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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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Subject: Re: bug#32747: Be able to append mouse selections at the head of
`kill-ring' (e.g, with C-M-w)
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Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > And this seems
to be because `C-M-w' works by setting `last-command' to > `kill-region'
to signal that the next `copy-region-as-kill' should > append. However, when
dragging a region, `last-command' [...]
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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
> And this seems to be because `C-M-w' works by setting `last-command' to
> `kill-region' to signal that the next `copy-region-as-kill' should
> append. However, when dragging a region, `last-command' ends up being
> nil by the time we reach `copy-region-as-kill' -- presumably because we
> clear it somewhere in the mouse handling?
>
> Anybody have any ideas how to fix this, if we want to fix this?
The following patch fixes this, but it's not clear that we want to do
this.
`C-w C-d' (kill-region + kill-word) will make the second kill append
to the first, while similar commands like `M-w C-d' don't. So the
mouse.el code has:
;; Ignore
;; `last-command' so we don't append to a preceding kill.
Because we don't want `C-w <drag-mouse-1>' to append to that `C-w',
apparently.
But -- if you do something like `C-d M-w', then that `M-w' is morally
equivalent to the <drag-mouse-1> (i.e., we're putting more stuff onto
the kill ring without killing text).
So why is `C-w <drag-mouse-1>' different here? The patch makes them
behave the same way.
If we don't want that, we have to come up with a whole nother way to
implement `C-M-w', because it just sets last-command to `kill-region'.
Opinions?
diff --git a/lisp/mouse.el b/lisp/mouse.el
index 4b5f6ed223..5913992e44 100644
--- a/lisp/mouse.el
+++ b/lisp/mouse.el
@@ -1396,7 +1396,8 @@ mouse-set-region
;; Don't set this-command to `kill-region', so a following
;; C-w won't double the text in the kill ring. Ignore
;; `last-command' so we don't append to a preceding kill.
- (let (this-command last-command deactivate-mark)
+ (let ((last-command last-command)
+ this-command deactivate-mark)
(copy-region-as-kill beg end)))
(if (numberp beg) (goto-char beg))
;; On a text terminal, bounce the cursor.
@@ -1499,6 +1500,7 @@ mouse-drag-region
(mouse-drag-and-drop-region start-event)
;; Give temporary modes such as isearch a chance to turn off.
(run-hooks 'mouse-leave-buffer-hook)
+ (ignore-preserving-kill-region)
(mouse-drag-track start-event)))
;; Inhibit the region-confinement when undoing mouse-drag-region
@@ -1708,7 +1710,8 @@ mouse-drag-track
nil start-point))
((>= mouse-row bottom)
(mouse-scroll-subr start-window (1+ (- mouse-row bottom))
- nil start-point))))))))
+ nil start-point))))))
+ (ignore-preserving-kill-region)))
map)
t (lambda ()
(funcall cleanup)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2018 13:34:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 30 09:34:06 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53531 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gHU9m-0005GP-5P for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:34:06 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:43606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1gHU9k-0005Fr-8H for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:34:04 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w9UDTUxK073488; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:33:57 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=OhV/OnSslz+xyl1iodhqPS8D5UQQeioMCO8JygGht3Q=; b=OOelugBtz65EgCVt9eWFgfQSjxn3Xpkvdsq2UIhf0Jnf9zYVhUlTjk6nZC3P/U0PaZgE uTA7WFlFqJf1sFHsPsM1zqN8D5hfjlKi6rgHxzWRVBF5OpdWFENCeG7zSGNbL3of3XwW p1sKRqUjyCUKqF16dEupN4BACB6eLJqw8GR4dQ5h8NXvp/tt0+LrEvz9RzbXYVUldym6 +3FqCOgGjCL0tGc33Q7cIznoH1x0na50/INpOggy/JZAZMlwHXGvaYbqYyqZdt6jJbD9 DmqHEGmCzCjV4x4a90scow4Xji2rzP5HRGpZ/D6LWd4/uX1TaHRZwGuAaM7OpzVVWtc4 7g== Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2nducm0wex-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:33:57 +0000 Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w9UDXuft024893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:33:56 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w9UDXur4003358; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:33:56 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <556405d0-a4ed-4b00-ad75-71abf063b03e@default> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>>>>> <<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>>>> <<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>>>>> <<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>>> <<01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>>>>> <<83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>> <<9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default>>>> <<4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default>>>> <<83a7obexed.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <<1254fccb-35ae-4c51-8471-e01844f64517@default>>> <<834lejevn7.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<a141e4d1-fc48-44e3-819a-85befed70c26@default>> <<87efdnq0g9.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<80dfd942-980e-44f7-9592-d4c2388168d1@default>> <<83d0rrlwhy.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83d0rrlwhy.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4756.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9061 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=630 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1810300118 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > I have no idea what could cause that. FWIW, I don't get anything from > control <at> debbugs.gnu.org except responses to my emails to that > address. Could it be that you somehow subscribed to the > emacs-bug-tracker mailing list? Could you tell/remind me how to check whether I'm subscribed to that list and how to unsubscribe if I am? Sorry for the trouble. I'm getting swamped by all of these control messages.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2018 07:33:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 30 03:33:15 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53172 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gHOWZ-00057H-26 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:33:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1gHOWW-000573-QX for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:33:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1gHOWN-0004OM-8r for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:33:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1gHOWN-0004Nx-2M; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:33:03 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3795 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1gHOWM-0001Jd-DG; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:33:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:33:13 +0200 Message-Id: <83d0rrlwhy.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <80dfd942-980e-44f7-9592-d4c2388168d1@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:54:07 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>>>> <83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>>> <932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>>>> <83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>> <01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>>>> <83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default>>> <4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default>>> <83a7obexed.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <1254fccb-35ae-4c51-8471-e01844f64517@default>> <834lejevn7.fsf@HIDDEN>> <a141e4d1-fc48-44e3-819a-85befed70c26@default> <87efdnq0g9.fsf@HIDDEN> <80dfd942-980e-44f7-9592-d4c2388168d1@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:54:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Suddenly I'm getting zillions of messages from > control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. I guess I'm getting all of them. > At first I thought maybe it was some kind of backlog, which > would clear itself up after a while. > > I get hundreds of such control message per day now, which I > then have to delete. In the past I think I only got such > messages for bugs I that submitted. > > Or was there perhaps some other change that took effect > recently? Is there some easy way for me to not receive > all of the control messages? I have no idea what could cause that. FWIW, I don't get anything from control <at> debbugs.gnu.org except responses to my emails to that address. Could it be that you somehow subscribed to the emacs-bug-tracker mailing list?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32747; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2018 03:54:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 29 23:54:20 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gHL6i-0001ek-4k for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 23:54:20 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:51976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1gHL6f-0001eW-U2 for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 23:54:18 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w9U3sBna180443; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:54:11 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=ucsCFo7a/TH5Nzp9OEpNRRGQVnkj9JQsEudyDzgMt/w=; b=eLIqNjn0/L8e8bLkJEgIlpLI5A3Et3QgPFUl9+LWOAyqfm1a3XxcARMRn0nM3lPdMWdl u1NyECC5Cn18cViWlmIiw8D6bIFzfh10UX6T+6S95/u/cgIsJ0BbkBl2AlIXBBxHT0VU Ju6yO0wWs8hwuHSmORCygJ0LID32KCyJXrcbyIb05a+adXPlT42ak1NNUJpwnk5QXjJW YvwDoXjl74VbD+/6tzszVxLRqLpVoHL7g7BMEToCiSpKbcmxmByTb37+WpDauTKyqqYW lNRpsh0zUcOkV0L882wDVrRuFr4tb1Jkxd98hr3XA2wQcbZcSXcBt/AeVmX0HVoN4QMQ Yw== Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2nduckx3ga-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:54:11 +0000 Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w9U3s8OW003613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:54:09 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w9U3s8qR010117; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:54:08 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <80dfd942-980e-44f7-9592-d4c2388168d1@default> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>>>> <83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>>> <932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>>>> <83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>> <01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>>>> <83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default>>> <4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default>>> <83a7obexed.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <1254fccb-35ae-4c51-8471-e01844f64517@default>> <834lejevn7.fsf@HIDDEN>> <a141e4d1-fc48-44e3-819a-85befed70c26@default> <87efdnq0g9.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87efdnq0g9.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4756.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9061 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=391 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1810300032 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > > Didn't know how to reply to the control action of retitling. > > Again, sorry for bothering you. >=20 > Welp, I guess the lesson here is to always send the retitling action to > the bug thread in addition to control. I'll remember for next time. Hm. Dunno - just a guess, but I wonder if this change in habit might be responsible for a change I think I've been seeing over the last few days. Suddenly I'm getting zillions of messages from control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. I guess I'm getting all of them. At first I thought maybe it was some kind of backlog, which would clear itself up after a while. I get hundreds of such control message per day now, which I then have to delete. In the past I think I only got such messages for bugs I that submitted. Or was there perhaps some other change that took effect recently? Is there some easy way for me to not receive all of the control messages? Sorry to bother you about this. Thx.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: retitle 32747 Be able to append mouse selections at the head of `kill-ring' (e.g, with C-M-w) quit >> > > I don't understand why you address this to me although it's clear that >> > > I didn't retitle this bug. >> > >> > I replied to the last msg I got from this thread; sorry. >> >> In which I said nothing about retitling. So in what sense is this a >> "reply"? > > Didn't know how to reply to the control action of retitling. > Again, sorry for bothering you. 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So in what sense is this a >> "reply"? > > Didn't know how to reply to the control action of retitling. > Again, sorry for bothering you. Welp, I guess the lesson here is to always send the retitling action to the bug thread in addition to control. I'll remember for next time.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32747; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 20:56:05 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 20 16:56:05 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47399 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g35zZ-0002gn-Df for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:56:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35zX-0002gI-JY for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:56:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35zP-0000S3-As for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:55:58 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38036) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35zP-0000RZ-6H; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:55:55 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2854 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35zO-0005fc-QS; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:55:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:55:40 +0300 Message-Id: <834lejevn7.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <1254fccb-35ae-4c51-8471-e01844f64517@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:44:52 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<<<<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>>> <<<<<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>>> <<<<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>>> <<<<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <<<01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>>> <<<83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default>> <<4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default>> <<83a7obexed.fsf@HIDDEN>> <1254fccb-35ae-4c51-8471-e01844f64517@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:44:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > I don't understand why you address this to me although it's clear that > > I didn't retitle this bug. > > I replied to the last msg I got from this thread; sorry. In which I said nothing about retitling. So in what sense is this a "reply"?
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 20:18:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 20 16:18:13 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g35Ou-0001jU-Oc for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:18:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35Ot-0001jG-BB for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:18:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35Ok-0000MG-2Y for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:18:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35Oj-0000Ku-Uu; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:18:02 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4490 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g35Oj-00052l-GM; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:18:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:17:46 +0300 Message-Id: <83a7obexed.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:16:18 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<<<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>> <<<<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <<<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>> <<<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>> <<83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>> <9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default> <4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:16:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > This should not have been retitled to be about "mouse kills", I think. > > It's only about non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region' - its implicit copying > > to the kill ring. It's not about mouse kills. > > And if really want to retitle it based on the discussion then it should say > something like this: > > "Be able to mouse-select noncontiguous bits of text and get > their concatenation at the head of `kill-ring'" > > or perhaps > > "Be able to append mouse selections at the head of `kill-ring'" > > I think that `C-M-w' should let you do that. But AFAIK there is no way > to do it, whether using `C-M-w' or anything else. I don't understand why you address this to me although it's clear that I didn't retitle this bug.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32747; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 15:16:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 20 11:16:30 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g30gw-0000Jz-6D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:16:30 -0400 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:57414) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1g30gu-0000Jl-2q for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:16:28 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w8KFEUt3196289; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:16:21 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=AxmsTntBDYAB5kUyNoUyMFWr7RuUkRFYrbP3IMcwUbA=; b=o+k/Y5+4c2jpTlIv9tt6mhK8/fx8xFeUBBM5Nht7qgUpzlXJwbuq2oJ/Av9wdcCykhMP dw9wD3frpSoTJGesF7Q7wtwSIjazdZm3cZQRWvqWobikVQ0PRWhuKaa4QHfLAJaXJUoH RjcVp0nYYy5NJ3AMQIoRix/nqJs8Gd5NwSx9+7e64nHDSRnhXlp53RC3sHu8+p4kyVSx PHbgHBzsF/K0fvHxXNpBRg53tph+8otRhJVyNogHpI3GdlcrOXEZ+4z0E1evWr0gylUA 68V1s9tqR9Fsk6WQ0IomhkKoG+atbKLyHDg0Q19FD4QPII8RawkXIBq5NihRQURGyo/x Nw== Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2mgt1q3erx-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:16:21 +0000 Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w8KFGKTC023081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:16:20 GMT Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w8KFGJ86013315; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:16:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4394ff48-2444-4a9b-b635-e96e66a30cba@default> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<<<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>> <<<<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <<<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>> <<<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>> <<83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>> <9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4735.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9021 signatures=668707 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=263 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1809200150 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > This should not have been retitled to be about "mouse kills", I think. > It's only about non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region' - its implicit copying > to the kill ring. It's not about mouse kills. And if really want to retitle it based on the discussion then it should say something like this: "Be able to mouse-select noncontiguous bits of text and get their concatenation at the head of `kill-ring'" or perhaps "Be able to append mouse selections at the head of `kill-ring'" I think that `C-M-w' should let you do that. But AFAIK there is no way to do it, whether using `C-M-w' or anything else.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 19:24:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 19 15:24:02 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g2i4w-0005AC-3X for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:24:02 -0400 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:46732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1g2i4t-00059g-N4 for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:24:00 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w8JJJ3Oa029349; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:23:53 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=I2zEdsnpIeiC6elgARtmjWqufJn2iWGhCYZv9d6fdg4=; b=ToQ4LLnBtoBmcrZcGS8zbMEHM3+1sd5qaE611SfFPBNS1mG1LP/mXnl3vnTbs6YFuCfq WQla6oPSo+bkEpKiYBNVRZ4Ildt3e2eLeNWjDF1KuBpcP07wXkTKgNwmofz+32fmJSf/ T2DOCLrMGqZ0OtWuISpCPuMMVMQvyLPeGBtgeOJdQcZuB3iAvhRl78TixLFGz+opDUeE 6urH8zHfsmOujs23+jKZEvCTNq3YZIeF/dZZJ8kZGYy/fLKZPUM6+1Cv6JLrdINy0J2d plZZZannhC7IpCEuejgsHauAXg09+5XigW4DTXDgrp9eLsZQGI6Xq8UAhmK3HyJ+ijZ8 +A== Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2mgtqr5094-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:23:53 +0000 Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w8JJNlgS015588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:23:48 GMT Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w8JJNlud023074; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:23:47 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9136cccc-7e97-4a74-89a9-00eccab73c32@default> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:23:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<<<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>>> <<<<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>>> <<<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>>> <<<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default>> <<83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4735.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9021 signatures=668707 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=484 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1809190188 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > This behavior was never implemented. If that is what you want, you > are asking for a new feature, not reporting a bug, let alone a > regression. As I said:=20 ...you can call it an enhancement request... And until the requested enhancement is made there is a doc problem for `C-M-w', as it does not call out the fact that it doesn't append text selected with the mouse. AFAIK, there is no way to use `C-M-w' to cause a mouse selection to be appended to what was at the head of the kill-ring before that selection was made.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 18:44:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 19 14:44:53 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g2hT3-00043v-7b for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:44:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43706) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2hT1-00043h-VO for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:44:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2hSt-0004N1-8i for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:44:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2hSt-0004MR-0s; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:44:43 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4615 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2hSr-0002ln-4a; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:44:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:44:25 +0300 Message-Id: <83o9cte392.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:24:50 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>> <<<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>> <<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>> <01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:24:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Anyay, replaying the recipe now (again, from -Q), I see the bad > > > behavior in _all_ Emacs releases (including back to Emacs 20, > > > when there was no variable `mouse-drag-copy-region'). > > > > Makes sense, because those versions worked as if > > mouse-drag-copy-region was t. Emacs 22.1 added that variable, and you > > should be able to see the problem go away starting from that version, > > when this variable is nil. > > No. As I said, I checked Emacs 22.3.1 - to be exact: > > GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200) of 2008-09-06 on SOFT-MJASON I just tried that version, and I still see that mouse-drag-copy-region changes the behavior. > I've checked it multiple times now, each time from `emacs -Q'. > This is my Emacs 23.4 version: > GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200) of 2012-02-04 on MARVIN > > And I see the same thing in subsequent releases, as I said. > I'm on Windows 10. Nothing special about my Windows, AFAIK. I'm on XP, but that's where the difference ends. I have no idea why you see a different behavior, and I don't have Windows 10 nearby to check what happens there. > > Indeed, with that variable non-nil, users are not expected to copy and > > paste using the keyboard, they are expected to do that with the mouse. > > And they certainly aren't expected to mix both methods in the same > > sequence of actions on the same text. > > I don't agree. Nothing in the description of `mouse-drag-copy-region' > suggests that with a non-nil value users are not expected to also > copy and paste using the keyboard. That would make no sense. You can do both, but when you mix them, you get 2 copies of each kill/copy in the kill-ring. > There is no reason that someone should not be able to use `C-M-w' > to affect copies/kills made with the mouse. And there is nothing in > the doc to suggest otherwise. This behavior was never implemented. If that is what you want, you are asking for a new feature, not reporting a bug, let alone a regression.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 18:25:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 19 14:25:02 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45965 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g2h9p-0003TN-MZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:25:02 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:49476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1g2h9m-0003Ss-TM for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:25:00 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w8JIO24e017687; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:24:53 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=3+oAlPtliF0hzOsRSIK4uufURyIvRrnxfOtMEuck9Yk=; b=hh6T4sjLYJvxnIumsvqK9bQu6vIeZ5QLgctM7QCN/mn7qY99wUWOT11nkUn9DoQaH07H C/86EbNr0TZBm+6mvg2/bEioVZxRA7+liC/0pNg603uu3O5yZNJBEWLcHPEGUMOtqlVb W+kCD8EqKxt4FElYDAY5edKYxf30MjH4t/e0hcbIdUBaPrAbF4FpTzcrlgXvnz2rAWKo GWwaetvJE1cYHJMzWJNP0OSSISTAy3f0e2TVwyDJ/a0wXcGqJD/8lsDCMcngHtrxP7iW a5XRqpMvmru8TyFvqKxJ3qz8qCC7UKDhyaygmpqJSmYk8W3U/ZPy/A00iQZEorj1Bl0u 8Q== Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2mgsgtvtb9-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:24:52 +0000 Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w8JIOpIm012820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:24:52 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w8JIOpDw000548; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:24:51 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <01b0f0c4-e3b8-440f-a739-5995ca4ff615@default> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:24:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>>> <<<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>>> <<932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default>> <<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4735.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9021 signatures=668707 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1809190178 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > > Anyay, replaying the recipe now (again, from -Q), I see the bad > > behavior in _all_ Emacs releases (including back to Emacs 20, > > when there was no variable `mouse-drag-copy-region'). >=20 > Makes sense, because those versions worked as if > mouse-drag-copy-region was t. Emacs 22.1 added that variable, and you > should be able to see the problem go away starting from that version, > when this variable is nil. No. As I said, I checked Emacs 22.3.1 - to be exact: GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200) of 2008-09-06 on SOFT-MJASON And the problem exists regardless of the value of `mouse-drag-copy-region'. Setting the variable to nil has no effect in this regard - still the same p= roblem. > > In Emacs 23.4, changing `mouse-drag-copy-region' to nil does _not_ > > fix the behavior, for me. Are you sure that it does, for you? >=20 > Yes. I just rechecked again, to be sure. I don't understand why it > doesn't work for you, maybe it's something specific to your system, or > maybe that Emacs binary is somehow different from mine (unlikely). Or > maybe you made some mistake in reproducing the behavior in that > version. I've checked it multiple times now, each time from `emacs -Q'. This is my Emacs 23.4 version: GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200) of 2012-02-04 on MARVIN And I see the same thing in subsequent releases, as I said. I'm on Windows 10. Nothing special about my Windows, AFAIK. > > In Emacs 24.5 and later the bad behavior exists only when the > > variable is non-nil. >=20 > When that variable is non-nil, what you see is expected behavior, see > below. >=20 > > So the bug does not seem to be a regression, and it is longstanding. > > Perhaps no one ever tried to use `C-M-w M-w' with a mouse > > selection when testing? >=20 > Indeed, with that variable non-nil, users are not expected to copy and > paste using the keyboard, they are expected to do that with the mouse. > And they certainly aren't expected to mix both methods in the same > sequence of actions on the same text. I don't agree. Nothing in the description of `mouse-drag-copy-region' suggests that with a non-nil value users are not expected to also copy and paste using the keyboard. That would make no sense. There is no reason that someone should not be able to use `C-M-w' to affect copies/kills made with the mouse. And there is nothing in the doc to suggest otherwise. > > Do you agree that this is a bug? >=20 > No, I think it's expected. When that variable is non-nil, making the > second selection automatically copies the selected text into the > kill-ring, so your C-M-w affects the next M-w, which copies the same > text. =20 I understand that that's what happens. But it's not what _should_ happen, IMO. `C-M-w' should make the following kill (or copy as kill) append to the previous kill-ring entry, in general. But in the case of the automatic copy to the kill-ring just by selecting with the mouse, that automatic copy should be replaced by `C-M-w' when it is followed by another kill command. I realize that that behavior was not implemented. But it's the only behavior that makes sense, to allow `C-M-w' to work with mouse selections. So I stand by my report, but you can call it an enhancement request if you prefer. And until the requested enhancement is made there is a doc problem for `C-M-w', as it does not call out the fact that it doesn't append text selected with the mouse. AFAIK, there is no way to use `C-M-w' to cause a mouse selection to be appended to what was at the head of the kill-ring before that selection was made. > The text of the first selection should be available with M-y, > as it is one slot down in the kill-ring (and should also be there > twice, for the same reason). There's no way, AFAIK, to get the mouse selection appended to that first selection, as the top kill-ring entry. You cannot use M-y anywhere in a sequence of actions with `C-M-w' to append a mouse selection to that previous kill-ring entry. > > To me, this is a bug. The behavior contradicts what the doc says for > > `C-M-w', and the behavior is useless (why would anyone want > > duplication of the mouse selection - appending it to itself instead > > of the previous kill?) >=20 > You create the duplication by using M-w, because with that variable > non-nil, there's no need for M-w, as selected text automatically gets > placed in the kill-ring as soon as it is selected.=20 Yes, I know. I think you're not getting the point. There is no way to tell Emacs to append the current mouse selection to the head of the kill-ring as it was before the mouse selection, replacing that head with the concatenation. Emacs provides `C-M-w' for that, but it cannot (so far) be used to append a mouse selection. The automatic copy-to-kill that happens with mouse selection is a good thing. But it should not happen if the selection immediately follows `C-M-w'.=20 Not sure that's the fix, but it seems like it might be. The intended effect is clear enough, as described above: `C-M-w' should be able to have the effect that a subsequent mouse selection can be appended to what was at the head of the ring before that mouse selection. Probably the fix needs to be made to `mouse-save-then-kill', not to `append-next-kill': Don't copy selection as kill if previous command is `append-next-kill'. But it's not enough to test `last-command' for that, because `append-next-kill' sets `this-command' to `kill-region'. Maybe checking whether `real-last-command' is `append-last-kill' is sufficient. > This mode is for people who select and copy/paste with the mouse, > not with the keyboard. I don't agree. And I don't agree that there are Emacs users who select only with the mouse or only with the keyboard. Or even if there are such people, I see no evidence that this variable (or "mode") is only for such people. But forget about this variable/mode. The enhancement request is to be able to use `C-M-w' to have Emacs append the mouse selection to the last kill (the one prior to the implicit/automatic kill from making the mouse selection). That's all. > What documentation does this contradict?=20 `C-M-w', but contradict is not the right word here. Yes, technically it does do what it says. But it does not do what one expects. It's not about whether it technically appends the `M-w' copy (after `C-M-w') to the kill-ring head, which is the same text. It's about there being no way to use `C-M-w' to let you=20 append text selected with the mouse. Please tell me how, using the mouse, you would select the first word of this paragraph, and select the 5th word, and be able to yank their concatenation. That's what `C-M-w' is for: letting you copy/kill bits of text to the kill-ring, not as separate entries but by concatenating them together as the head entry of the ring. > Perhaps we should clarify > that, but in general you are doing something unexpected: mixing the > mouse-based selection and copy/paste paradigm with the keyboard-based > one. They are supposed to be separate, and the defaults since Emacs > 24 make sure they are. I don't think (1) mouse-based selection and copying to the kill-ring and (2) keyboard-based selection and copying to the kill-ring are unmixed. You can mix them freely, in any order, with no problem. Emacs has no policy of limiting use of the mouse to people who only use the mouse, and similarly for the keyboard. The only thing that does not work, AFAIK, is what I've described here. And it's not even about mixing mouse and keyboard. Tell me how, using _only_ the mouse, to select bits on noncontiguous text and get their concatenation at the head of the kill-ring.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 14:38:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 19 10:38:33 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1g2dcf-000389-2c for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:38:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2dce-00037w-9D for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:38:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2dcW-0002gY-D3 for 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:38:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2dcU-0002dz-8d; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:38:23 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1082 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1g2dcT-0000ag-PO; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:38:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:38:22 +0300 Message-Id: <83pnx9een5.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:51:40 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#32747: 26; `C-M-w M-w' with non-nil `mouse-drag-copy-region', if selected with mouse References: <<ea7faa90-5fef-43f8-8aa9-bb3d60d476c4@default>> <<83tvmlew2a.fsf@HIDDEN>> <932a1915-c043-4708-9f16-dc0ee8fafdb3@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32747 Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:51:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: 32747 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Anyay, replaying the recipe now (again, from -Q), I see the bad > behavior in _all_ Emacs releases (including back to Emacs 20, > when there was no variable `mouse-drag-copy-region'). Makes sense, because those versions worked as if mouse-drag-copy-region was t. Emacs 22.1 added that variable, and you should be able to see the problem go away starting from that version, when this variable is nil. > In Emacs 23.4, changing `mouse-drag-copy-region' to nil does _not_ > fix the behavior, for me. Are you sure that it does, for you? Yes. I just rechecked again, to be sure. I don't understand why it doesn't work for you, maybe it's something specific to your system, or maybe that Emacs binary is somehow different from mine (unlikely). Or maybe you made some mistake in reproducing the behavior in that version. > In Emacs 24.5 and later the bad behavior exists only when the > variable is non-nil. When that variable is non-nil, what you see is expected behavior, see below. > So the bug does not seem to be a regression, and it is longstanding. > Perhaps no one ever tried to use `C-M-w M-w' with a mouse > selection when testing? Indeed, with that variable non-nil, users are not expected to copy and paste using the keyboard, they are expected to do that with the mouse. And they certainly aren't expected to mix both methods in the same sequence of actions on the same text. > Do you agree that this is a bug? No, I think it's expected. When that variable is non-nil, making the second selection automatically copies the selected text into the kill-ring, so your C-M-w affects the next M-w, which copies the same text. The text of the first selection should be available with M-y, as it is one slot down in the kill-ring (and should also be there twice, for the same reason). > To me, this is a bug. The behavior contradicts what the doc says for > `C-M-w', and the behavior is useless (why would anyone want > duplication of the mouse selection - appending it to itself instead > of the previous kill?) You create the duplication by using M-w, because with that variable non-nil, there's no need for M-w, as selected text automatically gets placed in the kill-ring as soon as it is selected. This mode is for people who select and copy/paste with the mouse, not with the keyboard. What documentation does this contradict? Perhaps we should clarify that, but in general you are doing something unexpected: mixing the mouse-based selection and copy/paste paradigm with the keyboard-based one. They are supposed to be separate, and the defaults since Emacs 24 make sure they are.
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(setq mouse-drag-copy-region t) ; Mouse selection copies to kill-rin= g. > > 3. In *scratch*, select some text, e.g. "This buffer". > > 4. Use `M-w' to copy the selected text to the kill ring. > > 5. With the mouse, select some other text, e.g. "visit that file". > > 6. Use `C-M-w M-w', to append the second selection to the first as the > > last kill. The kill should thus be "This buffervisit that file". > > 7. `C-y' to yank the last kill. > > > > The text yanked should be "This buffervisit that file". Instead, it is > > "visit that filevisit that file". That is, the second selection is > > added to the kill ring and appended to itself. >=20 > I see something almost opposite: >=20 > . in Emacs 23.4, the above recipe produces the "wrong" behavior, > unless I set mouse-drag-copy-region to nil (it is t by default) >=20 > . in Emacs 24 and later, mouse-drag-copy-region is nil by default, so > the recipe works in "emacs -Q" without any customizations, but if I > set mouse-drag-copy-region to t, I get the old "wrong" Emacs 23 > behavior >=20 > So I wonder what is going on with your system that you seem to see > such strikingly different results. Thanks for checking this. Apologies. Dunno what I was seeing, or thought I was seeing, for Emacs 23.4. Perhaps I was mixed up by not realizing that the default value for the variable was different, and perhaps not testing both cases or something. Anyay, replaying the recipe now (again, from -Q), I see the bad behavior in _all_ Emacs releases (including back to Emacs 20, when there was no variable `mouse-drag-copy-region'). In Emacs 23.4, changing `mouse-drag-copy-region' to nil does _not_ fix the behavior, for me. Are you sure that it does, for you? Both nil and t values just duplicate the mouse selection - the first text selected and copied to the kill-ring with `M-w' is not present in either case. In Emacs 24.5 and later the bad behavior exists only when the variable is non-nil. So the bug does not seem to be a regression, and it is longstanding. Perhaps no one ever tried to use `C-M-w M-w' with a mouse selection when testing? Do you agree that this is a bug? If not, do you agree that it is a worthwhile enhancement request that `C-M-w' be able to affect a mouse selection the same way it affects a selection made with the keyboard? To me, this is a bug. The behavior contradicts what the doc says for `C-M-w', and the behavior is useless (why would anyone want duplication of the mouse selection - appending it to itself instead of the previous kill?) (The same problem exists for an actual kill, BTW. E.g. following `C-M-w' with `C-w' instead of `M-w'.) That I see the problem in Emacs 23.4 with both values of the variable, and I see it in older releases where the variable does not exist yet, maybe provides a clue for fixing the bug; dunno. Whatever is done now for the nil case works correctly.
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This is a regression that was apparently introduced in Emacs 24. Things
work properly (as documented and as expected) in Emacs 23.4 and prior,
but not in Emacs 24.5 or later.
=20
1. emacs -Q
2. (setq mouse-drag-copy-region t) ; Mouse selection copies to kill-ring.
3. In *scratch*, select some text, e.g. "This buffer".
4. Use `M-w' to copy the selected text to the kill ring.
5. With the mouse, select some other text, e.g. "visit that file".
6. Use `C-M-w M-w', to append the second selection to the first as the
last kill. The kill should thus be "This buffervisit that file".
7. `C-y' to yank the last kill.
=20
The text yanked should be "This buffervisit that file". Instead, it is
"visit that filevisit that file". That is, the second selection is
added to the kill ring and appended to itself.
=20
It makes no difference how the first selection (step #3) is made: with
the mouse or not. It should also not make a difference how the second
selection (#5) is made. And there certainly is no use case for doubling
the text from the second selection (#5) for the yank.
=20
In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
of 2018-05-30
Repository revision: 07f8f9bc5a51f5aa94eb099f3e15fbe0c20ea1ea
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