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Guix,

[Opening a new bug for these, rather than further overloading #29591.]

I'm celebrating the new Guix web with a quick and certainly incomplete
sweep for dead links in the HTML manual at gnu.org. I think (though I
have no data to back this up) that a significant number of newer users
are far more likely to use this version than any copy shipped with Guix.
Young people and their webs and all that.

So far, I've found the following:

- Defining Packages[0]:
  “GNU configuration triplets” is broken.
  It points inside the Guix manual, not autoconf's.

- Package Management[1]:
  “The Emacs-Guix Reference Manual” is broken.
  It points to a URI with duplicate ‘/index.html’s.

- Using the Offload Facility[2]:
  “Converting keys” points to #Converting-keys, the target site uses
  #Converting%20keys. I don't know who's right. The page still loads
  so the user can navigate manually, but it would still be nice to fix.

- Formatting Code[3]:
  Similarly points to ‘index.html/Development.html’ when it should use
  only ‘Development.html’.

- Networking Services[4]:
  “lsh-make-seed” and “lshd basics” also use bad anchors, so the user
  has to search and scroll.

- The Perfect Setup[5]:
  “Introduction in the Geiser User Manual” is a broken link.

- Continuous Integration[6]:
  “Associations Lists in GNU Guile Reference Manual” is broken.
  It points inside the Guix manual, not Guile's.

- Mapped Devices[7]:
  “Translators in The GNU Hurd Reference Manual” is broken.
  It points inside the Guix manual, not The Hurd's.

- Documentation[8]:
  “Getting Started in Info: An Introduction” is broken.

Even without any Texinfo knowledge, I thought this would be easy to
quickly fix myself. I had no such luck.

Kind regards,

T G-R

[0]:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Defining-Packages.html
[1]:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Package-Management.html
[2]:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Daemon-Offload-Setup.html
[3]: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Formatting-Code.html
[4]:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Networking-Services.html
[5]:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/The-Perfect-Setup.html
[6]:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Continuous-Integration.html
[7]: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Mapped-Devices.html
[8]: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Documentation.html

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Hello!

Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN> skribis:

> I'm celebrating the new Guix web with a quick and certainly incomplete
> sweep for dead links in the HTML manual at gnu.org. I think (though I
> have no data to back this up) that a significant number of newer users
> are far more likely to use this version than any copy shipped with Guix.
> Young people and their webs and all that.

I=E2=80=99ll see if I can get around to fixing those, but for the record, m=
ost
of them are Texinfo links derived from what doc/htmlxref.cnf specifies.

Thanks for the list!

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Ludo',

Ludovic Courtès wrote on 07/12/17 at 22:11:
> most of them are Texinfo links derived from what doc/htmlxref.cnf specifies.

Thanks! I thought as much. I thought these would be trivial to fix, but
it's a bit more involved than just twiddling some URIs. I'll take
another look.

> I’ll see if I can get around to fixing those

This bug serves mainly to keep track of what needs fixing and remind
myself to do so. I don't expect anyone to jump.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Hi Tobias,

From my quick tests, the 9 broken links that you reported are now fixed.

> This bug serves mainly to keep track of what needs fixing and remind
> myself to do so. I don't expect anyone to jump.

Does it make sense to close it?

Thanks in advance for any comments.


All the best,
simon

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Hi Tobias,

My quick tests were really quick! ;-)

These links remains broken. Do you have any patch fixing them that you
forgot to push?
Or do I invest more time to propose a patch?


Thank you in advance.

Cheers,
simon


Same with the online "manual/devel".


- Package Management[1]:
  =E2=80=9CThe Emacs-Guix Reference Manual=E2=80=9D is broken.
  It points to a URI with duplicate =E2=80=98/index.html=E2=80=99s.

This link [1b] is still broken.

[1]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Package-Management.=
html
[1b] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/emacs-guix/index.html#Top

Seems broken in Info too.

Related to Formatting Code [3].
  Similarly points to =E2=80=98index.html/Development.html=E2=80=99 when it=
 should use
  only =E2=80=98Development.html=E2=80=99.

[3]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Formatting-Code.htm=
l
[3b] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/emacs-guix/Development.html#Development

contributing.texi:
@pxref{Development,,, emacs-guix, The Emacs-Guix Reference Manual}


- Using the Offload Facility[2]:
  =E2=80=9CConverting keys=E2=80=9D points to #Converting-keys, the target =
site uses
  #Converting%20keys. I don't know who's right. The page still loads
  so the user can navigate manually, but it would still be nice to fix.

The manual (texi entry: @pxref{Converting keys,,, lsh, LSH Manual}) points =
to
[2b] and the working link is [2c].

[2]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Daemon-Offload-Setu=
p.html
[2b] http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/lsh/lsh.html#Converting-keys
[2c] http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/lsh/lsh.html#Converting%20keys


How to fix it?



- Networking Services[4]:
  =E2=80=9Clsh-make-seed=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Clshd basics=E2=80=9D also us=
e bad anchors, so the user
  has to search and scroll.

Idem as previous.

[4]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Networking-Services=
.html
[4b] http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/lsh/lsh.html#lsh_002dmake_002dsede
[4c] http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/lsh/lsh.html#lshd%20basics


- The Perfect Setup[5]:
  =E2=80=9CIntroduction in the Geiser User Manual=E2=80=9D is a broken link=
.

The entry is @pxref{Introduction,,, geiser, Geiser User Manual} which works=
 in
Info but is broken online.

[5]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/The-Perfect-Setup.h=
tml
[5b] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/geiser/Introduction.html#Introduction
[5c] http://nongnu.org/geiser/geiser_1.html#Introduction


- Continuous Integration[6]:
  =E2=80=9CAssociations Lists in GNU Guile Reference Manual=E2=80=9D is bro=
ken.
  It points inside the Guix manual, not Guile's.

The page [6] points to [6b] which is broken.

[6]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Continuous-Integrat=
ion.html
[6b] https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Associations-Lists=
.html#Associations-Lists


Is the link also broken with Info?


- Mapped Devices[7]:
  =E2=80=9CTranslators in The GNU Hurd Reference Manual=E2=80=9D is broken.
  It points inside the Guix manual, not The Hurd's.

Idem as previous.

[7]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Mapped-Devices.html
[7b] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/hurd/Translators.html#Translators


- Documentation[8]:
  =E2=80=9CGetting Started in Info: An Introduction=E2=80=9D is broken.

Idem.

[8]  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Documentation.html
[8b] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/info/Getting-Started.html#Getting-Start=
ed

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On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 10:39 PM, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> Greg Hogan <code@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> The page https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Int=
erfaces.html
>> has a broken link "Debbugs User Guide" to the page
>> https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/debbugs-ug/index.html#Top.
>
> There doesn't seem to be an online HTML version of this manual, so the
> bug doesn't appear actionable.
>
> It works when using 'info', provided the 'emacs-debbugs' package is
> installed.

I noticed the broken html link before but never tracked down the correct
link to patch it. But just now a search gave me
<https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html> which looks helpful?

John

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