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Check if make supports nested variables is done twice when using silent rules
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On 9/28/18 1:47 PM, Jacob Kroon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I use AM_SILENT_RULES([yes]) in my configure.ac, when I run the
> configure scripts I see this:
> ...
> checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
> checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
> ...
>
> If I remove AM_SILENT_RULES, the test is only done once.
>
> Is this intended behaviour ?
I don't know. But AM_SILENT_RULES is supplied by automake, not autoconf,
so it's better to ask your question on the correct list. I've gone
ahead and updated the CC's accordingly.
>
> I'm on an updated Debian Stretch system using (Debian version syntax):
> autoconf 2.69-10
> automake 1:1.15-6
>
> Regards Jacob
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On 28 Sep 2018 20:47, Jacob Kroon wrote:
> If I use AM_SILENT_RULES([yes]) in my configure.ac, when I run the
> configure scripts I see this:
> ...
> checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
> checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
> ...
>
> If I remove AM_SILENT_RULES, the test is only done once.
>
> Is this intended behaviour ?
it's because of how silent rules are integrated. AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE has:
AC_REQUIRE([AM_SILENT_RULES])
which makes the silent rules framework always available.
but if you want to opt-in to silent-by-default, you have to call that
same macro:
AM_SILENT_RULES([yes])
and then all the logic is expanded twice, not just that autoconf check.
we could refactor AM_SILENT_RULES internally to minimize the amount of
duplicated logic (just setup AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY and related vars).
but i've also always found this config interface to be weird. most
automake options are controlled by AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, except for this.
the original implementation had a "silent-rules" option, but that set
whether the logic was included, not the default yes/no. with automake
1.13, this option was turned into a no-op since it's always enabled.
i'm inclined to bring this back as the way to opt-in to silent-rules
by default. that would address by not needing multiple calls to the
AM_SILENT_RULES macro in the first place.
-mike
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> i'm inclined to bring this back as the way to opt-in to silent-rules
> by default.
And I’m still absolutely opposed to making it even *possible* to have silent rules be on by default. In fact I’d like to see —enable-silent-rules removed, with make V=0 the *only* way to switch to silent mode.
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Fixes automake bug https://bugs.gnu.org/32868.
The AM_SILENT_RULES macro defines all the silent-rules related setup.
It's also called by users to change the default verbosity level. This
leads to a quirk where automake calls it, expands the full context,
and then users call it, and it's fully expanded again.
Instead, let's rename AM_SILENT_RULES to _AM_SILENT_RULES and move the
initialization logic to late in the configure stage. This allows the
user-centric AM_SILENT_RULES call to expand into a single line to set
the default verbosity.
* m4/init.m4: Switch to _AM_SILENT_RULES.
* m4/silent.m4: Rename AM_SILENT_RULES to _AM_SILENT_RULES. Delay
evaluation of AM_SILENT_RULES to the end. Change AM_SILENT_RULES to
only define AM_SILENT_RULES.
---
m4/init.m4 | 2 +-
m4/silent.m4 | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
2 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
diff --git a/m4/init.m4 b/m4/init.m4
index f3abf66c6e96..f3c7845bca70 100644
--- a/m4/init.m4
+++ b/m4/init.m4
@@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ if test -z "$CSCOPE"; then
fi
AC_SUBST([CSCOPE])
-AC_REQUIRE([AM_SILENT_RULES])dnl
+AC_REQUIRE([_AM_SILENT_RULES])dnl
dnl The testsuite driver may need to know about EXEEXT, so add the
dnl 'am__EXEEXT' conditional if _AM_COMPILER_EXEEXT was seen. This
dnl macro is hooked onto _AC_COMPILER_EXEEXT early, see below.
diff --git a/m4/silent.m4 b/m4/silent.m4
index b1502ed389b6..9b3c7a6a017b 100644
--- a/m4/silent.m4
+++ b/m4/silent.m4
@@ -5,12 +5,12 @@
# gives unlimited permission to copy and/or distribute it,
# with or without modifications, as long as this notice is preserved.
-# AM_SILENT_RULES([DEFAULT])
-# --------------------------
-# Enable less verbose build rules; with the default set to DEFAULT
-# ("yes" being less verbose, "no" or empty being verbose).
-AC_DEFUN([AM_SILENT_RULES],
-[AC_ARG_ENABLE([silent-rules], [dnl
+# _AM_SILENT_RULES
+# ----------------
+# Enable less verbose build rules support.
+AC_DEFUN([_AM_SILENT_RULES],
+[AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=0
+AC_ARG_ENABLE([silent-rules], [dnl
AS_HELP_STRING(
[--enable-silent-rules],
[less verbose build output (undo: "make V=1")])
@@ -18,11 +18,6 @@ AS_HELP_STRING(
[--disable-silent-rules],
[verbose build output (undo: "make V=0")])dnl
])
-case $enable_silent_rules in @%:@ (((
- yes) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=0;;
- no) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=1;;
- *) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=m4_if([$1], [yes], [0], [1]);;
-esac
dnl
dnl A few 'make' implementations (e.g., NonStop OS and NextStep)
dnl do not support nested variable expansions.
@@ -41,14 +36,6 @@ am__doit:
else
am_cv_make_support_nested_variables=no
fi])
-if test $am_cv_make_support_nested_variables = yes; then
- dnl Using '$V' instead of '$(V)' breaks IRIX make.
- AM_V='$(V)'
- AM_DEFAULT_V='$(AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY)'
-else
- AM_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
- AM_DEFAULT_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
-fi
AC_SUBST([AM_V])dnl
AM_SUBST_NOTMAKE([AM_V])dnl
AC_SUBST([AM_DEFAULT_V])dnl
@@ -57,4 +44,27 @@ AC_SUBST([AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY])dnl
AM_BACKSLASH='\'
AC_SUBST([AM_BACKSLASH])dnl
_AM_SUBST_NOTMAKE([AM_BACKSLASH])dnl
+dnl Delay evaluation of AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY to the end to allow multiple calls
+dnl to AM_SILENT_RULES to change the default value.
+AC_CONFIG_COMMANDS_PRE([dnl
+case $enable_silent_rules in @%:@ (((
+ yes) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=0;;
+ no) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=1;;
+esac
+if test $am_cv_make_support_nested_variables = yes; then
+ dnl Using '$V' instead of '$(V)' breaks IRIX make.
+ AM_V='$(V)'
+ AM_DEFAULT_V='$(AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY)'
+else
+ AM_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
+ AM_DEFAULT_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
+fi
+])dnl
])
+
+# AM_SILENT_RULES([DEFAULT])
+# --------------------------
+# Set the default verbosity level to DEFAULT ("yes" being less verbose, "no" or
+# empty being verbose).
+AC_DEFUN([AM_SILENT_RULES],
+[AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=m4_if([$1], [yes], [0], [1])])
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On 20 Feb 2022 16:27, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> > i'm inclined to bring this back as the way to opt-in to silent-rules
> > by default.
>
> And I’m still absolutely opposed to making it even *possible* to have silent rules be on by default. In fact I’d like to see —enable-silent-rules removed, with make V=0 the *only* way to switch to silent mode.
please don't derail threads
-mike
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On 20 Feb 2022 19:14, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> --- a/m4/silent.m4
> +++ b/m4/silent.m4
> @@ -5,12 +5,12 @@
> # gives unlimited permission to copy and/or distribute it,
> # with or without modifications, as long as this notice is preserved.
>
> -# AM_SILENT_RULES([DEFAULT])
> -# --------------------------
> -# Enable less verbose build rules; with the default set to DEFAULT
> -# ("yes" being less verbose, "no" or empty being verbose).
> -AC_DEFUN([AM_SILENT_RULES],
> -[AC_ARG_ENABLE([silent-rules], [dnl
> +# _AM_SILENT_RULES
> +# ----------------
> +# Enable less verbose build rules support.
> +AC_DEFUN([_AM_SILENT_RULES],
> +[AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=0
this should be 1 instead of 0. the silent-vs-verbose is kind of a double
negative, so i flipped it before testing. i've fix it locally.
-mike
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Fixes automake bug https://bugs.gnu.org/32868.
The AM_SILENT_RULES macro defines all the silent-rules related setup.
It's also called by users to change the default verbosity level. This
leads to a quirk where automake calls it, expands the full context,
and then users call it, and it's fully expanded again.
Instead, let's rename AM_SILENT_RULES to _AM_SILENT_RULES and move the
initialization logic to late in the configure stage. This allows the
user-centric AM_SILENT_RULES call to expand into a single line to set
the default verbosity.
* m4/init.m4: Switch to _AM_SILENT_RULES.
* m4/silent.m4: Rename AM_SILENT_RULES to _AM_SILENT_RULES. Delay
evaluation of AM_SILENT_RULES to the end. Define new AM_SILENT_RULES to
set default rules verbosity.
* t/silent-defaults.sh: New tests.
* t/list-of-tests.mk: Add t/silent-defaults.sh.
---
v2
- fix default handling when AM_SILENT_RULES is called before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
m4/init.m4 | 2 +-
m4/silent.m4 | 49 ++++++++-----
t/list-of-tests.mk | 1 +
t/silent-defaults.sh | 164 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
4 files changed, 196 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 t/silent-defaults.sh
diff --git a/m4/init.m4 b/m4/init.m4
index f3abf66c6e96..f3c7845bca70 100644
--- a/m4/init.m4
+++ b/m4/init.m4
@@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ if test -z "$CSCOPE"; then
fi
AC_SUBST([CSCOPE])
-AC_REQUIRE([AM_SILENT_RULES])dnl
+AC_REQUIRE([_AM_SILENT_RULES])dnl
dnl The testsuite driver may need to know about EXEEXT, so add the
dnl 'am__EXEEXT' conditional if _AM_COMPILER_EXEEXT was seen. This
dnl macro is hooked onto _AC_COMPILER_EXEEXT early, see below.
diff --git a/m4/silent.m4 b/m4/silent.m4
index b1502ed389b6..d19c56e8ac3b 100644
--- a/m4/silent.m4
+++ b/m4/silent.m4
@@ -5,12 +5,12 @@
# gives unlimited permission to copy and/or distribute it,
# with or without modifications, as long as this notice is preserved.
-# AM_SILENT_RULES([DEFAULT])
-# --------------------------
-# Enable less verbose build rules; with the default set to DEFAULT
-# ("yes" being less verbose, "no" or empty being verbose).
-AC_DEFUN([AM_SILENT_RULES],
-[AC_ARG_ENABLE([silent-rules], [dnl
+# _AM_SILENT_RULES
+# ----------------
+# Enable less verbose build rules support.
+AC_DEFUN([_AM_SILENT_RULES],
+[AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=1
+AC_ARG_ENABLE([silent-rules], [dnl
AS_HELP_STRING(
[--enable-silent-rules],
[less verbose build output (undo: "make V=1")])
@@ -18,11 +18,6 @@ AS_HELP_STRING(
[--disable-silent-rules],
[verbose build output (undo: "make V=0")])dnl
])
-case $enable_silent_rules in @%:@ (((
- yes) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=0;;
- no) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=1;;
- *) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=m4_if([$1], [yes], [0], [1]);;
-esac
dnl
dnl A few 'make' implementations (e.g., NonStop OS and NextStep)
dnl do not support nested variable expansions.
@@ -41,14 +36,6 @@ am__doit:
else
am_cv_make_support_nested_variables=no
fi])
-if test $am_cv_make_support_nested_variables = yes; then
- dnl Using '$V' instead of '$(V)' breaks IRIX make.
- AM_V='$(V)'
- AM_DEFAULT_V='$(AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY)'
-else
- AM_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
- AM_DEFAULT_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
-fi
AC_SUBST([AM_V])dnl
AM_SUBST_NOTMAKE([AM_V])dnl
AC_SUBST([AM_DEFAULT_V])dnl
@@ -57,4 +44,28 @@ AC_SUBST([AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY])dnl
AM_BACKSLASH='\'
AC_SUBST([AM_BACKSLASH])dnl
_AM_SUBST_NOTMAKE([AM_BACKSLASH])dnl
+dnl Delay evaluation of AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY to the end to allow multiple calls
+dnl to AM_SILENT_RULES to change the default value.
+AC_CONFIG_COMMANDS_PRE([dnl
+case $enable_silent_rules in @%:@ (((
+ yes) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=0;;
+ no) AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=1;;
+esac
+if test $am_cv_make_support_nested_variables = yes; then
+ dnl Using '$V' instead of '$(V)' breaks IRIX make.
+ AM_V='$(V)'
+ AM_DEFAULT_V='$(AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY)'
+else
+ AM_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
+ AM_DEFAULT_V=$AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY
+fi
+])dnl
])
+
+# AM_SILENT_RULES([DEFAULT])
+# --------------------------
+# Set the default verbosity level to DEFAULT ("yes" being less verbose, "no" or
+# empty being verbose).
+AC_DEFUN([AM_SILENT_RULES],
+[AC_REQUIRE([_AM_SILENT_RULES])
+AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY=m4_if([$1], [yes], [0], [1])])
diff --git a/t/list-of-tests.mk b/t/list-of-tests.mk
index d959b68db47b..dbfd8d6d1145 100644
--- a/t/list-of-tests.mk
+++ b/t/list-of-tests.mk
@@ -1015,6 +1015,7 @@ t/sanity.sh \
t/seenc.sh \
t/silent-c.sh \
t/silent-cxx.sh \
+t/silent-defaults.sh \
t/silent-lt.sh \
t/silent-f77.sh \
t/silent-f90.sh \
diff --git a/t/silent-defaults.sh b/t/silent-defaults.sh
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..c4cdee548911
--- /dev/null
+++ b/t/silent-defaults.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,164 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+# Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+#
+# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option)
+# any later version.
+#
+# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+# GNU General Public License for more details.
+#
+# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+# along with this program. If not, see <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+
+# Check verbose mode defaults and behavior.
+
+. test-init.sh
+
+: > Makefile.am
+
+# Default behavior is currently verbose.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$ACLOCAL
+$AUTOMAKE
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+# User doesn't pick a silent mode default before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_SILENT_RULES
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+# User disables silent mode default before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_SILENT_RULES([no])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+# User enables silent mode default before AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_SILENT_RULES([yes])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+# User doesn't pick a silent mode default after AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AM_SILENT_RULES
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+# User disables silent mode default after AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AM_SILENT_RULES([no])
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+# User enables silent mode default after AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.
+cat <<EOF >configure.ac
+AC_INIT([silent-defaults], [1.0])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
+AM_SILENT_RULES([yes])
+AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile])
+AC_OUTPUT
+EOF
+
+$AUTOCONF
+
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --enable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 0' Makefile
+
+./configure -C --disable-silent-rules
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
+
+:
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Fixes automake bug https://bugs.gnu.org/32868.
Looks fine to me.
+./configure -C
+grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
Good :).
I remain steadfastly opposed to (ever) changing the default to be silent
rules, as we've already discussed ad nauseam :). --thanks, karl.
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On 28 Feb 2022 15:58, Karl Berry wrote:
> Fixes automake bug https://bugs.gnu.org/32868.
>
> Looks fine to me.
>
> +./configure -C
> +grep '^AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY = 1' Makefile
>
> Good :).
>
> I remain steadfastly opposed to (ever) changing the default to be silent
> rules, as we've already discussed ad nauseam :).
we shall see :p
-mike
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