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Full text available.Received: (at 32717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2020 13:57:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 16 08:57:29 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1is5eK-00086h-Ab for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 08:57:29 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:46260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stefan@HIDDEN>) id 1is5eF-00086C-Ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 08:57:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=r9jBDADRkXqb8r5z/y0wZzg59SSFSp1FqmR97Grwvz8=; b=KfAo66DGN+hss7pK/pg9eWC7tp wtLMJ6KaElvbMsexvQrRPUgItyC3VEwGJBd22wD5YIQN+z0dY6Wc9dWFp7XEEuxUJFa2NUyTfSkJC s6uWkD+h/MtRiWB0QOSdEi4RClV1mQn0m4NP+wDdM2Po+HIY9S/uJZi33TNvAHaJV+3kHsFABpMy1 4WX0tAjIf01jvpq8F2txqXZF+sBbPAh+1zQ06mvlhpZo2ID/drvKY2OD2/yi7riBzdAGMa/oDkV+Y qwqILpJ1sSdAjPx7OVMweaAIu6T16eAYB6GbHDzgvXtcBY3qxJQ7Kybetgq1b+7L5ew8M+OdKqHU0 Numij90A==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:52888 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <stefan@HIDDEN>) id 1is5e9-000Guc-3Y; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 08:57:17 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#32717: 26.1; Wheel-mouse down-scrolling leads to almost scroll a buffer out of its frame In-Reply-To: <83va7alk8m.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:05:13 +0300") References: <109EF3C8-F17F-457F-8045-59F55127BD64@HIDDEN> <834leun6dm.fsf@HIDDEN> <39066963-4346-4D12-AA94-34B4934D2D7F@HIDDEN> <83va7alk8m.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87k15ry05g.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@HIDDEN X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@HIDDEN X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32717 Cc: 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 32717 - notabug severity 32717 wishlist retitle 32717 Implement scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion support for NS / macOS thanks Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Or maybe someone would like to implement > scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion support for NS? I'm changing this bug into a feature request for that. Best regards, Stefan Kangas
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32717; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2018 17:32:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 12 13:32:22 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g0902-0004P8-I5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:32:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48223) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g0901-0004Ow-Uq for 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:32:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08zs-00062y-EU for 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:32:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44129) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08zs-00062s-9p; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:32:12 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1207 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08zr-0002yc-F9; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:32:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:32:03 +0300 Message-Id: <83sh2elizw.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <F59073C9-967A-46C2-8CC5-D419BDFE0DED@HIDDEN> (message from Konrad Podczeck on Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:24:43 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32717: 26.1; Wheel-mouse down-scrolling leads to almost scroll a buffer out of its frame References: <109EF3C8-F17F-457F-8045-59F55127BD64@HIDDEN> <834leun6dm.fsf@HIDDEN> <39066963-4346-4D12-AA94-34B4934D2D7F@HIDDEN> <83va7alk8m.fsf@HIDDEN> <F59073C9-967A-46C2-8CC5-D419BDFE0DED@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32717 Cc: 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN> > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:24:43 +0200 > Cc: 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > If you are using NS, then I guess this is how the respective toolkit > > works? Or maybe someone would like to implement > > scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion support for NS? > > Does „toolkit“ means something coming from Emacs, or, in may case, something coming from Apple? I ask this because May apps typically behave without „scrolling a buffer almost out of its frame." I meant the "NS toolkit", but I honestly don't know where does it come from, as I don't use NS. I suggest to wait for one of the NS people here to chime in.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32717; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32717; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2018 17:05:28 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 12 13:05:28 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g08a0-0003hH-4u for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:05:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38659) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08Zy-0003h3-Ph for 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:05:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08Zs-0004Ud-LH for 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:05:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08Zs-0004UZ-HY; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:05:20 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3535 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g08Zr-00083m-RI; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:05:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:05:13 +0300 Message-Id: <83va7alk8m.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <39066963-4346-4D12-AA94-34B4934D2D7F@HIDDEN> (message from Konrad Podczeck on Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:19 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32717: 26.1; Wheel-mouse down-scrolling leads to almost scroll a buffer out of its frame References: <109EF3C8-F17F-457F-8045-59F55127BD64@HIDDEN> <834leun6dm.fsf@HIDDEN> <39066963-4346-4D12-AA94-34B4934D2D7F@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32717 Cc: 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN> > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:19 +0200 > Cc: 32717 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > This is a feature. (Other applications behave like that, and there > > were enough Emacs users who wanted a similar behavior in Emacs.) If > > you don't like this behavior, customize the variable > > scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion to the nil value. > > Doing this has no effect. Maybe because I use the NS-port: The documentation of this variable speaks of GTK and Motif ports. If you are using NS, then I guess this is how the respective toolkit works? Or maybe someone would like to implement scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion support for NS?
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To reproduce: Start Emacs (without any customization). Open any (larger) =
file. Scrolling down as long as possible by using the mouse wheel stops =
only when the last line of the buffer becomes the first visible line of =
its frame, so that the rest of the frame becomes empty. This is rather =
unaesthetic. Also, it is inconsistent with scrolling down by using the =
down-arrow key, which, as in other applications, stops already when the =
buffer still occupies almost all of its frame.
In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0, NS appkit-1348.17 =
Version 10.10.5 (Build 14F2511))
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Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1561
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Configured features:
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electric-indent-mode: t
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file-name-shadow-mode: t
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