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no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed time format

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From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys)
Subject: no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed time format
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 05:57:35 +0800

On (info "(gnus) Customizing Articles")
there are

     ‘lapsed’
          The time elapsed since the message was posted.

     ‘combined-lapsed’
          Both the original date header and a (shortened) elapsed time.

     ‘local’
          The user’s local time zone.

but frustratingly no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
etc. In fact looking at gnus-art.el it seems extremely hard.

Sure there is a "user-defined" option, but that only deals with
non-elapsed things.

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Message #8 received at 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29990: no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
 time format
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 20:05:31 +0200

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

> On (info "(gnus) Customizing Articles")
> there are
>
>      ‘lapsed’
>           The time elapsed since the message was posted.
>
>      ‘combined-lapsed’
>           Both the original date header and a (shortened) elapsed time.
>
>      ‘local’
>           The user’s local time zone.
>
> but frustratingly no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
> etc. In fact looking at gnus-art.el it seems extremely hard.

I don't think there is such an option, so if anybody wants that, they'd
have to write it themselves.  Nobody has ever requested it.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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Message #15 received at 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29990: no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
 time format
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:12:53 +0800

So why is
>> Both the original date header and a (shortened) elapsed time.
better than
>> Both the date header in local time and a (shortened) elapsed time.

Does the date in say Norway, where I have never even been,
make more sense to me the reader, than the date where I am now?

Message #18 received at 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29990: no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
 time format
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:25:17 +0200

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

> Does the date in say Norway, where I have never even been,
> make more sense to me the reader, than the date where I am now?

Sure.  You'll be able to see that I'm typing this in the middle of the
night, and the lapsed time says how long ago that was.  Which is what
all everybody wants to know.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #21 received at 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29990: no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
 time format
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:28:18 +0800

>>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
LI> Sure.  You'll be able to see that I'm typing this in the middle of the
LI> night, and the lapsed time says how long ago that was.  Which is what
LI> all everybody wants to know.  :-)

OK, but then let the user choose to display more than one Date line.

Message #24 received at 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 29990 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29990: no examples of how the user could add a local-lapsed
 time format
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:37:56 +0800

So maybe have an
X-Date-There:
X-Date-Here:
X-Date-Ago:

So we can also understand the sending party's circadian rhythms.

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