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27.0.50; Minor mode commands enable the minor mode even if the body fails

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Reported by: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:56:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Tags: wontfix

Found in version 27.0.50

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50;
 Minor mode commands enable the minor mode even if the body fails
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:54:56 +0100
In *scratch*:

(define-minor-mode foo-mode nil nil nil nil (error "what"))

C-h v foo-mode shows that foo-mode is nil, as it should be.
But after M-x foo-mode, it is t, even though the mode command failed.
This can be confusing for mode commands that can conditionally fail,
e.g. depending on some external property.


In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24)
 of 2018-01-22 built on localhost
Repository revision: d0fd9809d7574c67a181225fcc1c59afdbb1295c
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Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#30205; Package emacs. (Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:42:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30205: 27.0.50; Minor mode commands enable the minor mode
 even if the body fails
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:40:59 +0200
Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> In *scratch*:
>
> (define-minor-mode foo-mode nil nil nil nil (error "what"))
>
> C-h v foo-mode shows that foo-mode is nil, as it should be.
> But after M-x foo-mode, it is t, even though the mode command failed.
> This can be confusing for mode commands that can conditionally fail,
> e.g. depending on some external property.

Hm...  OK, this is the function run when saying M-x foo-mode:

       (defun ,modefun (&optional arg ,@extra-args)
         ,(easy-mmode--mode-docstring doc pretty-name keymap-sym)
	 ;; Use `toggle' rather than (if ,mode 0 1) so that using
	 ;; repeat-command still does the toggling correctly.
	 (interactive (list (or current-prefix-arg 'toggle)))
	 (let ((,last-message (current-message)))
           (,@setter
            (if (eq arg 'toggle)
                (not ,getter)
              ;; A nil argument also means ON now.
              (> (prefix-numeric-value arg) 0)))
           ,@body
           ;; The on/off hooks are here for backward compatibility only.
           (run-hooks ',hook (if ,getter ',hook-on ',hook-off))

So `setter' is the thing that sets the mode variable, and then body is
run.

I agree with you that it would be better that the mode variable remains
unchanged if `body' fails.  But I `body' is likely to need to have that
set to work.  We could roll back the value to the previous value on
errors?

Hm.  On the other hand, if `body' has done most of the stuff it needs to
do and fails "late" in the process, then the mode will be in effect even
if it failed, and in that case it would be wrong to roll back.

So I don't know.  Does anybody have an opinion?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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bug#30205; Package emacs. (Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:38:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob <at> tcd.ie>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>, 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30205: 27.0.50; Minor mode commands enable the minor mode
 even if the body fails
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:40:11 +0100
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> In *scratch*:
>>
>> (define-minor-mode foo-mode nil nil nil nil (error "what"))
>>
>> C-h v foo-mode shows that foo-mode is nil, as it should be.
>> But after M-x foo-mode, it is t, even though the mode command failed.
>> This can be confusing for mode commands that can conditionally fail,
>> e.g. depending on some external property.
>
> Hm...  OK, this is the function run when saying M-x foo-mode:
>
>        (defun ,modefun (&optional arg ,@extra-args)
>          ,(easy-mmode--mode-docstring doc pretty-name keymap-sym)
> 	 ;; Use `toggle' rather than (if ,mode 0 1) so that using
> 	 ;; repeat-command still does the toggling correctly.
> 	 (interactive (list (or current-prefix-arg 'toggle)))
> 	 (let ((,last-message (current-message)))
>            (,@setter
>             (if (eq arg 'toggle)
>                 (not ,getter)
>               ;; A nil argument also means ON now.
>               (> (prefix-numeric-value arg) 0)))
>            ,@body
>            ;; The on/off hooks are here for backward compatibility only.
>            (run-hooks ',hook (if ,getter ',hook-on ',hook-off))
>
> So `setter' is the thing that sets the mode variable, and then body is
> run.
>
> I agree with you that it would be better that the mode variable remains
> unchanged if `body' fails.  But I `body' is likely to need to have that
> set to work.  We could roll back the value to the previous value on
> errors?
>
> Hm.  On the other hand, if `body' has done most of the stuff it needs to
> do and fails "late" in the process, then the mode will be in effect even
> if it failed, and in that case it would be wrong to roll back.
>
> So I don't know.  Does anybody have an opinion?

Unless we can provide a way to roll back the entire mode function
"transaction", I would regard errors in mode functions as UB and the
real bug here.  In other words, I don't see any benefit to using the
mode variable as an indicator of success, when mode functions shouldn't
fail to begin with.

-- 
Basil




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Message #14 received at 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob <at> tcd.ie>
Cc: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>, 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30205: 27.0.50; Minor mode commands enable the minor mode
 even if the body fails
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:25:16 +0200
"Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob <at> tcd.ie> writes:

> Unless we can provide a way to roll back the entire mode function
> "transaction", I would regard errors in mode functions as UB and the
> real bug here.  In other words, I don't see any benefit to using the
> mode variable as an indicator of success, when mode functions shouldn't
> fail to begin with.

I agree, and am closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:26:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 30205 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:26:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:24:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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