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25.3; C-M-e inserts euro character

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: tomasn@HIDDEN; dated Tue, 9 Jan 2018 15:12:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 30043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:10:43 +0100
>> 
>> > Does it help to set w32-use-fallback-wm-chars-method to a non -nil
>> > value in Emacs 25.3?
>> 
>> Yes, that removes the problem.
>
> So I guess you somehow have a keyboard which doesn't fit the new
> keyboard input code introduced by Emacs 25, and need to use this
> fallback variable to avoid the problem.

Does it mean that the new input code has no fault but the keyboard
probably has a problem? The keyboard is basically

https://www.cherry.de/cid/keyboards_STRAIT_BLACK_Corded_Keyboard.htm?cpssessionid=SID-92645709-3B558B4B

but with Swedish layout.




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> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@HIDDEN>
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> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:10:43 +0100
> 
> > Does it help to set w32-use-fallback-wm-chars-method to a non -nil
> > value in Emacs 25.3?
> 
> Yes, that removes the problem.

So I guess you somehow have a keyboard which doesn't fit the new
keyboard input code introduced by Emacs 25, and need to use this
fallback variable to avoid the problem.




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> Does it help to set w32-use-fallback-wm-chars-method to a non -nil
> value in Emacs 25.3?

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> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@HIDDEN>
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> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:49:32 +0100
> 
> ./emacs-24.5/bin/runemacs.exe -Q
> fundamental mode
> Trying C-M-e with num key lit: end-of-defun is run
> Trying C-M-e with num key un-lit: end-of-defun is run
> 
> ./emacs-25.3_1/bin/runemacs.exe -Q
> fundamental mode
> Trying C-M-e with num key lit: € is inserted
> Trying C-M-e with num key un-lit: € is inserted

Does it help to set w32-use-fallback-wm-chars-method to a non -nil
value in Emacs 25.3?

> Also, on this keyboard the $ sign is on numeric key 4 and @ character is
> on key 2. They get inserted by C-M-4 and C-M-2 respectively in the
> Notepad editor for example, (simalar to the C-M-e event). The same is
> true on my neighbours computer. Thats news to me, I usually use "alt gr
> + 2" for example to insert @. So one could maybe think that those
> key-strokes are in the danger zone as well but in both emacs versions
> the effect is
> 
> C-M-2 runs the command digit-argument
> C-M-4 runs the command digit-argument
> 
> no insertion of @ or $.

My keyboard has none of that, so I'm not really sure what's going on.




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 30043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 22:06:49 +0100
>>=20
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>>=20
>> > I cannot reproduce this here, C-M-e in Emacs doesn't insert =E2=82=AC.
>>=20
>> Does C-M-e insert =E2=82=AC in some other editor for you?
>
> Yes, Word does.  In any case, what other editors do should not be
> relevant for Emacs.
>
>> >> I don't know what should be the correct behavior, but do prefer
>> >> C-M-e to run the command end-of-defun
>> >
>> > Invoking end-of-defun is the correct behavior, and that's what it does
>> > for me.
>>=20
>> Tomorrow I will check if num lock has something to do with it, I read
>> something about that on the web. Still, strange that it happens in 25
>> but not in 24.
>
> I have consistently correct behavior in Emacs here.  Do you perhaps
> have some optional software or Windows feature installed/activated
> that produces the Euro in Emacs?

Not that I know of. Here is some information on the numeric keypad
thing:

./emacs-24.5/bin/runemacs.exe -Q
fundamental mode
Trying C-M-e with num key lit: end-of-defun is run
Trying C-M-e with num key un-lit: end-of-defun is run

./emacs-25.3_1/bin/runemacs.exe -Q
fundamental mode
Trying C-M-e with num key lit: =E2=82=AC is inserted
Trying C-M-e with num key un-lit: =E2=82=AC is inserted

So it had no impact.

Also, on this keyboard the $ sign is on numeric key 4 and @ character is
on key 2. They get inserted by C-M-4 and C-M-2 respectively in the
Notepad editor for example, (simalar to the C-M-e event). The same is
true on my neighbours computer. Thats news to me, I usually use "alt gr
+ 2" for example to insert @. So one could maybe think that those
key-strokes are in the danger zone as well but in both emacs versions
the effect is

C-M-2 runs the command digit-argument
C-M-4 runs the command digit-argument

no insertion of @ or $.




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> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 30043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 22:06:49 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > I cannot reproduce this here, C-M-e in Emacs doesn't insert €.
> 
> Does C-M-e insert € in some other editor for you?

Yes, Word does.  In any case, what other editors do should not be
relevant for Emacs.

> >> I don't know what should be the correct behavior, but do prefer
> >> C-M-e to run the command end-of-defun
> >
> > Invoking end-of-defun is the correct behavior, and that's what it does
> > for me.
> 
> Tomorrow I will check if num lock has something to do with it, I read
> something about that on the web. Still, strange that it happens in 25
> but not in 24.

I have consistently correct behavior in Emacs here.  Do you perhaps
have some optional software or Windows feature installed/activated
that produces the Euro in Emacs?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> I cannot reproduce this here, C-M-e in Emacs doesn't insert =E2=82=AC.

Does C-M-e insert =E2=82=AC in some other editor for you?

>> I don't know what should be the correct behavior, but do prefer
>> C-M-e to run the command end-of-defun
>
> Invoking end-of-defun is the correct behavior, and that's what it does
> for me.

Tomorrow I will check if num lock has something to do with it, I read
something about that on the web. Still, strange that it happens in 25
but not in 24.




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> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:11:04 +0100
> From: tomasn@HIDDEN
> 
> On a (the reporting) Windows machine in other editors C-M-e inserts a
> Euro character, €. I don't know why, because I can do that with "Alt gr
> e". However, this didn't happen in Emacs 24.5.1 on that same machine.
> With Emacs as by this report it does insert the Euro character.

I cannot reproduce this here, C-M-e in Emacs doesn't insert €.

> I don't know what should be the correct behavior, but do prefer
> C-M-e to run the command end-of-defun

Invoking end-of-defun is the correct behavior, and that's what it does
for me.




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Hello Bug list

On a (the reporting) Windows machine in other editors C-M-e inserts a
Euro character, =E2=82=AC. I don't know why, because I can do that with "Al=
t gr
e". However, this didn't happen in Emacs 24.5.1 on that same machine.
With Emacs as by this report it does insert the Euro character. I don't
know what should be the correct behavior, but do prefer C-M-e to run
the command end-of-defun

In GNU Emacs 25.3.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
  of 2017-09-26 built on LAPHROAIG
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
  'configure --without-dbus --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2
  -static -g3' PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/mingw64/lib/pkgconfig'

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS

Important settings:
   value of $LANG: SVE
   locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Dired

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bug#30043; Package emacs. Full text available.
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