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Subject: bug#31887: Modules missing to boot on VMWare
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Although we don't want to support non-free software, perhaps it would
be nice to support booting Guix on VMWare without the user needing to
do anything extra.

While experimenting, I found out that if we just add the following
three Linux modules to the standard initrd, Guix can boot on VMWare
just fine: mptbase, mptscsih, mptspi

mptspi depends on mptscsih, and both depend on mptbase, so if
dependencies are handled automatically, declaring mptspi should be
enough.


Taylan

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Although we don&#39;t want to support non-free software, p=
erhaps it would<br>be nice to support booting Guix on VMWare without the us=
er needing to<br>do anything extra.<br><br>While experimenting, I found out=
 that if we just add the following<br>three Linux modules to the standard i=
nitrd, Guix can boot on VMWare<br>just fine: mptbase, mptscsih, mptspi<br><=
br>mptspi depends on mptscsih, and both depend on mptbase, so if<br>depende=
ncies are handled automatically, declaring mptspi should be<br>enough.<br><=
br><div><br></div><div>Taylan<br></div></div>

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Hello Taylan,

Taylan Ulrich "Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer" <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Although we don't want to support non-free software, perhaps it would
> be nice to support booting Guix on VMWare without the user needing to
> do anything extra.
>
> While experimenting, I found out that if we just add the following
> three Linux modules to the standard initrd, Guix can boot on VMWare
> just fine: mptbase, mptscsih, mptspi
>
> mptspi depends on mptscsih, and both depend on mptbase, so if
> dependencies are handled automatically, declaring mptspi should be
> enough.

Currently every module we add to the initrd is actually loaded, so we
have to think twice before adding more.  In this case I=E2=80=99d rather pu=
nt.

Danny and I started work a while back to load modules on demand =C3=A0 la
udev, so we could revisit that decision when this is implemented.  Now,
if that only benefits VMWare, it=E2=80=99s low-priority for me.

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:

> Hello Taylan,
>
> Taylan Ulrich "Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer" <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN> skribi=
s:
>
>> Although we don't want to support non-free software, perhaps it would
>> be nice to support booting Guix on VMWare without the user needing to
>> do anything extra.
>>
>> While experimenting, I found out that if we just add the following
>> three Linux modules to the standard initrd, Guix can boot on VMWare
>> just fine: mptbase, mptscsih, mptspi
>>
>> mptspi depends on mptscsih, and both depend on mptbase, so if
>> dependencies are handled automatically, declaring mptspi should be
>> enough.
>
> Currently every module we add to the initrd is actually loaded, so we
> have to think twice before adding more.  In this case I=E2=80=99d rather =
punt.
>
> Danny and I started work a while back to load modules on demand =C3=A0 la
> udev, so we could revisit that decision when this is implemented.  Now,
> if that only benefits VMWare, it=E2=80=99s low-priority for me.

Understood and agreed. :-)

Should this bug remain open as a reminder?

> Ludo=E2=80=99.

Taylan

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Taylan Kammer <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN> skribis:

> ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:
>
>> Hello Taylan,
>>
>> Taylan Ulrich "Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer" <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN> skrib=
is:
>>
>>> Although we don't want to support non-free software, perhaps it would
>>> be nice to support booting Guix on VMWare without the user needing to
>>> do anything extra.
>>>
>>> While experimenting, I found out that if we just add the following
>>> three Linux modules to the standard initrd, Guix can boot on VMWare
>>> just fine: mptbase, mptscsih, mptspi
>>>
>>> mptspi depends on mptscsih, and both depend on mptbase, so if
>>> dependencies are handled automatically, declaring mptspi should be
>>> enough.
>>
>> Currently every module we add to the initrd is actually loaded, so we
>> have to think twice before adding more.  In this case I=E2=80=99d rather=
 punt.
>>
>> Danny and I started work a while back to load modules on demand =C3=A0 la
>> udev, so we could revisit that decision when this is implemented.  Now,
>> if that only benefits VMWare, it=E2=80=99s low-priority for me.
>
> Understood and agreed. :-)
>
> Should this bug remain open as a reminder?

Yes, I think so.

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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