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Choose the hash function at random, ensuring that it is free of collisions so that differing keys have differing hash values. This is like a random permutation of the inputs (*note shuf invocation::), except that keys with the same value sort together... OK, but you need to mention some examples of why someone would want to "sort" something "randomly". OK, I have one: You have a list of URLs. You know there are probably duplicates in there, that you want to get rid of. But you also don't want to make it look like you have "machine sorted them." You want them to still look "hand assembled." So you use sort --random-sort --unique on them!
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[184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q7sm58477575pgp.40.2018.12.30.11.26.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:26:57 -0800 (PST) References: <87zhvjnn7z.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Assaf Gordon <assafgordon@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <542dbcd8-034d-3769-2566-969295c8c04f@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:26:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87zhvjnn7z.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8896180FEA94DB90AEAC25B9" Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8896180FEA94DB90AEAC25B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, On 2018-10-12 10:28 a.m., 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > > OK, but you need to mention some examples of why someone would want to > "sort" something "randomly". > Attached is a patch to add examples of shuf/sort -R to the coreutils documentation. (It doesn't deal with "why", that is left to the users to decide when they need it, but it shows clear examples of how to use it). regards, - assaf --------------8896180FEA94DB90AEAC25B9 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="0001-doc-add-examples-of-shuf-sort-R.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-doc-add-examples-of-shuf-sort-R.patch" From a8ae1f29a96b47b9a9c2b26875bd41bfa124e83b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Assaf Gordon <assafgordon@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:21:31 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] doc: add examples of shuf/sort -R Requested by Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> in https://bugs.gnu.org/33025 . * doc/coreutils.texi (randomizing files): New section. --- doc/coreutils.texi | 148 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 148 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/coreutils.texi b/doc/coreutils.texi index 8d303cd56..e05b34ab1 100644 --- a/doc/coreutils.texi +++ b/doc/coreutils.texi @@ -276,6 +276,7 @@ Operating on sorted files * comm invocation:: Compare two sorted files line by line * ptx invocation:: Produce a permuted index of file contents * tsort invocation:: Topological sort +* randomizing files:: Producing random output @command{ptx}: Produce permuted indexes @@ -4192,6 +4193,7 @@ These commands work with (or produce) sorted files. * comm invocation:: Compare two sorted files line by line. * ptx invocation:: Produce a permuted index of file contents. * tsort invocation:: Topological sort. +* randomizing files:: Producing random output @end menu @@ -6018,6 +6020,152 @@ Anyhow, that's where tsort came from. To solve an old problem with the way the linker handled archive files, which has since been solved in different ways. +@node randomizing files +@section Producing random output + +The @command{shuf} and @command{sort -R/--random-sort} commands read input +(sorted or not) and output its lines in a randomized order. +@command{shuf} shuffles all input lines equally, regardless of their content. +@command{sort -R} shuffles the @emph{keys} of the input lines - +lines with identical sort keys will be grouped together: + +@multitable @columnfractions .5 .5 +@item +@example +$ printf '%s\n' A A A B B C D D | shuf +A +C +D +D +A +B +A +B +@end example +@tab +@example +$ printf '%s\n' A A A B B C D D | sort -R +C +D +D +A +A +A +B +B +@end example +@end multitable + +@command{shuf -n @var{count}} outputs at most @var{count} number of lines (i.e., +a sub-sample). @command{sort --random-sort --uniq} outputs one line of each +group in a random order: + +@multitable @columnfractions .5 .5 +@item +@example +$ printf '%s\n' A A A B B C D D | shuf -n5 +B +D +A +D +B +@end example +@tab +@example +$ printf '%s\n' A A A B B C D D | sort -R -u +C +A +B +D +@end example +@end multitable + +@command{sort} operates on keys. Random and non-random keys can be combined +to achieve desired results. In the following examples, the input file @file{in} +contains these lines: + +@example +$ cat in +A 5 +A 3 +A 7 +B 6 +B 4 +C 4 +D 9 +D 8 +@end example + +@command{sort -R} without explicit keys operates on entire lines, +producing unexpected results (as @samp{A 5} and @samp{A 3} do not result +in identical key value): + +@example +$ sort -R in +A 7 +C 4 +A 3 +D 8 +B 6 +B 4 +A 5 +D 9 +@end example + +Specifing explicit key to sort randomly results in the keyed +colomn (letters) in random order (yet same keys groupped together), +and the other column (digits) sorted alphabetically (the default +last-resort sort): + +@example +$ sort -k1,1R in +C 4 +A 3 +A 5 +A 7 +B 4 +B 6 +D 8 +D 9 +@end example + + +In the following example, the first columns (letters) are sorted in +reverse alphabetical order, and the second column (digits) are sorted +randomly: + +@example +$ sort -k1,1r -k2,2R in +D 8 +D 9 +C 4 +B 6 +B 4 +A 7 +A 3 +A 5 +@end example + + +To randomize a single column and keep the input order of all other +columns, use the @option{-s/--stable} option. In the following example +the letters will be groupped in random order, while the digits will +be in the same order as the input file (i.e., the digits in group @samp{A} +will always be @samp{5},@samp{3},@samp{7} - exactly as in the input file): + +@example +$ sort -k1,1R -s in +D 9 +D 8 +B 6 +B 4 +A 5 +A 3 +A 7 +C 4 +@end example + + @node Operating on fields @chapter Operating on fields -- 2.11.0 --------------8896180FEA94DB90AEAC25B9--
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#33025: Add examples of why one would want to "sort" something "randomly" Resent-From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.33025.B33025.154619991516079 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33025 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Assaf Gordon <assafgordon@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>, 33025 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33025-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B33025.154619991516079 (code B ref 33025); Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 33025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 19:58:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gdhEI-0004BH-VD for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:58:35 -0500 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:40144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1gdhEG-0004B1-T7 for 33025 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:58:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7212C160BC2; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:58:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id tMr4Wm6DmiRm; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F96160E4C; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:58:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Cwhyu2zCHSZa; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-23-242-74-103.socal.res.rr.com [23.242.74.103]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98058160BC2; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:58:24 -0800 (PST) References: <87zhvjnn7z.fsf@HIDDEN> <542dbcd8-034d-3769-2566-969295c8c04f@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <ca68d955-d2d4-19a6-caec-88eec0bbea3a@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:58:24 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <542dbcd8-034d-3769-2566-969295c8c04f@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Thanks. Minor comments. The word "groupped" is a misspelling. Instead of " @samp{5},@samp{3},@samp{7} - exactly", write " @samp{5},@samp{3},@samp{7}--exactly"; that is, use an em dash rather than space, hyphen, space. Also, the style in .texi files is to put two spaces (or a newline) at the end of each sentence.
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Maybe add "For example, you might want to hear your songs in a fresh fun order. Or make sure your program still works even if the moms come between or after the pops..." https://www.google.com/search?q=reasons+for+random+order
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