GNU bug report logs - #30883
27.0.50; completions-annotations face should not be based on italic by default

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Reported by: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:17:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Found in version 27.0.50

Fixed in version 28.1

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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bug#30883; Package emacs. (Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:17:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50;
 completions-annotations face should not be based on italic by default
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:16:37 +0100
When using insert-char interactively to insert т (CYRILLIC SMALL
LETTER TE), the completions buffer uses the completions-annotations
face to display the character after the full unicode name. т is one of
those characters for which the italic glyph is very different from the
non-italic one (it actually looks like an 'm'), which is highly
misleading for the user.

The easy solution would be to just base the completions-annotations
face on the default face, but Iʼm sure thereʼs a historical reason for
its existence.

In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 27, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
 of 2018-03-19 built on rpluim-ubuntu
Repository revision: 2dd2251ce5c676f64bfed3cd56d4746213e75583
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000
System Description: KDE neon LTS User Edition 5.12




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Message #6 received at 30883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 30883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30883: 27.0.50;
 completions-annotations face should not be based on italic by default
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:35:23 +0200
> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:16:37 +0100
> 
> When using insert-char interactively to insert т (CYRILLIC SMALL
> LETTER TE), the completions buffer uses the completions-annotations
> face to display the character after the full unicode name. т is one of
> those characters for which the italic glyph is very different from the
> non-italic one (it actually looks like an 'm'), which is highly
> misleading for the user.

I guess it depends on the default font, because on my system the
italic glyph looks very reasonably similar to the roman variant.

> The easy solution would be to just base the completions-annotations
> face on the default face, but Iʼm sure thereʼs a historical reason for
> its existence.

FWIW, I happen to like the typeface we use there, so I think we should
go to a more boring display only if we have a very good reason.

Thanks.




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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 30883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30883: 27.0.50;
 completions-annotations face should not be based on italic by default
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:37:49 +0100
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:16:37 +0100
>> 
>> When using insert-char interactively to insert т (CYRILLIC SMALL
>> LETTER TE), the completions buffer uses the completions-annotations
>> face to display the character after the full unicode name. т is one of
>> those characters for which the italic glyph is very different from the
>> non-italic one (it actually looks like an 'm'), which is highly
>> misleading for the user.
>
> I guess it depends on the default font, because on my system the
> italic glyph looks very reasonably similar to the roman variant.

It does. The following monospace fonts on my system display it as a
slanted 'm': Inconsolata, Libertine, Noto Sans UI, Ubuntu Mono. The
others display it as a slanted т, which is arguably incorrect, but
they outnumber those four by approximately 2:1

>> The easy solution would be to just base the completions-annotations
>> face on the default face, but Iʼm sure thereʼs a historical reason for
>> its existence.
>
> FWIW, I happen to like the typeface we use there, so I think we should
> go to a more boring display only if we have a very good reason.

I donʼt think we have a good reason. Iʼll customise
completions-annotations.


Robert




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Message #12 received at 30883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 30883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30883: 27.0.50; completions-annotations face should not be
 based on italic by default
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 16:33:06 +0200
Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> writes:

> When using insert-char interactively to insert т (CYRILLIC SMALL
> LETTER TE), the completions buffer uses the completions-annotations
> face to display the character after the full unicode name.

This has been changed in Emacs 28 -- the character is displayed at the
start of the line in *completions*, and it's not italic.  (But I see the
problem in Emacs 27.1.)

So I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
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bug marked as fixed in version 28.1, send any further explanations to 30883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:34:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 24 Jul 2021 11:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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