Package: emacs;
Reported by: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:19:01 UTC
Severity: minor
Found in version 25.3
Done: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
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From: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 25.3; doc errors for ‘M-x set-variable’ doc Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:17:55 -0500
"Using Emacs as a Server" says ... You can run multiple Emacs servers on the same machine by giving each one a unique “server name”, using the variable ‘server-name’. For example, ‘M-x set-variable <RET> server-name <RET> "foo" <RET>’ sets the server name to ‘foo’. Errors: 1) If the server is not running, ‘M-x set-variable <RET> server-name <RET>' fails and displays 'Set variable: server-name [no match]' 2) If the server is running, ‘M-x set-variable <RET> server-name <RET> "foo" <RET>’ works but 'emacsclient -s foo' fails 3) We only see the server-start help after 'M-x server-start' + 'M-x describe-variable <RET> server-name <RET>' to see ... server-name is a variable defined in ‘server.el’. [...] The name of the Emacs server, if this Emacs process creates one. The command ‘server-start’ makes use of this. It should not be changed while a server is running. 4) AFAICT, the only way to use 'M-x server-name' to set the name is to: 1) start the server, 2) set the name, 3) re-start the server. So... a possible, but messy, doc may be ... "For example, to set the server name name to "foo" from within emacs, do the following: 1) 'M-x server-start', 2) ‘M-x set-variable <RET> server-name <RET> "foo" <RET>’, and 3) do 'M-x server-start' again." Related enhancement ideas ... a) Add server-name to server-start arguments? b) Add server-name function that (re)/starts the server if running/not-running? HTH - George In GNU Emacs 25.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) of 2017-11-02 built on localhost Configured using: 'configure CONFIG_SHELL=/gnu/store/6hsr7fb705l35g6rqx0ai5qhaj0hzlsp-bash-minimal-4.4.12/bin/bash SHELL=/gnu/store/6hsr7fb705l35g6rqx0ai5qhaj0hzlsp-bash-minimal-4.4.12/bin/bash --prefix=/gnu/store/0db35vnbjkzrjl75pb8jh9x8c7glp9ai-emacs-no-x-toolkit-25.3 --enable-fast-install --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu --with-x-toolkit=no' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: IBuffer Minor modes in effect: magit-auto-revert-mode: t global-git-commit-mode: t async-bytecomp-package-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t erc-list-mode: t erc-menu-mode: t erc-autojoin-mode: t erc-ring-mode: t erc-networks-mode: t erc-pcomplete-mode: t erc-track-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-button-mode: t erc-fill-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t erc-netsplit-mode: t erc-irccontrols-mode: t erc-noncommands-mode: t erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t erc-readonly-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t volatile-highlights-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t winner-mode: t xterm-mouse-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Mark set Quit Mark activated Mark set [2 times] Saving file /home/g1/src/emacs-server-naem-bug.org... 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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> To: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> Cc: 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29289: 25.3; doc errors for ‘M-x set-variable’ doc Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:03:03 -0500
This largely duplicates https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 .
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From: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> Cc: 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29289: 25.3; doc errors for ‘M-x set-variable’ doc Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:42:13 -0500
On 11/13/2017 at 22:03 Glenn Morris writes: > This largely duplicates https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 . Hi Glenn, Thanks. I am surprised to see the earlier bug because I searched bug-gnu-emacs and didn't find it, e.g. ... http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=20&result=normal&sort=score Is the bug-gnu-emacs archive broken? So 23576 is marked minor and done, but the emacs doc still has these bugs. Are you saying merge and reopen? TIA - George
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org, 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29289: 25.3; doc errors for ‘M-x set-variable’ doc Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:22:38 +0200
> From: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:42:13 -0500 > Cc: 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > So 23576 is marked minor and done, but the emacs doc still has these > bugs. Are you saying merge and reopen? TIA - George No, the bugs in the documentation were fixed. It's just that they were fixed for the upcoming Emacs 26.1, and you are using 25.3. You are welcome to try the pretest of Emacs 26.1, which is available from alpha.gnu.org, and see for yourself that the documentation was fixed, and the software was fixed as well. E.g., in the pretest, typing "M-x set-variable RET server-name RET" does allow you to set the name even before you start a server, and "emacsclient -s" also works after that.
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From: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org, 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29289: 25.3; doc errors for ‘M-x set-variable’ doc Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:56:46 -0500
On 11/14/2017 at 15:22 Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> >> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:42:13 -0500 >> Cc: 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> So 23576 is marked minor and done, but the emacs doc still has these >> bugs. Are you saying merge and reopen? TIA - George > > No, the bugs in the documentation were fixed. It's just that they > were fixed for the upcoming Emacs 26.1, and you are using 25.3. You > are welcome to try the pretest of Emacs 26.1, which is available from > alpha.gnu.org, and see for yourself that the documentation was fixed, > and the software was fixed as well. E.g., in the pretest, typing > "M-x set-variable RET server-name RET" does allow you to set the name > even before you start a server, and "emacsclient -s" also works after > that. Hi Eli, Thank you for clarifying, I didn't read the bug carefully. ;-)
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com>, 29289-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29289: 25.3; doc errors for ‘M-x set-variable’ doc Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:27:48 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >> From: myglc2 <myglc2 <at> gmail.com> >> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:42:13 -0500 >> Cc: 29289 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> So 23576 is marked minor and done, but the emacs doc still has these >> bugs. Are you saying merge and reopen? TIA - George > > No, the bugs in the documentation were fixed. It's just that they > were fixed for the upcoming Emacs 26.1, and you are using 25.3. You > are welcome to try the pretest of Emacs 26.1, which is available from > alpha.gnu.org, and see for yourself that the documentation was fixed, > and the software was fixed as well. E.g., in the pretest, typing > "M-x set-variable RET server-name RET" does allow you to set the name > even before you start a server, and "emacsclient -s" also works after > that. It seems like this was fixed in Emacs 26.1. I'm therefore closing this bug. If anyone is still seeing these problems on that version or later, please report back so we can reopen it. Best regards, Stefan Kangas
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