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This came up again recently, compare the discussion here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-06/msg00186.html
Here=E2=80=99s some code to wrap an executable manually to capture its =
output
and send it to syslog:
(define* (logger-wrapper name exec . args)
"Return a derivation that builds a script to start a process with
standard output and error redirected to syslog via logger."
(define exp
#~(begin
(use-modules (ice-9 popen))
(let* ((pid (number->string (getpid)))
(logger #$(file-append inetutils "/bin/logger"))
(args (list "-t" #$name (string-append "--id=3D" pid)))
(pipe (apply open-pipe* OPEN_WRITE logger args)))
(dup pipe 1)
(dup pipe 2)
(execl #$exec #$exec #$@args))))
(program-file (string-append name "-logger") exp))
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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
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Subject: Re: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into
well-known location and not tty
References: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala>
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ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:
> ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> Sometimes I succeed building a system generation with an OpenSMTPD confi=
g-file
>> which has syntax error that aren't picked up at configure time. When I r=
eboot,
>> not being aware of this, I have to switch to tty to read the reasons why=
it
>> crashed.
>> Because this is a desktop system, I have to start the service again to s=
ee
>> the error output directly from the daemon.
>
> I think shepherd could capture stdout/stderr of the processes it starts
> and make it available, in a way similar in spirit to what =E2=80=98journa=
lctl=E2=80=99
> does. That would allow you to see the output of the daemon that failed.
This would be very helpful.
Mark
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Full text available.Received: (at 30939) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2018 09:15:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 27 05:15:15 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55186 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f0khG-0004vH-Ky for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 05:15:14 -0400 Received: from static.195.114.201.195.clients.your-server.de ([195.201.114.195]:54248 helo=conspiracy.of.n0.is) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ng0@HIDDEN>) id 1f0khE-0004v4-LT for 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 05:15:13 -0400 Received: by conspiracy.of.n0.is (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id df018a85 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:15:29 +0000 From: ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into well-known location and not tty Message-ID: <20180327091529.pcju57bro2snuxtb@abyayala> References: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala> <87a7uvdke0.fsf@HIDDEN> <20180326150859.6yf244bgjxi4oawt@abyayala> <87o9jaynpn.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87o9jaynpn.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30939 Cc: 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Ludovic Courtès transcribed 839 bytes: > Hello, > > ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> skribis: > > > Sometimes I succeed building a system generation with an OpenSMTPD config-file > > which has syntax error that aren't picked up at configure time. When I reboot, > > not being aware of this, I have to switch to tty to read the reasons why it > > crashed. > > Because this is a desktop system, I have to start the service again to see > > the error output directly from the daemon. > > I think shepherd could capture stdout/stderr of the processes it starts > and make it available, in a way similar in spirit to what ‘journalctl’ > does. That would allow you to see the output of the daemon that failed. That sounds good. > That’s the only solution I can think of. Of course we don’t have to do > that if the daemon writes error messages to syslog, but not all of them do. > > Thanks, > Ludo’. Well, just a way to catch them would be good. Thanks
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Full text available.Received: (at 30939) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2018 07:36:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 27 03:36:24 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f0j9c-0000e6-Fk for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:36:24 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:48302) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1f0j9b-0000dy-2U for 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:36:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DC512506; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:36:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gnvHsaE6wYCQ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ribbon (vpn-0-27.aquilenet.fr [IPv6:2a0c:e300:4:27::]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C0C8123A9; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:36:21 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into well-known location and not tty References: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala> <87a7uvdke0.fsf@HIDDEN> <20180326150859.6yf244bgjxi4oawt@abyayala> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 7 Germinal an 226 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:36:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20180326150859.6yf244bgjxi4oawt@abyayala> (ng0@HIDDEN's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:10:36 +0000") Message-ID: <87o9jaynpn.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30939 Cc: 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello, ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> skribis: > Sometimes I succeed building a system generation with an OpenSMTPD config= -file > which has syntax error that aren't picked up at configure time. When I re= boot, > not being aware of this, I have to switch to tty to read the reasons why = it > crashed. > Because this is a desktop system, I have to start the service again to see > the error output directly from the daemon. I think shepherd could capture stdout/stderr of the processes it starts and make it available, in a way similar in spirit to what =E2=80=98journalc= tl=E2=80=99 does. That would allow you to see the output of the daemon that failed. That=E2=80=99s the only solution I can think of. Of course we don=E2=80=99= t have to do that if the daemon writes error messages to syslog, but not all of them do. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Full text available.Received: (at 30939) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2018 15:10:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 26 11:10:27 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f0TlT-0000q3-92 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:10:27 -0400 Received: from static.195.114.201.195.clients.your-server.de ([195.201.114.195]:54152 helo=conspiracy.of.n0.is) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ng0@HIDDEN>) id 1f0TlO-0000pr-Th for 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:10:24 -0400 Received: by conspiracy.of.n0.is (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5c507145 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:10:36 +0000 From: ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into well-known location and not tty Message-ID: <20180326150859.6yf244bgjxi4oawt@abyayala> References: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala> <87a7uvdke0.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87a7uvdke0.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30939 Cc: 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Courtès transcribed 790 bytes: > Hi ng0, > > ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> skribis: > > > Problem, not just when a service is misbehaving after successful system reconfigure: > > > > $ sudo herd start smtpd > > Password: > > Service smtpd could not be started. > > herd: failed to start service smtpd > > > > > > > > This is on virtual terminal in X11, as well as in /var/log/messages, > > /var/log/shepherd.log, etc. > > This is not enough. If I wanted more info, I'd expect that > > sudo herd status smtpd would give it (which it does not), so the only > > reliable source of information so far is tty 1. Can we fix that in > > one of the next shepherd releases? Or is this something we have to > > fix in Guix? > > So you’re saying that you’d like shepherd to show more info as to why > the service could not be started, right? > > Thanks, > Ludo’. Must have been late and too many failed attempts at what I'm trying to do. Yes. So I can't make any daemons I run out there fail, but for the current case I have in Guix for this: Sometimes I succeed building a system generation with an OpenSMTPD config-file which has syntax error that aren't picked up at configure time. When I reboot, not being aware of this, I have to switch to tty to read the reasons why it crashed. Because this is a desktop system, I have to start the service again to see the error output directly from the daemon. I think I know why this happens (that the output goes to tty), but nevertheless it would be good if shepherd were more capable than beint captain obvious: Start: "Oh, you see it is started". Crashed: "Oh, no has your daemon crashed?", like it is now. .... Okay, I just looked at some other daemon controls I run, and maybe it's good that shepherd is limited in its output. It does this one job. What I'd like to have as a sysadmin is the ability to tail something like say /var/log/shepherd.fail.log and services which are failing log into this file (or a set of files in /var/log/shepherd/ in files like $daemonname.fail.log). Given the absence of the kitchensink of tools in systemd, you got used to something like "status" and immediate "HELLO! This is why I failed: (5 lines)". With shepherd, you can't even grep for the failures in locations newcomers to the system would assume (like: /var/log/shepherd.log (it is the daemon control application)). Long store short, greping for failures to fix daemon configurations and not having to look at tty 1 (which can be noisy depending on what you run, I have some notorious tty spammers) would be good. And not sacrifice the simplicity of Shepherd :)
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Full text available.Received: (at 30939) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2018 13:41:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 26 09:41:31 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53757 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f0SNP-0006st-J6 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:41:31 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:41016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1f0SNN-0006sj-BG for 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:41:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA21E12356; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:41:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZStRgf7C_J8U; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:41:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.93]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2E991095F; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:41:27 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into well-known location and not tty References: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 6 Germinal an 226 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:41:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala> (ng0@HIDDEN's message of "Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:35:55 +0000") Message-ID: <87a7uvdke0.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30939 Cc: 30939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hi ng0, ng0 <ng0@HIDDEN> skribis: > Problem, not just when a service is misbehaving after successful system r= econfigure: > > $ sudo herd start smtpd > Password:=20 > Service smtpd could not be started. > herd: failed to start service smtpd > > > > This is on virtual terminal in X11, as well as in /var/log/messages, > /var/log/shepherd.log, etc. > This is not enough. If I wanted more info, I'd expect that > sudo herd status smtpd would give it (which it does not), so the only > reliable source of information so far is tty 1. Can we fix that in > one of the next shepherd releases? Or is this something we have to > fix in Guix? So you=E2=80=99re saying that you=E2=80=99d like shepherd to show more info= as to why the service could not be started, right? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
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