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Documentation in ePub format

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From: Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:56:24 -0700

Hello

please consider publishing the emacs documentations in .epub format.

With https://github.com/jlhg/texinfo2epub texinfo is easily converted into epub.

Regards
  Дилян

Message #8 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org>
Cc: 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:30:42 +0200

Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org> writes:

> please consider publishing the emacs documentations in .epub format.
>
> With https://github.com/jlhg/texinfo2epub texinfo is easily converted into epub.

That seems like a reasonable thing to do, but to make this happen, I
think you have to contact the Free Software Foundation, as they are the
ones making these manuals available.  So I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #13 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:59:14 -0400

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The Emacs maintainers decide how to release Emacs and what derivative
file formats to make available.  If the maintainers wish to release
epub files, they can simply do it.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #16 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org>, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:34:09 -0400

Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org> writes:
>
>> please consider publishing the emacs documentations in .epub format.
>>
>> With https://github.com/jlhg/texinfo2epub texinfo is easily
>> converted into epub.
>
> That seems like a reasonable thing to do, but to make this happen, I
> think you have to contact the Free Software Foundation, as they are the
> ones making these manuals available.  So I'm closing this bug report.

?
I don't know what you want the FSF to do here.

If you want this, modify doc/*/Makefile.in to generate it.
And probably admin/make-manuals and admin/upload-manuals to add the
results to the web site.

Message #19 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org>, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:27:38 +0200

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org> writes:
>>
>>> please consider publishing the emacs documentations in .epub format.
>>>
>>> With https://github.com/jlhg/texinfo2epub texinfo is easily
>>> converted into epub.
>>
>> That seems like a reasonable thing to do, but to make this happen, I
>> think you have to contact the Free Software Foundation, as they are the
>> ones making these manuals available.  So I'm closing this bug report.
>
> ?
> I don't know what you want the FSF to do here.

I don't want the FSF to do anything, but this user wanted somebody to
publish the manuals in .epub format.  That seems like an FSF thing.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #26 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Дилян Палаузов
 <dilyan.palauzov <at> aegee.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:37:22 +0000

Hello,

any progress in finding out, whether FSF or the emacs developers are in charge for publishing the documentation in epub
format?

Regards
  Дилян

On Sun, 2019-07-14 at 14:27 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > > Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org> writes:
> > > 
> > > > please consider publishing the emacs documentations in .epub format.
> > > > 
> > > > With https://github.com/jlhg/texinfo2epub texinfo is easily
> > > > converted into epub.
> > > 
> > > That seems like a reasonable thing to do, but to make this happen, I
> > > think you have to contact the Free Software Foundation, as they are the
> > > ones making these manuals available.  So I'm closing this bug report.
> > 
> > ?
> > I don't know what you want the FSF to do here.
> 
> I don't want the FSF to do anything, but this user wanted somebody to
> publish the manuals in .epub format.  That seems like an FSF thing.
> 

Message #29 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, Dilyan Palauzov <Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org>,
 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:48:10 -0400

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> I don't want the FSF to do anything, but this user wanted somebody to
> publish the manuals in .epub format.  That seems like an FSF thing.

I think "publishing in .epub" just means adding some rules to the
makefile (and maybe adding those files to the website).

Message #32 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:36:32 -0400

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  > I think "publishing in .epub" just means adding some rules to the
  > makefile (and maybe adding those files to the website).

I think so too.

It's up to the Emacs maintainers
whether to do this, and to get the work done if they want it done.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #35 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs <at> gmail.com,
 Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:56:32 +0300

> From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:36:32 -0400
> Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>   > I think "publishing in .epub" just means adding some rules to the
>   > makefile (and maybe adding those files to the website).
> 
> I think so too.

This is certainly a valid interpretation of the request, but it isn't
the only one, especially given the intended use of epub documents.

The only person who knows for sure what was the intent is the OP, and
I'd like to hear from him before deciding what to do with this issue.

Thanks.

Message #38 received at 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Дилян Палаузов
 <dilyan.palauzov <at> aegee.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, npostavs <at> gmail.com, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32713: Documentation in ePub format
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:16:25 +0000

Hello,

I want that https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html lists under “The GNU Emacs manual is available in the
following formats:” also an “• ePub.” entry.

To achieve this, one can call on the document generating server

cd /git
git clone https://github.com/jlhg/texinfo2epub
cd /src/emacs-26.2/doc/emacs
/git/texinfo2epub/texinfo2epub.sh emacs.texi emacs.epub

Whether these lines are suitable within a build target, is a different question.  Please do not concentrate on this
question, but rather on what is necessary to list epub under https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html .

The next quesion would be, how can this be extendend this to other projects, like publishing epub under 
https://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/ or https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/ .

Regards
  Дилян



On Fri, 2019-08-23 at 10:56 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:36:32 -0400
> > Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, Dilyan.Palauzov <at> aegee.org, 32713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> >   > I think "publishing in .epub" just means adding some rules to the
> >   > makefile (and maybe adding those files to the website).
> > 
> > I think so too.
> 
> This is certainly a valid interpretation of the request, but it isn't
> the only one, especially given the intended use of epub documents.
> 
> The only person who knows for sure what was the intent is the OP, and
> I'd like to hear from him before deciding what to do with this issue.
> 
> Thanks.

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