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Full text available.Received: (at 31150) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2024 20:40:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 06 15:40:25 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rhy3s-00070m-Jh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 15:40:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1rhy3q-00070M-Ej for 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 15:40:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1rhy3F-0003XT-Iy; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 15:39:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=fiYvcISXew0NTYiI312hWiIVeFloN563LuUGwjgYI8Y=; b=sXaQaUcZd1Bsqz+5IISj v34M1PJZJYcVetew85PNEZAcV/zWtRD6cvAGtDqjAvgd4x/I6sRCU00j6vx2RUc1EebLR/l53aRse 7C1ST/3q3KlkOoeN/sCoT1wEX3LJXPF7gl0N0ZuAaFBxrFNUiXhGsrhBdeJ5K1ydbaURE9KdyH4q/ e2J00Vgn3QLTO+NvMYtrfxLKRDizsrj4iy3TfB9gOzn8/nxKOO7A2+73VYGPEcmcDAYoaJ1JXl3/h XYP5l3B2C8y5mtfeC1fYrp+/CZp62i4La0uLf35KId01H8WEOCvqDG2ewVOXJzLet8e1aBtr5PAwM /hpU6TZ0phZL4Q==; From: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> To: "emacs-bugs" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#31150: Entries in load-path should not have trailing slashes In-Reply-To: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> (Radon Rosborough's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:27:24 -0700") References: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 21:39:42 +0100 Message-ID: <m2wmqf2iy9.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31150 Cc: 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Radon Rosborough <radon@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi all, I'm forwarding a report from straight.el author originally submitted to AUCTeX. In short, AUCTeX adds directories to `load-path' with a trailing slash, which is tolerated: ,----[ C-h v load-path RET ] | load-path is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99. |=20 | Its value is shown below. |=20 | List of directories to search for files to load. | Each element is a string (directory file name) or nil (meaning | =E2=80=98default-directory=E2=80=99). | This list is consulted by the =E2=80=98require=E2=80=99 function. | Initialized during startup as described in Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Libr= ary Search=E2=80=99. | Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this path.= However, Lisp | programs that process this list should tolerate directories both with | and without trailing slashes. `---- and it seems that `find-library' can't handle "/foo/bar" and "/foo/bar/" in `load-path' (see below). I don't use straight.el and don't have a recipe to reproduce this, maybe you can catch up on this with Radon. TIA. Best, Arash Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes: > When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get the following > code as part of tex-site.el: > > (defvar TeX-lisp-directory > (expand-file-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name)) > "The directory where most of the AUCTeX lisp files are located. > For the location of lisp files associated with > styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated lisp) and > TeX-auto-* (automatically generated lisp).") > > (add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory) > > This is problematic. As the documentation for `load-path' states: > > Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this p= ath. > > But `TeX-lisp-directory' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug > to me. Can it be fixed? > > The reason this came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager, > straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory > to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specified by the > documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCTeX insists on also adding > its own entry to `load-path', and does so with a superfluous trailing > slash, we end up with two duplicate entries. Under some > configurations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M-x > find-library. > > Best regards, > Radon Rosborough
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
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In short, AUCTeX adds directories to `load-path' with a trailing slash, which is tolerated: ,----[ C-h v load-path RET ] | load-path is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99. |=20 | Its value is shown below. |=20 | List of directories to search for files to load. | Each element is a string (directory file name) or nil (meaning | =E2=80=98default-directory=E2=80=99). | This list is consulted by the =E2=80=98require=E2=80=99 function. | Initialized during startup as described in Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Libr= ary Search=E2=80=99. | Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this path.= However, Lisp | programs that process this list should tolerate directories both with | and without trailing slashes. `---- and it seems that `find-library' can't handle "/foo/bar" and "/foo/bar/" in `load-path' (see below). I don't use straight.el and don't have a recipe to reproduce this, maybe you can catch up on this with Radon. TIA. Best, Arash Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes: > When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get the following > code as part of tex-site.el: > > (defvar TeX-lisp-directory > (expand-file-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name)) > "The directory where most of the AUCTeX lisp files are located. > For the location of lisp files associated with > styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated lisp) and > TeX-auto-* (automatically generated lisp).") > > (add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory) > > This is problematic. As the documentation for `load-path' states: > > Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this p= ath. > > But `TeX-lisp-directory' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug > to me. Can it be fixed? > > The reason this came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager, > straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory > to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specified by the > documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCTeX insists on also adding > its own entry to `load-path', and does so with a superfluous trailing > slash, we end up with two duplicate entries. Under some > configurations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M-x > find-library. > > Best regards, > Radon Rosborough
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
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I guess it can be considered an Emacs bug, yes.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, at 1:15 AM, Arash Esbati wrote:
> Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
> > When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get the following
> > code as part of tex-site.el:
> >
> > (defvar TeX-lisp-directory
> > (expand-file-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name=
))
> > "The directory where most of the AUCTeX lisp files are located.
> > For the location of lisp files associated with
> > styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated lisp) and
> > TeX-auto-* (automatically generated lisp).")
> >
> > (add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory)
> >
> > This is problematic. As the documentation for `load-path' states:
> >
> > Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to t=
his path.
> >
> > But `TeX-lisp-directory' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug
> > to me. Can it be fixed?
> >
> > The reason this came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager,
> > straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory
> > to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specified by the
> > documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCTeX insists on also adding
> > its own entry to `load-path', and does so with a superfluous trailing
> > slash, we end up with two duplicate entries. Under some
> > configurations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M=
-x
> > find-library.
>=20
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
> at the time.)
>=20
> Is this issue still present? Looking at the docstring:
>=20
> ,----[ C-h v load-path RET ]
> | load-path is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99.
> |=20
> | Its value is shown below.
> |=20
> | List of directories to search for files to load.
> | Each element is a string (directory file name) or nil (meaning
> | =E2=80=98default-directory=E2=80=99).
> | This list is consulted by the =E2=80=98require=E2=80=99 function.
> | Initialized during startup as described in Info node =E2=80=98(elisp=
)Library Search=E2=80=99.
> | Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this =
path. However, Lisp
> | programs that process this list should tolerate directories both with
> | and without trailing slashes.
> |=20
> | This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable.
> | Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 1.12.
> |=20
> `----
>=20
> You're correct about `directory-file-name', but the version with
> trailing slash is also tolerated. If `find-library' is confused by
> "/foo/bar" and "/foo/bar/", isn't this more an Emacs issue?
>=20
> Best, Arash
>=20
> P.S. I also added another mail address of yours to this message. Sorry
> if you get this message twice.
>=20
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type=3D"text/css">p.Mso=
Normal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>I guess it can =
be considered an Emacs bug, yes.</div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Mar 6,=
2024, at 1:15 AM, Arash Esbati wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div>Radon Rosborough <<a href=3D"mailto:radon=
.neon@HIDDEN">radon.neon@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>> When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get t=
he following<br></div><div>> code as part of tex-site.el:<br></div><d=
iv>><br></div><div>> (defvar TeX-lisp-dire=
ctory<br></div><div>> (expand-fil=
e-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name))<br></div><div>>=
"The directory where most of the AU=
CTeX lisp files are located.<br></div><div>> =
For the location of lisp files associated with<br></div><div>> &=
nbsp; styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated =
lisp) and<br></div><div>> TeX-auto-* (automat=
ically generated lisp).")<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> &nb=
sp; (add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory)<br></div><di=
v>><br></div><div>> This is problematic. As the documentation for =
`load-path' states:<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> &nb=
sp; Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to=
this path.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> But `TeX-lisp-director=
y' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug<br></div><div>> to me.=
Can it be fixed?<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> The reason this =
came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager,<br></div><div>> =
straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory<br=
></div><div>> to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specifie=
d by the<br></div><div>> documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCT=
eX insists on also adding<br></div><div>> its own entry to `load-path=
', and does so with a superfluous trailing<br></div><div>> slash, we =
end up with two duplicate entries. Under some<br></div><div>> configu=
rations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M-x<br></div=
><div>> find-library.<br></div><div><br></div><div>(I'm going through=
old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved<br></div><div>at th=
e time.)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Is this issue still present? =
Looking at the docstring:<br></div><div><br></div><div>,----[ C-h v loa=
d-path RET ]<br></div><div>| load-path is a variable defined in =E2=80=98=
C source code=E2=80=99.<br></div><div>| <br></div><div>| Its value =
is shown below.<br></div><div>| <br></div><div>| List of directorie=
s to search for files to load.<br></div><div>| Each element is a string =
(directory file name) or nil (meaning<br></div><div>| =E2=80=98default-d=
irectory=E2=80=99).<br></div><div>| This list is consulted by the =E2=80=
=98require=E2=80=99 function.<br></div><div>| Initialized during startup=
as described in Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Library Search=E2=80=99.<br><=
/div><div>| Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items =
to this path. However, Lisp<br></div><div>| programs that process =
this list should tolerate directories both with<br></div><div>| and with=
out trailing slashes.<br></div><div>| <br></div><div>| =
This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable.<br></div><d=
iv>| Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 1.12.<br=
></div><div>| <br></div><div>`----<br></div><div><br></div><div>You=
're correct about `directory-file-name', but the version with<br></div><=
div>trailing slash is also tolerated. If `find-library' is confuse=
d by<br></div><div>"/foo/bar" and "/foo/bar/", isn't this more an Emacs =
issue?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best, Arash<br></div><div><br></div>=
<div>P.S. I also added another mail address of yours to this message.&nb=
sp; Sorry<br></div><div>if you get this message twice.<br></div><div><br=
></div></blockquote></body></html>
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bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
Full text available.Received: (at 31150) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2024 09:17:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 06 04:17:12 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rhnOf-0005EO-El for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 04:17:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1rhnOP-0005Db-1b for 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 04:17:08 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1rhnNm-0000Yp-Un; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 04:16:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=I39OqM0ANZYWsYiLHIyBP3LVK0raI6uQbbR25q5oUjE=; b=iTZliW89vI0TkV1kOm7R r4aTh4gFTMAWNUJbJ+vMEgoY4sCxzAqch1op7oGaOwl8jsJiebWsFWkPOU60STdXLwZTdGvTuaHZd iLyovVOFDCSifbo/HFWVxLybEB/oyVqVNzNFpSc0HCtggdQoIXy9OfWMvVfI/Prq1O7gc2YTBMq3V qasbcIGkDYdfG/lLXUvH5cU/5shTzApAArwUiP7ysful4l51j9wRkCIdhqA8Ju7fQlqZw8agccrab 9D8iJ33KmYauyh0wxzo4TVhOCEa+nhaZfaTBEtp0yrbcvjk0YOHJzyDgq46Epa9GDdYmc6LXUHKaS 9nByrCTRLf5Zmw==; From: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> To: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN>, Radian LLC <contact+straight@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#31150: Entries in load-path should not have trailing slashes In-Reply-To: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> (Radon Rosborough's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:27:24 -0700") References: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 10:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: <m2a5nb201p.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31150 Cc: 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes: > When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get the following > code as part of tex-site.el: > > (defvar TeX-lisp-directory > (expand-file-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name)) > "The directory where most of the AUCTeX lisp files are located. > For the location of lisp files associated with > styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated lisp) and > TeX-auto-* (automatically generated lisp).") > > (add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory) > > This is problematic. As the documentation for `load-path' states: > > Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this p= ath. > > But `TeX-lisp-directory' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug > to me. Can it be fixed? > > The reason this came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager, > straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory > to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specified by the > documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCTeX insists on also adding > its own entry to `load-path', and does so with a superfluous trailing > slash, we end up with two duplicate entries. Under some > configurations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M-x > find-library. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) Is this issue still present? Looking at the docstring: ,----[ C-h v load-path RET ] | load-path is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99. |=20 | Its value is shown below. |=20 | List of directories to search for files to load. | Each element is a string (directory file name) or nil (meaning | =E2=80=98default-directory=E2=80=99). | This list is consulted by the =E2=80=98require=E2=80=99 function. | Initialized during startup as described in Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Libr= ary Search=E2=80=99. | Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this path.= However, Lisp | programs that process this list should tolerate directories both with | and without trailing slashes. |=20 | This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable. | Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 1.12. |=20 `---- You're correct about `directory-file-name', but the version with trailing slash is also tolerated. If `find-library' is confused by "/foo/bar" and "/foo/bar/", isn't this more an Emacs issue? Best, Arash P.S. I also added another mail address of yours to this message. Sorry if you get this message twice.
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
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The internet is a great thing because it allows you to communicate with everybody in the world. But it's also the cause of many problems which are avoidable if poeple simply meet physically as we did when I was young. I know David very well and can assure you that the least thing he had in mind is to insult you. Don't worry if his mails sound quite harsh. I'm looking forward to meet you both at BachoTeX-2018. Regards, Reinhard -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha@HIDDEN ------------------------------------------------------------------
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
Full text available.Received: (at 31150) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 04:21:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 15 00:21:40 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52954 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f7ZAZ-0005p1-Pz for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:21:39 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:48199) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <reinhard.kotucha@HIDDEN>) id 1f7ZAX-0005on-SZ for 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:21:38 -0400 Received: from vhost ([88.130.80.116]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSJGB-1f0f8T47Yp-00TYED; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:21:31 +0200 From: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard.kotucha@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23250.54090.23775.731281@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:21:30 +0200 To: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#31150: Entries in load-path should not have trailing slashes In-Reply-To: <CADB4rJFz=3EC_4sO2d701GMdtYYEFFuv_-xsU5_EqGOptdRHqA@HIDDEN> References: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> <87fu3yrmjk.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADB4rJGKidUkTeHMbfZ=Yxi0nDFYK2qyw+Lz5_55VdGAUHiAsQ@HIDDEN> <874lkdzo7a.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADB4rJFz=3EC_4sO2d701GMdtYYEFFuv_-xsU5_EqGOptdRHqA@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 25.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TTBG9aq7h7AY+oANaCcybIl4SpHtXbXvv3UouP4nmeKJc3YWagf BMl1Het8uj/xrSSgeuxPx+BFaQ7IvJpv+dZJ4UG5UFX1Xu14Jf1/UGsrPM0MG6og8PliNJm RFI7v91N8SSRtC/pKUJgihu+uskvKhbKuqET02JTUewF7kqXnx0JxDXm67FXb4F84Sqk38F tGz/eB3xpggXSBSUhNR4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mdMpbF3xv60=:75NIRgyKQidCFbOzxhNmTB Xmk2fcMuvnFmL+KFS6ScQOhWyNRotiw5bxtBY+i9x6ewhyMuaKPKT1eTXd/a4Gs5/XsAs7bit zYzh81AE4jtOX/dIK+7gDTD2wsSV/BAtt3KhCb4BMNVAFyZLB+EW+GqOANH1ehTgkP1l70Kta IbwkYcSktuWC9G9Hu9oDGOvLjC1k+nkJSAv25IForTGrytALB0AHYcNwFg31P24Jc6FMP5kGo KjMmGSdAVMdacbWR35l7WETniiKgdOJx6hdL2nOgVAV+ow68LS0sw+MudbGrmm3OsYAacKkEx YGXBYDAcDne4T1mIeZyvtruE292EMidOjgNpxtGcolnC447nMrhW8vVVBnxYqr7gK4Kyk8Wu/ 5svyY5az2KA6fVN0gHc28KgOORIavZJqf7Ny6EAqODUt/mbWjXydNKZdzwtwj62ZadxiafvRF mwMJgPoZrM3qwTZ3TV6crvxp9gtVGiXOCk47j/4oJJl20PHSZbDNhMvy3oSb3H1+fLouLGAz3 xYJ/r2ocNZPx4afMCfPPEqYMNNPwEi/k8kSdq9qMu4bWrx1E7fQ3ugxKCsDVwmFzwucr6a0eO 6lhYigCx/lcoRsGlf+Hmzr2B4OrICosOqIC6sFj608X5wmHuwprQlqT6QrG9hm6AD9y2Uu2n2 RNrSwkyhkT67VLgoZoCIGn0U1/Top5bqxE5AOjGVK8zXTlpUARKSlutyinFtPqs95z60nOwvx EhXtrZh/NTMqGDJSmaO+abaSDwA9JKD82/nJbg4DsZZjXaUCknF0j7V9XTMsTZ/oxrDovq/8w APZUjX+KHa+jRdX2u4AFT6TQ/XH0NU//Si2Pp1iuyJe7ielYUA= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31150 Cc: David Kastrup <dak@HIDDEN>, 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: reinhard.kotucha@HIDDEN Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 2018-04-14 at 14:41:52 -0700, Radon Rosborough wrote: > Most people use search engines to find documentation these days. > That's not a value judgement; it's just a statement of fact. Dear Radon, it's true that most poeple use search engines nowadays but it's actually the worst thing one can do. The quality of the results is quite arbitrary. In most cases saerch engines return old stuff which isn't relevant anymore or wrong answers from poeple who just believe that they groked something. A definite answer is and can only be provided by the documentation shipped with a particular package. Everything else is less helpful or not helpful at all. Regards, Reinhard -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha@HIDDEN ------------------------------------------------------------------
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
Full text available.Received: (at 31150) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 04:02:16 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 15 00:02:16 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52948 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f7Yro-0005Ox-55 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:02:16 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f43.google.com ([209.85.215.43]:33777) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <radon.neon@HIDDEN>) id 1f7Yrn-0005Ok-2A for 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:02:15 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f43.google.com with SMTP id m14-v6so5504311lfc.0 for <31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:02:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=y2s9A8z00R1A8ItFA/kafCtxCTTLLdGY/FHN4+/cYd8=; b=jHxbad0rL7l+4Ni3Q9WhEpxc5HV/91boEwc3dQhB7jAUtCuVp7k1H4nPP3NQpeHUlF 7YTGp6u9c5V0Zui8aJsIeZvwfTXMTR99W4DRCdSY/LBhpmd9oleFwVE4FFcHfRexXJJw rgJpaKPNPW6gOz/vCtb9cuP5vWwah2+e/IdQ4uVUW0wfzJ9Dz56qwNbIMw5XBsq6h0nr ODMEuQlm8gow6rUoNN2zkbHHNIrgzZ9ewFgCT3gsBjXTl48tl+WDkPw3RFuifTCUrhJw FIfhgLqrAU0ne0z6RS7oagk69A3ockb87SNaDmyemhssjePJuSEVl048xZQaLu+vaTqF TWqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=y2s9A8z00R1A8ItFA/kafCtxCTTLLdGY/FHN4+/cYd8=; b=LZTR0dH7mZADZxiNF7j+2GupqB6K/lamidzJjzl+lcTRatfHseI8/fhufJ3dsSwpvH TzCGm9/GBCpYBvu+mGrFJkVOCBvJXC9naes8tNbFD3kM6Aoh7VkW0R7XjYS2p7j6rGVu CfqudsX+Gb40Tm60bCUx89sqLTWztuLst8F7kd46b/mQfWs44prlowpto4ux6IIJXIAY jetFrWcv+lKkSBRIwlzr2914GThuYd05CXwXEUsiHA8TUbb9IRgHjgVocnp3HvcE+tLa CYCYEUPqDp4X0WCWSfi7jZ0b/H/xFjLz5jv9sIryDfnBy3GNMx237ukXemOHrfeKyaaX FlcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tC/n5/kvrdH9lCBVsL5e1sZAGjs6+ZOWAzKJcEbS3KCf1bF4mMC jjzLuwLbdZHAk2+gDIpPRQSD+2Nfh0WRk4DMDRo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/woHZ1I/v+1JWED0tGLniU027JrbA3TLOi7Mu2MC3HKLKF6X3JaXdfjtl/U0Dd4wPxAKiCiukyMLgB9uEk8z0= X-Received: by 2002:a19:7904:: with SMTP id u4-v6mr12080185lfc.129.1523764928849; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:02:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a19:6514:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:01:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87muy5xx1a.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> <87fu3yrmjk.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADB4rJGKidUkTeHMbfZ=Yxi0nDFYK2qyw+Lz5_55VdGAUHiAsQ@HIDDEN> <874lkdzo7a.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADB4rJFz=3EC_4sO2d701GMdtYYEFFuv_-xsU5_EqGOptdRHqA@HIDDEN> <87muy5xx1a.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:01:28 -0700 Message-ID: <CADB4rJGaru6Kng8=oe2E2vW1t_mfYOMYCikT9fJRSEFd7SLHvQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#31150: Entries in load-path should not have trailing slashes To: David Kastrup <dak@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31150 Cc: 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > For crying out loud, one does not have to look in the "sources of > this" package or use "Google" searches. > Perhaps some minimal trust in the package authors would be in order. > How about reading the documentation of load-path? > it takes an extraordinary amount of chutzpah to blame the package > authors when the results are crap. Basically you think the package > authors too stupid to create useful documentation > Sorry, go and cry to Google that their algorithms are too stupid to > pick up the standard documentation of packages then. It does not seem productive for us to continue this discussion further, and I am not particularly interested in continuing to be insulted. I will not reply to further messages along the above lines. Let me know if you require any more information relevant to the bug report. Best regards, Radon
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
Full text available.Received: (at 31150) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2018 22:07:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 14 18:07:19 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1f7TKG-0005nG-7Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:07:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <dak@HIDDEN>) id 1f7TKE-0005n4-In for 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:07:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <dak@HIDDEN>) id 1f7TK6-0002Xx-DH for 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:07:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <dak@HIDDEN>) id 1f7TK6-0002Xr-9E; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:07:06 -0400 Received: from x4db623d2.dyn.telefonica.de ([77.182.35.210]:54674 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <dak@HIDDEN>) id 1f7TK5-0004Mh-Sk; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:07:06 -0400 From: David Kastrup <dak@HIDDEN> To: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#31150: Entries in load-path should not have trailing slashes References: <CADB4rJGrKTe9CgfK9q_25LUtdY1zO2PRiRRC9xg-=7H-XQ+FyA@HIDDEN> <87fu3yrmjk.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADB4rJGKidUkTeHMbfZ=Yxi0nDFYK2qyw+Lz5_55VdGAUHiAsQ@HIDDEN> <874lkdzo7a.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADB4rJFz=3EC_4sO2d701GMdtYYEFFuv_-xsU5_EqGOptdRHqA@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:06:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CADB4rJFz=3EC_4sO2d701GMdtYYEFFuv_-xsU5_EqGOptdRHqA@HIDDEN> (Radon Rosborough's message of "Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:41:52 -0700") Message-ID: <87muy5xx1a.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31150 Cc: 31150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes: >> For crying out loud, one does not have to look in the "sources of >> this" package or use "Google" searches. The package has >> documentation. > > Most people use search engines to find documentation these days. But it takes an extraordinary amount of chutzpah to blame the package authors when the results are crap. Basically you think the package authors too stupid to create useful documentation and instead ask the next person on the street. And then you blame the package author for not talking to enough persons on the street to render this hearsay useful. > That's not a value judgement; it's just a statement of fact. > >> The documentation is available in the usual places (Info) > > Info is not as standard as you make it out to be. Info is the standard information format for Elisp packages. And complaining about lack of documentation and bug reporting instructions when both are in the package's top level menu structure also is not exactly a sign that the package authors are to blame. > That is true, but the vast majority of packages do not contain any > such menu entries. Furthermore, many users do not use the Emacs menus. Users who don't use the menus and don't read the delivered documentation then complain that the package authors should do more search engine optimization. Sorry, go and cry to Google that their algorithms are too stupid to pick up the standard documentation of packages then. -- David Kastrup
bug-auctex@HIDDEN:bug#31150; Package auctex.
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The package has > documentation. Most people use search engines to find documentation these days. That's not a value judgement; it's just a statement of fact. > The documentation is available in the usual places (Info) Info is not as standard as you make it out to be. I investigated the 486 packages that I have installed, and found that 297 of them have at least minimal documentation hosted on GitHub in the form of a README.md, while only 26 of them include any Info documentation. > The menus of the package also contain an entry for submitting bug > reports. That is true, but the vast majority of packages do not contain any such menu entries. Furthermore, many users do not use the Emacs menus. > However, Lisp programs that process this list should tolerate > directories both with and without trailing slashes. [...] as a > package manager, your code _certainly_ should adhere to the > instructions in load-path documentation. My package manager does not exactly fall under the rubric of "Lisp programs that process this list". It does not do any processing, really; it just adds an entry. If that is counted as processing, then every time any Lisp program adds anything to `load-path', it should be checking to make sure there is not a duplicate entry with a trailing slash. Since nobody does that, I inferred that it doesn't make much sense in this case either. --- Looking at the summary page for the bug-auctex list, I see that it does indeed mention M-x TeX-submit-bug-report, so it was a mistake for me to say that it didn't. Sorry about that. --- Best regards, Radon Rosborough
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Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes:
>> I see in the sources of this package the following address to submit
>> bug reports
>
> I did several Google searches along the lines of "auctex bug tracker",
> and did not find this command. Perhaps some SEO would be in order.
For crying out loud, one does not have to look in the "sources of this"
package or use "Google" searches. The package has documentation. The
documentation is available in the usual places (Info) and also in the
menus of the package (like in the LaTeX menu).
The menus of the package also contain an entry for submitting bug
reports.
Perhaps some minimal trust in the package authors would be in order.
> Thanks, I might consider this. (straight.el supports Windows, so I
> would need to generalize your patch to use the OS-independent path
> manipulation functions.) For now, however, I think I'll leave things
> be, since out of the ~114 packages I use, only AUCTeX and Geiser had
> this problem (and it should really be fixed upstream).
How about reading the documentation of load-path?
load-path is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99.
Its value is
[...]
Initialized during startup as described in Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Li=
brary Search=E2=80=99.
Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this pat=
h. However, Lisp
programs that process this list should tolerate directories both with
and without trailing slashes.
I repeat:
However, Lisp programs that process this list should tolerate
directories both with and without trailing slashes.
And there is good reason for that: XEmacs used to do things differently
(and wasn't tolerant about it as opposed to Emacs if I remember
correctly) and thus many packages used that behavior. XEmacs may be
mostly history, but many packages are historic as well. It's good to
remind AUCTeX that it can adapt to standard behavior now, but as a
package manager, your code _certainly_ should adhere to the instructions
in load-path documentation.
--=20
David Kastrup
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From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN>
To: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#31150: Entries in load-path should not have trailing slashes
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Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN> writes:
> When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get the following
> code as part of tex-site.el:
>
> (defvar TeX-lisp-directory
> (expand-file-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name))
> "The directory where most of the AUCTeX lisp files are located.
> For the location of lisp files associated with
> styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated lisp) and
> TeX-auto-* (automatically generated lisp).")
>
> (add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory)
>
> This is problematic. As the documentation for `load-path' states:
>
> Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this p=
ath.
>
> But `TeX-lisp-directory' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug
> to me. Can it be fixed?
Thank you for the report.
I see in the sources of this package the following address to submit bug
reports: bug-auctex@HIDDEN (`TeX-submit-bug-report').
> The reason this came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager,
> straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory
> to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specified by the
> documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCTeX insists on also adding
> its own entry to `load-path', and does so with a superfluous trailing
> slash, we end up with two duplicate entries. Under some
> configurations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M-x
> find-library.
You could find this problem again with other packages in the future.
Maybe it's good idea to add some defensive code, for instance:
--8<-----------------------------cut here---------------start------------->=
8---
commit 3e1e25c888a28971d818d82270ce1116feb6fb75
Author: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN>
Date: Sat Apr 14 21:35:49 2018 +0900
Prevent from adding a dir with trailing slashes into load-path
=20=20=20=20
(straight--drop-trailing-slashes-from-load-path): New defun.
(straight--add-package-to-load-path): Use it.
diff --git a/straight.el b/straight.el
index 3459057..e62a590 100644
--- a/straight.el
+++ b/straight.el
@@ -3300,12 +3300,25 @@ the reason this package is being built."
=20
;;;; Loading packages
=20
+(defun straight--drop-trailing-slashes-from-load-path ()
+ "Return a copy of `load-path' with stripped trailing slashes.
+For instance, change the directory `/foo/bar/' into `/foo/bar'."
+ (delete-dups
+ (mapcar
+ (lambda (dir)
+ (let ((len (length dir)))
+ (while (and (> len 0) (eq ?/ (aref dir (1- len))))
+ (setq dir (substring dir 0 -1)
+ len (1- len)))
+ dir)) load-path)))
+
(defun straight--add-package-to-load-path (recipe)
"Add the package specified by RECIPE to the `load-path'.
RECIPE is a straight.el-style plist. It is assumed that the
package has already been built."
(straight--with-plist recipe
(package)
+ (setf load-path (straight--drop-trailing-slashes-from-load-path))
(add-to-list 'load-path (straight--build-dir package))))
=20
(defun straight--add-package-to-info-path (recipe)
--8<-----------------------------cut here---------------end--------------->=
8---
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When I perform a fresh build of AUCTeX from Git, I get the following
code as part of tex-site.el:
(defvar TeX-lisp-directory
(expand-file-name "auctex" (file-name-directory load-file-name))
"The directory where most of the AUCTeX lisp files are located.
For the location of lisp files associated with
styles, see the variables TeX-style-* (hand-generated lisp) and
TeX-auto-* (automatically generated lisp).")
(add-to-list 'load-path TeX-lisp-directory)
This is problematic. As the documentation for `load-path' states:
Use =E2=80=98directory-file-name=E2=80=99 when adding items to this pat=
h.
But `TeX-lisp-directory' has a trailing slash. This seems like a bug
to me. Can it be fixed?
The reason this came up is that I maintain an Emacs package manager,
straight.el. Once straight.el builds a package, it adds the directory
to `load-path', using `directory-file-name' as specified by the
documentation of `load-path'. But since AUCTeX insists on also adding
its own entry to `load-path', and does so with a superfluous trailing
slash, we end up with two duplicate entries. Under some
configurations, this causes duplicate entries to appear when using M-x
find-library.
Best regards,
Radon Rosborough
Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@HIDDEN>:bug-auctex@HIDDEN.
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