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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yes, if I comment out the line "(not show-paren-mode)" in the function blink-matching-open, I observe the same thing. During the short time that the point is temporarily moved to the correct matching paren, the old/previous highlighted parens are still visible. If they could be updated before the jump rather than after, then the problem would be solved. But as you say, that would require more changes to the code. To be honest, the execution paths in this piece of code is not obvious to me, so I'm rather puzzled where to begin... [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32851 Cc: 32851 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) --0000000000006472a10576d8742c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes, if I comment out the line "(not show-paren-mode)" in the function blink-matching-open, I observe the same thing. During the short time that the point is temporarily moved to the correct matching paren, the old/previous highlighted parens are still visible. If they could be updated before the jump rather than after, then the problem would be solved. But as you say, that would require more changes to the code. To be honest, the execution paths in this piece of code is not obvious to me, so I'm rather puzzled where to begin... On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:43 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > From: Stefan Guath <stefan@HIDDEN> > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:35:06 +0200 > > > > When show-paren-mode is enabled, the only respected setting for > blink-matching-paren is "any other non-nil > > value" which echos matched parens only when they are off-screen. The > settings t, 'jump and 'jump-offscreen > > are disabled. > > > > I can understand why the settings t and 'jump are disregarded since it > would just be a redundant functionality > > of show-paren-mode. But I don't understand why the setting > 'jump-offscreen is disregarded. I think it's a better > > option than "echo match off screen paren" since i) a jump (i.e. a > scroll) gives more context than a one-liner in > > the echo area, and ii) it's very convenient to get a semantic based > scroll operation automatically. > > Did you try to remove the condition that show-paren-mode is active? > When I try that, I see an unpleasant effect: when blink-matching-paren > jumps off-screen, the wrong opening parenthesis is highlighted > (although the jump is to the right place). > > So allowing jump-offscreen and show-paren-mode to coexist will need > more changes than just removing the condition. > --0000000000006472a10576d8742c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, if I comment out th= e line "(not show-paren-mode)" in the function blink-matching-ope= n, I observe the same thing. During the short time that the point is tempor= arily moved to the correct matching paren, the old/previous highlighted par= ens are still visible. If they could be updated before the jump rather than= after, then the problem would be solved. But as you say, that would requir= e more changes to the code. To be honest, the execution paths in this piece= of code is not obvious to me, so I'm rather puzzled where to begin...<= br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu= , Sep 27, 2018 at 12:43 PM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN= ">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st= yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">> = From: Stefan Guath <<a href=3D"mailto:stefan@HIDDEN" target=3D"_bla= nk">stefan@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:35:06 +0200<br> > <br> > When show-paren-mode is enabled, the only respected setting for blink-= matching-paren is "any other non-nil<br> > value" which echos matched parens only when they are off-screen. = The settings t, 'jump and 'jump-offscreen<br> > are disabled.<br> > <br> > I can understand why the settings t and 'jump are disregarded sinc= e it would just be a redundant functionality<br> > of show-paren-mode. But I don't understand why the setting 'ju= mp-offscreen is disregarded. I think it's a better<br> > option than "echo match off screen paren" since i) a jump (i= .e. a scroll) gives more context than a one-liner in<br> > the echo area, and ii) it's very convenient to get a semantic base= d scroll operation automatically.<br> <br> Did you try to remove the condition that show-paren-mode is active?<br> When I try that, I see an unpleasant effect: when blink-matching-paren<br> jumps off-screen, the wrong opening parenthesis is highlighted<br> (although the jump is to the right place).<br> <br> So allowing jump-offscreen and show-paren-mode to coexist will need<br> more changes than just removing the condition.<br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000006472a10576d8742c--
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DESCRIPTION When show-paren-mode is enabled, the only respected setting for blink-matching-paren is "any other non-nil value" which echos matched parens only when they are off-screen. The settings t, 'jump and 'jump-offscreen are disabled. I can understand why the settings t and 'jump are disregarded since it would just be a redundant functionality of show-paren-mode. But I don't understand why the setting 'jump-offscreen is disregarded. I think it's a better option than "echo match off screen paren" since i) a jump (i.e. a scroll) gives more context than a one-liner in the echo area, and ii) it's very convenient to get a semantic based scroll operation automatically. --000000000000e3b4370576d70efc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>SUMMARY<br></div><d= iv>When show-paren-mode is enabled, the setting (setq blink-matching-paren = 'jump-offscreen) is disabled, which is annoying.<br></div><div><br></di= v><div>DESCRIPTION</div><div>When show-paren-mode is enabled, the only resp= ected setting for blink-matching-paren is "any other non-nil value&quo= t; which echos matched parens only when they are off-screen. The settings t= , 'jump and 'jump-offscreen are disabled.<br></div><div><br></div><= div>I can understand why the settings t and 'jump are disregarded since= it would just be a redundant functionality of show-paren-mode. But I don&#= 39;t understand why the setting 'jump-offscreen is disregarded. I think= it's a better option than "echo match off screen paren" sinc= e i) a jump (i.e. a scroll) gives more context than a one-liner in the echo= area, and ii) it's very convenient to get a semantic based scroll oper= ation automatically.<br></div><br></div></div></div> --000000000000e3b4370576d70efc--
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