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imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct image backend (minor)

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From: adam plaice <plaice.adam+lists <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct image backend
 (minor)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 21:12:07 +0000

If emacs was compiled with both imagemagick and specific image type
backend support (e.g. librsvg, libpng), then imagemagick-types-inhibit
has no effect on the backend used for the given image types (e.g. svg, png).

* To reproduce

1. With emacs -Q, evaluate:

(setq imagemagick-types-inhibit t)
(imagemagick-register-types)

(Alternatively and equivalently, customize imagemagick-types-inhibit
to t, or place the above two lines in init.el.)

2. Open a png file in emacs. For instance:

wget https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Test.png

C-x C-f Test.png RET

* Expected result

The image is opened in image-mode, using the libpng backend (and
(Image[png]) is displayed in the mode-line).

* Actual result

The image is opened in image-mode, using the imagemagick backend (and
(Image[imagemagick]) is displayed in the mode-line), despite
imagemagick-types-inhibit having been set to `t'.

According to both the docstring of imagemagick-types-inhibit and the Texinfo
manual ((elisp) ImageMagick Images), imagemagick-types-inhibit should prevent
imagemagick from being used for the given image type (or overall for t).


* Discussion and speculation

This is obviously a very minor bug, since it's only a matter of the
choice of backend and it only came up when investigating #29581, where
it was interesting to determine the effect of different backends.


I think that the issue is caused by these lines (in the definition of
image-toggle-display-image in image-mode.el):

     (type (if (fboundp 'imagemagick-types)
           'imagemagick
         (image-type file-or-data nil data-p)))

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/image-mode.el?h=emacs-26#n761

It seems that if imagemagick is available, then irrespective of the
value of imagemagick-types-inhibit, the imagemagick backend will
always be used.

If alternative backends (libpng etc.) were not compiled in,
imagemagick-types-inhibit set to `t' would have caused image-mode not
to be present in the auto-mode-alist, meaning that image-mode would
not be activated by default and imagemagick-types-inhibit would act as
expected.  However, when these other backends are compiled in, then
they modify the auto-mode-alist, causing image-mode to be used for
.png or .svg files, despite the fact that once image-mode is launched,
the imagemagick backend will be used.


I'm not sure what is the right solution in this case. The easiest
would be to update the documentation to the current state of
affairs.  OTOH being able to easily set the image backend is
occasionally nice to have.

Thank you and best regards,
Adam


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Message #10 received at 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: adam plaice <plaice.adam+lists <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29584: imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct
 image backend (minor)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:25:54 -0500

adam plaice wrote:

> I think that the issue is caused by these lines (in the definition of
> image-toggle-display-image in image-mode.el):
>
>      (type (if (fboundp 'imagemagick-types)
>            'imagemagick
>          (image-type file-or-data nil data-p)))

Yes, see:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-diffs/2014-08/msg00039.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-08/msg00101.html

    This may be a kinda controversial change, since it now defaults to
    using imagemagick for images, if you have support for imagemagick.

    But this makes it possible to browse a typical
    directory-of-images-from-your-camera just by hitting `n' a lot, without
    a lot of futzing around, so I think it's a net win.

    Perhaps there should be an option to disable it if it annoys people.

Message #13 received at 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Adam Plaice <plaiceadam <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29584: imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct
 image backend (minor)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 19:32:12 +0000

Thanks for the clarification.

As it's a deliberate change and to avoid over-complication that nobody
usually needs (if one generally dislikes the imagemagick backend then
one should use a version of emacs compiled without it, and in the very
rare case when one does need to change the backend on the fly, one can
just override image-toggle-display-image), leaving the code alone is
probably the best option.

However, I'd argue that the documentation should be updated — the
docstring of imagemagick-types-inhibit already contains extensive
warnings

"
If you change this without using customize, you must call
‘imagemagick-register-types’ afterwards.

If Emacs is compiled without ImageMagick support, this variable
has no effect.
"

so another sentence to the effect of "If emacs is compiled with
alternative image backends, in addition to ImageMagick support, this
variable also has no effect." wouldn't be out place (and since there
are already extensive warnings, creating an impression of
completeness, the absence of an important warning — having multiple sets
of backends is probably the most frequent situation on GNU/Linux —
would be confusing).

Message #16 received at 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Adam Plaice <plaiceadam <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29584: imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct
 image backend (minor)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:17:34 +0100

Adam Plaice <plaiceadam <at> gmail.com> writes:

> As it's a deliberate change and to avoid over-complication that nobody
> usually needs (if one generally dislikes the imagemagick backend then
> one should use a version of emacs compiled without it, and in the very
> rare case when one does need to change the backend on the fly, one can
> just override image-toggle-display-image), leaving the code alone is
> probably the best option.

I think it probably wouldn't be very difficult to make image-mode
respect that variable, and that would probably be the nicest fix here...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #19 received at 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Adam Plaice <plaiceadam <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29584: imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct
 image backend (minor)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:37:05 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Adam Plaice <plaiceadam <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> As it's a deliberate change and to avoid over-complication that nobody
>> usually needs (if one generally dislikes the imagemagick backend then
>> one should use a version of emacs compiled without it, and in the very
>> rare case when one does need to change the backend on the fly, one can
>> just override image-toggle-display-image), leaving the code alone is
>> probably the best option.
>
> I think it probably wouldn't be very difficult to make image-mode
> respect that variable, and that would probably be the nicest fix here...

I've now done so in Emacs 27.1.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #26 received at 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Adam Plaice <plaiceadam <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 29584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29584: imagemagick-types-inhibit does not result in correct
 image backend (minor)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:26:43 +0200

Great! Thanks!

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