez 12 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 22:44:55 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 
>> 
AS> How can I undo the mess the cloud setup has left behind?
>> 
>> Could you be more specific?

AS> gnus-server-toggle-cloud-method-server is grossly misnamed, it doesn't
AS> toggle anything.

You're right. It sets `gnus-cloud-method' but doesn't toggle. You should remove that
customization and the IMAP group it created, and perhaps that will work
for you.

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On Dez 12 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 22:44:55 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 
>
> AS> How can I undo the mess the cloud setup has left behind?
>
> Could you be more specific?

gnus-server-toggle-cloud-method-server is grossly misnamed, it doesn't
toggle anything.

Andreas.

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 16:24:09 +0100 Joakim Jalap <joakim.jalap@HIDDEN> wrote: 

JJ> Since I was one of the, apparently, few who used 'gnus-sync' and I've
JJ> missed it ever since it disappeared, I thought I'd chime in here. I'd be
JJ> glad to provide all the info I can.

Thanks for your help.

JJ> For starters I don't have the same problem as Andreas. I've done the
JJ> setup as described in the manual. My *Server* buffer looks like this:

JJ>      {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
JJ>      {nndraft:} (opened)
JJ>      {nntp:eternal-september} (opened) (cloud-sync)
JJ>      {nnimap:fastmail} (opened) (CLOUD-HOST)
JJ>      {nnimap:gmail} (opened)
JJ>      {nntp:gmane} (opened) (cloud-sync)

JJ> When I try to do '~ u' in the *Group* buffer I get the following
JJ> message (after entering and reentering a passphrase):

JJ> Failed to upload Gnus Cloud data to nnimap+fastmail:Emacs-Cloud

JJ> I've turned on `nnimap-record-commands', and this is what's in the *imap
JJ> log* buffer:

JJ> 16:14:20 [mail.messagingengine.com] 324 SELECT "Emacs-Cloud"^M
JJ> 16:14:20 [mail.messagingengine.com] 325 CREATE "Emacs-Cloud"^M
JJ> 16:14:25 [mail.messagingengine.com] 326 APPEND "Emacs-Cloud" {4362}^M

JJ> I'm also running with debug-on-error, but that doesn't trigger.

I assume there's nothing useful in *Messages*?

Hmm. I just tried it and had no issues on upload or download. Could you
try setting `gnus-cloud-storage-method' to nil to bypass encoding
altogether? Then try the other methods, to see if the default 'epg
storage method is the issue? If it is, we can focus on the EPG
integration. If it's not, we'll keep digging into nnimap itself.

Thanks again
Ted




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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 22:44:55 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 

AS> How can I undo the mess the cloud setup has left behind?

Could you be more specific?

Ted




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Ted Zlatanov <tzz@HIDDEN> writes:

> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:38:44 +0200 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 
>
> AS> When trying to set up a gnus-cloud I got this error, rendering it unsuable:
> AS> nnimap-request-accept-article: Writing to process: Bad file descriptor, *nnimap*
>
> Can you provide a stack trace, your settings, or other typically useful
> information for resolving a bug?
>
> Thanks
> Ted

Since I was one of the, apparently, few who used 'gnus-sync' and I've
missed it ever since it disappeared, I thought I'd chime in here. I'd be
glad to provide all the info I can.

For starters I don't have the same problem as Andreas. I've done the
setup as described in the manual. My *Server* buffer looks like this:

     {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
     {nndraft:} (opened)
     {nntp:eternal-september} (opened) (cloud-sync)
     {nnimap:fastmail} (opened) (CLOUD-HOST)
     {nnimap:gmail} (opened)
     {nntp:gmane} (opened) (cloud-sync)

When I try to do '~ u' in the *Group* buffer I get the following
message (after entering and reentering a passphrase):

Failed to upload Gnus Cloud data to nnimap+fastmail:Emacs-Cloud

I've turned on `nnimap-record-commands', and this is what's in the *imap
log* buffer:

16:14:20 [mail.messagingengine.com] 324 SELECT "Emacs-Cloud"^M
16:14:20 [mail.messagingengine.com] 325 CREATE "Emacs-Cloud"^M
16:14:25 [mail.messagingengine.com] 326 APPEND "Emacs-Cloud" {4362}^M

I'm also running with debug-on-error, but that doesn't trigger.

That's about as far as I got. Long ago I tried debugging it, but I got
lost in the maze of nnimap.

If there's some more data I can provide I'd be more than happy to.




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How can I undo the mess the cloud setup has left behind?

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On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:38:44 +0200 Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: 

AS> When trying to set up a gnus-cloud I got this error, rendering it unsuable:
AS> nnimap-request-accept-article: Writing to process: Bad file descriptor, *nnimap*

Can you provide a stack trace, your settings, or other typically useful
information for resolving a bug?

Thanks
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From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN>
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Subject: gnus-cloud does not work
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X-Yow: Sometimes a TABOO is just a good CIGAR -- or a
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When trying to set up a gnus-cloud I got this error, rendering it unsuable:

nnimap-request-accept-article: Writing to process: Bad file descriptor, *nnimap*

Andreas.

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Acknowledgement sent to Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#28845; Package emacs. Full text available.
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