GNU bug report logs - #30412
25.3; char-fold-search match for German eszett (ß)

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org>

Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:22:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: wontfix

Found in version 25.3

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.3; char-fold-search match for German eszett (ß)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:32:02 +0100

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If I customize search-default-mode to "Char-Fold Search", then an
isearch-forward for

u matches ü

and one for

o matches ö.

But there is no way to ß

A StackExchange answer by aplaice suggests a couple of fixes:

https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/32321/char-fold-search-match-for-german-eszett-%c3%9f/38696



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bug#30412; Package emacs. (Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:13:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org>
Cc: 30412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30412: 25.3; char-fold-search match for German eszett
 (ß)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:11:50 +0100

Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org> writes:

> But there is no way to ß

As the Stackexchange user explains:

---
The reason why it's absent is because char-fold-table is automatically generated
from the Unicode list of decomposable characters and Unicode believes that ß
does not "decompose" into s + s in the same way that á does decompose into a +
accute accent:

http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt

(search for: LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S).
---

So I don't think we want to diverge from Unicode here?  So I'm closing
this bug report.  If others think this is something we should do, feel
free to reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:13:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 30412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:13:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#30412; Package emacs. (Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:40:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #15 received at 30412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 30412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org>
Subject: Re: bug#30412: 25.3; char-fold-search match for German eszett
 (ß)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:39:22 +0100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Scott Otterson <scotto <at> sharpleaf.org> writes:
>
>> But there is no way to ß
>
> As the Stackexchange user explains:
>
> ---
> The reason why it's absent is because char-fold-table is automatically generated
> from the Unicode list of decomposable characters and Unicode believes that ß
> does not "decompose" into s + s in the same way that á does decompose into a +
> accute accent:
>
> http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt
>
> (search for: LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S).
> ---
>
> So I don't think we want to diverge from Unicode here?  So I'm closing
> this bug report.  If others think this is something we should do, feel
> free to reopen the bug report.

From char-fold.el:

(eval-and-compile
  (put 'char-fold-table 'char-table-extra-slots 1)
  (defconst char-fold--default-include
    '((?\" "＂" "“" "”" "”" "„" "⹂" "〞" "‟" "‟" "❞" "❝" "❠" "“" "„" "〝" "〟" "🙷" "🙶" "🙸" "«" "»")
      (?' "❟" "❛" "❜" "‘" "’" "‚" "‛" "‚" "󠀢" "❮" "❯" "‹" "›")
      (?` "❛" "‘" "‛" "󠀢" "❮" "‹")
      (?ß "ss") ;; de
      (?ι "ΐ")  ;; el for (?ΐ "ΐ") decomposition
      (?υ "ΰ")  ;; el for (?ΰ "ΰ") decomposition
      ))

so this should now work. Itʼs also customizable via
'char-fold-include' and 'char-fold-exclude'.

Robert

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 25 Dec 2020 12:24:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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25.3; char-fold-search match for German eszett (ß)