X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32267: dd's ucase and lcase and LC_CTYPE. Resent-From: Ralph Corderoy <ralph@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32267.B.153250629012800 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 32267 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 32267 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-coreutils@HIDDEN Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.153250629012800 (code B ref -1); Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:12:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2018 08:11:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56100 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fiEtO-0003KO-A7 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ralph@HIDDEN>) id 1fiEtM-0003K9-Bl for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ralph@HIDDEN>) id 1fiEtD-0001wQ-Ur for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:22 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:47303) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ralph@HIDDEN>) id 1fiEtD-0001wK-Qp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ralph@HIDDEN>) id 1fiEtA-0003VW-Jh for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ralph@HIDDEN>) id 1fiEt7-0001mv-IX for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:16 -0400 Received: from relay01.pair.com ([209.68.5.15]:49964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ralph@HIDDEN>) id 1fiEt7-0001mR-D4 for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:13 -0400 Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (unknown [81.174.201.153]) by relay01.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1B4D010E4 for <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN>; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 04:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (orac.inputplus.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by orac.inputplus.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984911FBFB; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:11:11 +0100 (BST) From: Ralph Corderoy <ralph@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:11:11 +0100 Message-Id: <20180725081111.984911FBFB@HIDDEN> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) Hi, Of dd(1), POSIX says http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/dd.html lcase Map uppercase characters specified by the LC_CTYPE keyword tolower to the corresponding lowercase character. Characters for which no mapping is specified shall not be modified by this conversion.=20 and similarly for `ucase'. But dd in coreutils 8.29-1 on Arch Linux just has a simple 256-byte translation table that's mapped through tolower(3) or toupper(3). http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/tolower.html describes tolower(3) as handling only `unsigned char' or EOF, and being the identity function on all values where there isn't a lowercase letter for the uppercase value. This deviation isn't documented AFAICS. It means ASCII and ISO-8859-1 are re-cased just fine. UTF-8 has its ASCII subset altered, and other bytes left alone, so the end result is valid UTF-8, but not fully re-cased. But charmaps like /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/CP949.gz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Hangul_Code, have variable-length byte sequences where 0x41, for example, isn't always an ASCII `A' and thus shouldn't become 0x61, `a'. Aside from improving the documentation, actually fixing dd to match POSIX will need to handle the re-cased character being a different number of bytes; particularly noticeable if the output file is the input file with `conv=3Dnotrunc'. $ locale | grep LC_CTYPE LC_CTYPE=3D"en_GB.utf8" $ $ sed 'l; s/./\u&/; l' <<<=C8=BF \310\277$ \342\261\276$ =E2=B1=BE $ sed 'l; s/./\l&/; l' <<<=E2=B1=BE \342\261\276$ \310\277$ =C8=BF $ --=20 Cheers, Ralph. https://plus.google.com/+RalphCorderoy
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32267: dd's ucase and lcase and LC_CTYPE. 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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180725081111.984911FBFB@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Yes, this is a known issue with dd as with many other coreutils programs. Strictly speaking as I understand it, it is not a deviation from POSIX, since POSIX does not require support for locales with multibyte encodings. Still, it would be nice to fix dd at some point, although it'd be a pain to do correctly and efficiently and it's long been low priority since hardly anybody needs or uses this feature on any platform.
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