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26.1, emacs-mac 7.2; *Newsticker List* frame's SPC does not next page as expected

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From: Van L <van <at> scratch.space>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.1, emacs-mac 7.2;
 *Newsticker List* frame's SPC does not next page as expected
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 00:37:46 +1100

Hello,

I have two frames:

 1. has Newsticker in treeview having three windows
 2. has one window for the *Newsticker List*

I expect the SPC (spacebar) to page down for frame 2. in the above.

It doesn’t. I believe SPC should map to newsticker-listview-next-page.

C-h k RET SPC ; in *Newsticker List* buffer window with only one frame shows:

— quote
SPC runs the command newsticker-treeview-next-page (found in
newsticker-treeview-list-mode-map), which is an interactive compiled
Lisp function in ‘newst-treeview.el’.

It is bound to SPC.

(newsticker-treeview-next-page)

Scroll item buffer.

[back]
— quote ends

Message #8 received at 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Van L <van <at> scratch.space>
Cc: 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33102: 26.1, emacs-mac 7.2; *Newsticker List* frame's SPC
 does not next page as expected
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:48:21 +0200

Van L <van <at> scratch.space> writes:

> I have two frames:
>
>  1. has Newsticker in treeview having three windows
>  2. has one window for the *Newsticker List*
>
> I expect the SPC (spacebar) to page down for frame 2. in the above.
>
> It doesn’t. I believe SPC should map to newsticker-listview-next-page.
>
> C-h k RET SPC ; in *Newsticker List* buffer window with only one frame shows:
>
> — quote
> SPC runs the command newsticker-treeview-next-page (found in
> newsticker-treeview-list-mode-map), which is an interactive compiled
> Lisp function in ‘newst-treeview.el’.
>
> It is bound to SPC.
>
> (newsticker-treeview-next-page)

I don't use newsticker, so do you have a recipe for how to reproduce
this bug, starting from "emacs -Q"?

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #13 received at 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: VanL <van <at> scratch.space>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33102: 26.1, emacs-mac 7.2;
 *Newsticker List* frame's SPC does not next page as expected
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 00:05:30 +1000

> On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:48, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't use newsticker, so do you have a recipe for how to reproduce
> this bug, starting from "emacs -Q"?

After I got used to gnus I stopped using newsticker.

May I suggest for uniformity that 

  b pages-back and 
  SPC pages-forward 

when the buffer is for reading.  

The two keys left and right of 'b can do what is intuitive in mainly reading-mode.  If memory serves, Capt. Picard in Star Trek is using in the faroff future a keyboard with SPC and 5-keys above it, only.

Message #16 received at 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: VanL <van <at> scratch.space>
Cc: 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33102: 26.1, emacs-mac 7.2;
 *Newsticker List* frame's SPC does not next page as expected
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:28:08 +0200

VanL <van <at> scratch.space> writes:

>> On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:48, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't use newsticker, so do you have a recipe for how to reproduce
>> this bug, starting from "emacs -Q"?
>
> After I got used to gnus I stopped using newsticker.

I guess `M-x newsticker-show-news' is how to reproduce? 

> May I suggest for uniformity that 
>
>   b pages-back and 
>   SPC pages-forward 
>
> when the buffer is for reading.  
>
> The two keys left and right of 'b can do what is intuitive in mainly
> reading-mode.  If memory serves, Capt. Picard in Star Trek is using in
> the faroff future a keyboard with SPC and 5-keys above it, only.

SPC in the Newsticker List window scrolls the Newsticker Item window,
which seems like a natural thing to do (and is the same that Gnus
summary buffer does).

Or did you mean something else?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #19 received at 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: VanL <van <at> scratch.space>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33102: 26.1, emacs-mac 7.2;
 *Newsticker List* frame's SPC does not next page as expected
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 00:52:46 +1000

> On 11 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
> 
> SPC in the Newsticker List window scrolls the Newsticker Item window,
> which seems like a natural thing to do (and is the same that Gnus
> summary buffer does).
> 
> Or did you mean something else?

I try to get used to that natural thing to do.

Yes, I might've been thrown by the 'side-effect' page-down in the next buffer without focus on the item-buffer.

I tried the following setting to allow page down in the summary buffer, directly.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(add-hook 'gnus-summary-mode-hook
	  (lambda ()
	    (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map
	      (kbd "<SPC>") 'scroll-up-command)))

--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Message #22 received at 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: VanL <van <at> scratch.space>
Cc: 33102 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33102: 26.1, emacs-mac 7.2;
 *Newsticker List* frame's SPC does not next page as expected
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:11:53 +0200

VanL <van <at> scratch.space> writes:

>> On 11 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
>> 
>> SPC in the Newsticker List window scrolls the Newsticker Item window,
>> which seems like a natural thing to do (and is the same that Gnus
>> summary buffer does).
>> 
>> Or did you mean something else?
>
> I try to get used to that natural thing to do.
>
> Yes, I might've been thrown by the 'side-effect' page-down in the next
> buffer without focus on the item-buffer.

I think this works as designed, so I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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