GNU bug report logs - #32243
26.1; eldoc takes priority over flymake-diagnostics

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: James Nguyen <james <at> jojojames.com>

Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 19:23:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Found in version 26.1

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: James Nguyen <james <at> jojojames.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.1; eldoc takes priority over flymake-diagnostics
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 12:22:21 -0700
Using the recipe from:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=31921#25

(custom-set-variables
  '(help-at-pt-timer-delay 0.1)
  '(help-at-pt-display-when-idle '(flymake-diagnostic)))

(eldoc-mode)
(flymake-mode)

When point is over error, eldoc message will print over flymake's
message.

Changing eldoc-idle-delay to be faster or slower than
help-at-pt-timer-delay seems to have no effect other than when eldoc
will take priority.

If earlier, flymake's message will not show. If later, eldoc's message
will show after flymake's message.



In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0, NS appkit-1348.17 Version 10.10.5 (Build 14F2511))
 of 2018-05-30 built on builder10-10.porkrind.org
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1504
Recent messages:
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bug#32243; Package emacs. (Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:49:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
To: 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: bug#32243: 26.1; eldoc takes priority over flymake-diagnostics
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:48:22 +0100
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A naive fix for this could be

diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
index 49ba71fb1b..5fafd066db 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
@@ -272,7 +272,9 @@ eldoc-minibuffer-message
                 (when (stringp format-string)
                   (apply #'format-message format-string args)))
           (force-mode-line-update)))
-    (apply 'message format-string args)))
+    (unless (and (current-message)
+             (not (string= (current-message) "Quit")))
+      (apply 'message format-string args))))

 (defun eldoc-message (&optional string)
   "Display STRING as an ElDoc message if it's non-nil.

which imitates what help-at-pt-maybe-display-does.

It seems to work more or less well in my testing, but not always. Obviously
I haven't studied the full impact of this.

Dmitry, do you have any thoughts on this?

-- 
João Távora
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bug#32243; Package emacs. (Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:04:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: bug#32243: 26.1; eldoc takes priority over flymake-diagnostics
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:03:05 +0200
João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com> writes:

> A naive fix for this could be

[...]

> which imitates what help-at-pt-maybe-display-does.  
>
> It seems to work more or less well in my testing, but not always. Obviously 
> I haven't studied the full impact of this.
>
> Dmitry, do you have any thoughts on this?

This was two years ago.  I've respun the patch; included below.

Is this something that should be applied or not?

diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
index 4825b5c5e6..0bcd04f84a 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
@@ -300,7 +300,9 @@ eldoc-minibuffer-message
                 (when (stringp format-string)
                   (apply #'format-message format-string args)))
           (force-mode-line-update)))
-    (apply #'message format-string args)))
+    (unless (and (current-message)
+                 (not (string= (current-message) "Quit")))
+      (apply #'message format-string args))))
 
 (make-obsolete
  'eldoc-message "use `eldoc-documentation-functions' instead." "eldoc-1.1.0")


-- 
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   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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bug#32243; Package emacs. (Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:07:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #14 received at 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: bug#32243: 26.1; eldoc takes priority over flymake-diagnostics
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:05:43 +0100
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Hi, Lars

Answering your question, the patch should NOT be applied.

The situation has now completely changed in master. Actually, the problem
is reversed, with flymake diagnostics taking priority over eldoc, which
isn't ideal either. Fortunately, the new system allows for these things to
be easily configured by the user, and also allows eldoc and flymake
messages to coexist. I'll open a new bug describing the current situation
soon.

Up to you if this one should be closed. If it isn't, I guess I can continue
the discussion here.

João


On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 16:03 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:

> João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > A naive fix for this could be
>
> [...]
>
> > which imitates what help-at-pt-maybe-display-does.
> >
> > It seems to work more or less well in my testing, but not always.
> Obviously
> > I haven't studied the full impact of this.
> >
> > Dmitry, do you have any thoughts on this?
>
> This was two years ago.  I've respun the patch; included below.
>
> Is this something that should be applied or not?
>
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
> index 4825b5c5e6..0bcd04f84a 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el
> @@ -300,7 +300,9 @@ eldoc-minibuffer-message
>                  (when (stringp format-string)
>                    (apply #'format-message format-string args)))
>            (force-mode-line-update)))
> -    (apply #'message format-string args)))
> +    (unless (and (current-message)
> +                 (not (string= (current-message) "Quit")))
> +      (apply #'message format-string args))))
>
>  (make-obsolete
>   'eldoc-message "use `eldoc-documentation-functions' instead."
> "eldoc-1.1.0")
>
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>
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bug#32243; Package emacs. (Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:21:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: bug#32243: 26.1; eldoc takes priority over flymake-diagnostics
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:20:46 +0200
João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com> writes:

> The situation has now completely changed in master. Actually, the
> problem is reversed, with flymake diagnostics taking priority over
> eldoc, which isn't ideal either. Fortunately, the new system allows
> for these things to be easily configured by the user, and also allows
> eldoc and flymake messages to coexist. I'll open a new bug describing
> the current situation soon.
>
> Up to you if this one should be closed. If it isn't, I guess I can
> continue the discussion here.

Sounds like a new bug -- I think it would make more sense to open a new
report.  So I'm closing this one.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




bug closed, send any further explanations to 32243 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and James Nguyen <james <at> jojojames.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:22:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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