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charset="UTF-8" On 2/19/2018 at 8:35 PM, "Pádraig Brady" <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > >On 18/02/18 10:41, chadweisman@HIDDEN wrote: >> >>> On 12/08/2017 11:38 AM, Eric B wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I am using coreutils version 8.27 on Fedora, and I don't see >this fixed in >>>> 8.28's NEWS. >>>> >>>> $ seq 1 --help >>>> seq: invalid floating point argument: ‘--help’ >>>> Try 'seq --help' for more information. >> >>> Interesting bug! >> >>>> >>>> We should be able to put the options anywhere and not >necessarily before any >>>> arguments. >> >>> Yes, when possible. >> >>>> And even if not (e.g. POSIX conformance overrides,) >> >>> POSIX does say you have to write 'foo -- --help' if you want to >>> guarantee that --help is treated as a literal argument rather >than >>> option, but it also says that the moment you specify '--help' >(or any >>> other parameter starting with two dashes without the -- end-of- >options >>> parameter), you are already in undefined territory. So we can >do >>> whatever we want when encountering '--help' - which is part of >the >>> reason WHY the GNU project prefers making 'foo args --help' >print help >>> output where possible. >> >>>> --help should be handled specially to conform to the GNU >coding standards. [1] >> >>> Yes. >> >>> But the reason that it fails is because we use getopt_long(..., >>> "+f:s:w") - where the leading '+' specifically requests that we >NOT >>> allow option reordering. Why? Because 'seq' is MOST useful if >it can >>> parse negative numbers easily. We deemed it more important to >support >>> 'seq 2 -1 1' without requiring the user to write 'seq -- 2 -1 >1' - but >>> in doing so, it also means that we can't reorder options, so >any obvious >>> non-option (like '1' in your example) makes all other parameters >>> non-options (including '--help' in your example). >> >>> It might be possible to do a two-pass parse over argv: one that >looks >>> just for --help (and where treating -1 as an option is a no- >op), and the >>> second that actually parses things in order now that it knows -- >help is >>> not present. But that's a lot of code to add for a corner >case, so I >>> won't be writing the patch; but I also won't turn it down if >someone >>> else wants to write the patch. >> >> Hello, >> >> I've taken a stab at fixing this problem because it affects me >fairly often. >> >> Instead of using a two-pass system, I check if any of the args >we scan are --help or --version and bail if we see either. See >attached patch. >> >> The bad side of this approach is that the -f, -s, and -w options >and their associated long options aren't handled so `seq 1 -w 2 >10` still shows an error. Also, it's a kludgy sort of fix, so I >completely understand why you wouldn't want to include it. But at >least it's a step in the right direction to give help when we can >instead of an error. >> >> Chad >> > >Thanks for looking at this again. >You attached the wrong patch. > Wow, did I ever! Sorry for that. >A helper function to prescan argv to look for --help and call >usage() >or --version and call version_etc(), while bailing itself >if it encounters '--', does seem useful to have in seq. >Though note it probably shouldn't support abbreviations like --h >etc. > >BTW other commands that use '+' with getopt() to exist option >processing early are tr, basename, pathchk, printf. >Though all those could interpret --option as a valid argument >and so wouldn't be appropriate to treat like this. >Likewise for all the commands the exec, like chroot, env, ... >as --options are very often passed to the delegate commands. > I also tried a two-pass approach but it ended up being pretty messy. I can't help but think using argp would make this particular problem easier to handle. 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Full text available.Received: (at 29617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2018 01:35:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 19 20:35:10 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51931 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1enwpq-0004Oy-Gf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:35:10 -0500 Received: from mail.magicbluesmoke.com ([82.195.144.49]:41910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <P@HIDDEN>) id 1enwpn-0004Op-Lq for 29617 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:35:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [76.21.115.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.magicbluesmoke.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1937D94FB; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 01:35:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: bug#29617: `seq 1 --help' doesn't give help To: chadweisman@HIDDEN, 29617 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <20171208173823.7BEF6C055F@HIDDEN> <20180218184125.BB134C04F4@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=c3=a1draig_Brady?= <P@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <72e833da-2c91-8be1-33c6-c92925587317@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:35:03 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180218184125.BB134C04F4@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29617 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 18/02/18 10:41, chadweisman@HIDDEN wrote: > >> On 12/08/2017 11:38 AM, Eric B wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am using coreutils version 8.27 on Fedora, and I don't see this fixed in >>> 8.28's NEWS. >>> >>> $ seq 1 --help >>> seq: invalid floating point argument: ‘--help’ >>> Try 'seq --help' for more information. > >> Interesting bug! > >>> >>> We should be able to put the options anywhere and not necessarily before any >>> arguments. > >> Yes, when possible. > >>> And even if not (e.g. POSIX conformance overrides,) > >> POSIX does say you have to write 'foo -- --help' if you want to >> guarantee that --help is treated as a literal argument rather than >> option, but it also says that the moment you specify '--help' (or any >> other parameter starting with two dashes without the -- end-of-options >> parameter), you are already in undefined territory. So we can do >> whatever we want when encountering '--help' - which is part of the >> reason WHY the GNU project prefers making 'foo args --help' print help >> output where possible. > >>> --help should be handled specially to conform to the GNU coding standards. [1] > >> Yes. > >> But the reason that it fails is because we use getopt_long(..., >> "+f:s:w") - where the leading '+' specifically requests that we NOT >> allow option reordering. Why? Because 'seq' is MOST useful if it can >> parse negative numbers easily. We deemed it more important to support >> 'seq 2 -1 1' without requiring the user to write 'seq -- 2 -1 1' - but >> in doing so, it also means that we can't reorder options, so any obvious >> non-option (like '1' in your example) makes all other parameters >> non-options (including '--help' in your example). > >> It might be possible to do a two-pass parse over argv: one that looks >> just for --help (and where treating -1 as an option is a no-op), and the >> second that actually parses things in order now that it knows --help is >> not present. But that's a lot of code to add for a corner case, so I >> won't be writing the patch; but I also won't turn it down if someone >> else wants to write the patch. > > Hello, > > I've taken a stab at fixing this problem because it affects me fairly often. > > Instead of using a two-pass system, I check if any of the args we scan are --help or --version and bail if we see either. See attached patch. > > The bad side of this approach is that the -f, -s, and -w options and their associated long options aren't handled so `seq 1 -w 2 10` still shows an error. Also, it's a kludgy sort of fix, so I completely understand why you wouldn't want to include it. But at least it's a step in the right direction to give help when we can instead of an error. > > Chad > Thanks for looking at this again. You attached the wrong patch. A helper function to prescan argv to look for --help and call usage() or --version and call version_etc(), while bailing itself if it encounters '--', does seem useful to have in seq. Though note it probably shouldn't support abbreviations like --h etc. BTW other commands that use '+' with getopt() to exist option processing early are tr, basename, pathchk, printf. Though all those could interpret --option as a valid argument and so wouldn't be appropriate to treat like this. Likewise for all the commands the exec, like chroot, env, ... as --options are very often passed to the delegate commands. cheers, Pádraig.
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> > > > We should be able to put the options anywhere and not necessarily before any > > arguments. > Yes, when possible. > > And even if not (e.g. POSIX conformance overrides,) > POSIX does say you have to write 'foo -- --help' if you want to > guarantee that --help is treated as a literal argument rather than > option, but it also says that the moment you specify '--help' (or any > other parameter starting with two dashes without the -- end-of-options > parameter), you are already in undefined territory. So we can do > whatever we want when encountering '--help' - which is part of the > reason WHY the GNU project prefers making 'foo args --help' print help > output where possible. > > --help should be handled specially to conform to the GNU coding standards. [1] > Yes. > But the reason that it fails is because we use getopt_long(..., > "+f:s:w") - where the leading '+' specifically requests that we NOT > allow option reordering. Why? Because 'seq' is MOST useful if it can > parse negative numbers easily. We deemed it more important to support > 'seq 2 -1 1' without requiring the user to write 'seq -- 2 -1 1' - but > in doing so, it also means that we can't reorder options, so any obvious > non-option (like '1' in your example) makes all other parameters > non-options (including '--help' in your example). > It might be possible to do a two-pass parse over argv: one that looks > just for --help (and where treating -1 as an option is a no-op), and the > second that actually parses things in order now that it knows --help is > not present. But that's a lot of code to add for a corner case, so I > won't be writing the patch; but I also won't turn it down if someone > else wants to write the patch. Hello, I've taken a stab at fixing this problem because it affects me fairly often. Instead of using a two-pass system, I check if any of the args we scan are --help or --version and bail if we see either. See attached patch. The bad side of this approach is that the -f, -s, and -w options and their associated long options aren't handled so `seq 1 -w 2 10` still shows an error. Also, it's a kludgy sort of fix, so I completely understand why you wouldn't want to include it. But at least it's a step in the right direction to give help when we can instead of an error. 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Full text available.Received: (at 29617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2017 18:55:16 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 08 13:55:16 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52872 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1eNNnl-0003qg-SA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:55:16 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:55724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eblake@HIDDEN>) id 1eNNnj-0003qS-U6 for 29617 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:55:12 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30B3A64DB9; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.123.138] (ovpn-123-138.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.123.138]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CD968D8F; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: bug#29617: `seq 1 --help' doesn't give help To: chadweisman@HIDDEN, 29617 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <20171208173823.7BEF6C055F@HIDDEN> From: Eric Blake <eblake@HIDDEN> Openpgp: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Organization: Red Hat, Inc. Message-ID: <221f21d0-6069-3d7e-4af4-a02d759614a5@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 12:55:04 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171208173823.7BEF6C055F@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9Ju7FwDtrW2iFIxjkQNmjD1SdM0u9WrLW" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29617 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9Ju7FwDtrW2iFIxjkQNmjD1SdM0u9WrLW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8AU4NNsHBfgPiwjHUvdcDuVnrVdXTraxC"; protected-headers="v1" From: Eric Blake <eblake@HIDDEN> To: chadweisman@HIDDEN, 29617 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: <221f21d0-6069-3d7e-4af4-a02d759614a5@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#29617: `seq 1 --help' doesn't give help References: <20171208173823.7BEF6C055F@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20171208173823.7BEF6C055F@HIDDEN> --8AU4NNsHBfgPiwjHUvdcDuVnrVdXTraxC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/08/2017 11:38 AM, chadweisman@HIDDEN wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am using coreutils version 8.27 on Fedora, and I don't see this fixed= in 8.28's NEWS. >=20 > $ seq 1 --help > seq: invalid floating point argument: =E2=80=98--help=E2=80=99 > Try 'seq --help' for more information. Interesting bug! >=20 > We should be able to put the options anywhere and not necessarily befor= e any arguments. Yes, when possible. > And even if not (e.g. POSIX conformance overrides,) POSIX does say you have to write 'foo -- --help' if you want to guarantee that --help is treated as a literal argument rather than option, but it also says that the moment you specify '--help' (or any other parameter starting with two dashes without the -- end-of-options parameter), you are already in undefined territory. So we can do whatever we want when encountering '--help' - which is part of the reason WHY the GNU project prefers making 'foo args --help' print help output where possible. > --help should be handled specially to conform to the GNU coding standar= ds. [1] Yes. But the reason that it fails is because we use getopt_long(..., "+f:s:w") - where the leading '+' specifically requests that we NOT allow option reordering. Why? Because 'seq' is MOST useful if it can parse negative numbers easily. We deemed it more important to support 'seq 2 -1 1' without requiring the user to write 'seq -- 2 -1 1' - but in doing so, it also means that we can't reorder options, so any obvious non-option (like '1' in your example) makes all other parameters non-options (including '--help' in your example). It might be possible to do a two-pass parse over argv: one that looks just for --help (and where treating -1 as an option is a no-op), and the second that actually parses things in order now that it knows --help is not present. But that's a lot of code to add for a corner case, so I won't be writing the patch; but I also won't turn it down if someone else wants to write the patch. --=20 Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. +1-919-301-3266 Virtualization: qemu.org | libvirt.org --8AU4NNsHBfgPiwjHUvdcDuVnrVdXTraxC-- --9Ju7FwDtrW2iFIxjkQNmjD1SdM0u9WrLW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEccLMIrHEYCkn0vOqp6FrSiUnQ2oFAloq4AgACgkQp6FrSiUn Q2rYFAf+JzSch+gFs6daPYghMSULcHQ06ThygtZNP/G/e9ZBX91e3cC5FBwY9TeR 2ahxo1gu+TE3WT9OvbIo4gjM6BYijikeAqE7+hDSbPli58O30FAIA6SwXdWfX1pT Eg6T0wqnPDxqRkq8b92bVyHan9XejdEteFUxbEa1zeVFM0MCFhT+D9vIuTTTRQ3Y qn+qbEelNfe2CnJlh8wrDRA24VGbqP6Yit80OIMGeziFN/OculNS3ZYGq2B/oOJG KOij7wUhSL9RCopGLuypn/U+G7QtEddD4hdKF1T9CIq0F5Y3HQDqlpQAEIXj76N9 MFjNo5LNEjqJAusq7wGu/qf/FSi4qw== =mP75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9Ju7FwDtrW2iFIxjkQNmjD1SdM0u9WrLW--
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