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Hi!
I am able to reproduce this on two different computers using macOS 10.14
but I haven't tested this on any other system.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Open Emacs without any configuration: src/emacs -Q
2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
;; FTP URL: ftp.dlptest.com or ftp://ftp.dlptest.com/
;; FTP User: dlpuser@HIDDEN
;; Password: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
(make-thread (lambda()
(message "Listing directory files..")
(let ((files (directory-files
"/ftp:dlpuser@HIDDEN@ftp.dlptest.com:/")))
(message "Opened directory")
(message "Directory files: %s" files))))
4. Run M-x eval-buffer
5. Emacs asks for FTP password, paste in mini-buffer: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
6. Emacs now hangs, asks for password again and you can't stop it using
C-g. You get error in terminal:
Christians-Air:emacs christianjohansson$ src/emacs -Q
2018-10-24 12:07:58.383 emacs[627:14815] Failed to initialize color list
unarchiver: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=4864 "***
-[NSKeyedUnarchiver
_initForReadingFromData:error:throwLegacyExceptions:]: non-keyed archive
cannot be decoded by NSKeyedUnarchiver" UserInfo={NSDebugDescription=***
-[NSKeyedUnarchiver
_initForReadingFromData:error:throwLegacyExceptions:]: non-keyed archive
cannot be decoded by NSKeyedUnarchiver}
2018-10-24 12:08:28.515 emacs[627:15311] WARNING: NSWindow drag regions
should only be invalidated on the Main Thread! This will throw an
exception in the future. Called from (
0 AppKit 0x00007fff334132e3
-[NSWindow(NSWindow_Theme)
_postWindowNeedsToResetDragMarginsUnlessPostingDisabled] + 386
1 AppKit 0x00007fff33435422
-[NSThemeFrame _tileTitlebarAndRedisplay:] + 98
2 AppKit 0x00007fff334604dd
-[NSTitledFrame _titleDidChange] + 217
3 AppKit 0x00007fff3345ff89
-[NSTitledFrame setTitle:] + 730
4 AppKit 0x00007fff3345fc00
-[NSThemeFrame setTitle:] + 50
5 AppKit 0x00007fff33423082
-[NSWindow _dosetTitle:andDefeatWrap:] + 211
6 emacs 0x00000001001e7371
ns_set_name_internal + 161
7 emacs 0x000000010004f640
x_consider_frame_title + 784
8 emacs 0x0000000100028ad5
redisplay_internal + 2949
9 emacs 0x00000001000d1e71
read_char + 2097
10 emacs 0x00000001000cfc1d
read_key_sequence + 1997
11 emacs 0x00000001000ce30c
command_loop_1 + 1228
12 emacs 0x000000010014d103
internal_condition_case + 259
13 emacs 0x00000001000dd400
command_loop_2 + 48
14 emacs 0x000000010014c727
internal_catch + 263
15 emacs 0x00000001000cd338
command_loop + 200
16 emacs 0x00000001000cd220
recursive_edit_1 + 112
17 emacs 0x00000001000fbc33
read_minibuf + 2179
18 emacs 0x00000001000fc0ca
Fread_string + 250
19 emacs 0x000000010014f831
funcall_subr + 353
20 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
21 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
22 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
23 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
24 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
25 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
26 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
27 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
28 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
29 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
30 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
31 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
32 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
33 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
34 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
35 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
36 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
37 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
38 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
39 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
40 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
41 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
42 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
43 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
44 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
45 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
46 emacs 0x000000010014b270 call2 + 48
47 emacs 0x000000010014f7e7
funcall_subr + 279
48 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
49 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
50 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
51 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
52 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
53 emacs 0x000000010014e740 Fapply + 512
54 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
55 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
56 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
57 emacs 0x000000010014e740 Fapply + 512
58 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
59 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
60 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
61 emacs 0x000000010014e740 Fapply + 512
62 emacs 0x000000010014ebc8 Ffuncall
+ 792
63 emacs 0x000000010018ebf6
exec_byte_code + 1814
64 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
65 emacs 0x000000010014f53c call5 + 60
66 emacs 0x000000010014a921 eval_sub
+ 2049
67 emacs 0x000000010014bc8f Flet + 463
68 emacs 0x000000010014a723 eval_sub
+ 1539
69 emacs 0x000000010014fc1d
funcall_lambda + 813
70 emacs 0x000000010014eb2a Ffuncall
+ 634
71 emacs 0x00000001001b69c5
invoke_thread_function + 53
72 emacs 0x000000010014d103
internal_condition_case + 259
73 emacs 0x00000001001b624a
run_thread + 138
74 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff6316d33d
_pthread_body + 126
75 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff631702a7
_pthread_start + 70
76 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff6316c425
thread_start + 13
)
In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-apple-darwin17.6.0, NS
appkit-1561.40 Version 10.13.5 (Build 17F77))
of 2018-06-30 built on Christians-MacBook-Air.local
Repository revision: ed65ea18152636500399a7b6b75c87bac7d4ef2b
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1671
System Description: Mac OS X 10.14
Recent messages:
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/mail/sendmail.el’ newer
than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/gnus/message.el’ newer
than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/mail/mailabbrev.el’
newer than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/gnus/gnus-util.el’ newer
than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/mail/rmail.el’ newer
than byte-compiled file
Source file ‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/epg.el’
newer than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/epg-config.el’ newer
than byte-compiled file
Source file ‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/dired.el’
newer than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/bytecomp.el’
newer than byte-compiled file
Source file
‘/Users/christianjohansson/Documents/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/byte-opt.el’
newer than byte-compiled file
Configured features:
RSVG IMAGEMAGICK DBUS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
NS THREADS
Important settings:
value of $LC_CTYPE: UTF-8
value of $LANG: en_SE.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
eldoc-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny seq byte-opt gv
bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml
mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail
rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils help-mode easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib
apropos elec-pair time-date tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/ns-win ns-win ucs-normalize
mule-util term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode
prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang
vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932
hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic
chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook
help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs
button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5
base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable
backquote dbusbind kqueue cocoa ns multi-tty make-network-process emacs)
Memory information:
((conses 16 206501 10044)
(symbols 48 20198 2)
(miscs 40 35 169)
(strings 32 29396 1914)
(string-bytes 1 776758)
(vectors 16 35414)
(vector-slots 8 727972 11800)
(floats 8 48 68)
(intervals 56 372 0)
(buffers 992 13))
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:15:22PM +0200, Christian Johansson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am able to reproduce this on two different computers using macOS 10.14 but
> I haven't tested this on any other system.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1. Open Emacs without any configuration: src/emacs -Q
> 2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
> 3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
>
> ;; FTP URL: ftp.dlptest.com or ftp://ftp.dlptest.com/
> ;; FTP User: dlpuser@HIDDEN
> ;; Password: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
> (make-thread (lambda()
> (message "Listing directory files..")
> (let ((files (directory-files
> "/ftp:dlpuser@HIDDEN@ftp.dlptest.com:/")))
> (message "Opened directory")
> (message "Directory files: %s" files))))
>
> 4. Run M-x eval-buffer
> 5. Emacs asks for FTP password, paste in mini-buffer: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
> 6. Emacs now hangs, asks for password again and you can't stop it using C-g.
> You get error in terminal:
The NS port currently doesn’t handle interactive functions from
threads very well. I suspect the problem is being caused by displaying
a message from the background thread.
> Christians-Air:emacs christianjohansson$ src/emacs -Q
> 2018-10-24 12:07:58.383 emacs[627:14815] Failed to initialize color list
> unarchiver: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=4864 "***
> -[NSKeyedUnarchiver _initForReadingFromData:error:throwLegacyExceptions:]:
> non-keyed archive cannot be decoded by NSKeyedUnarchiver"
> UserInfo={NSDebugDescription=*** -[NSKeyedUnarchiver
> _initForReadingFromData:error:throwLegacyExceptions:]: non-keyed archive
> cannot be decoded by NSKeyedUnarchiver}
This error will be fixed in Emacs 26.2.
> 2018-10-24 12:08:28.515 emacs[627:15311] WARNING: NSWindow drag regions
> should only be invalidated on the Main Thread! This will throw an exception
> in the future. Called from (
> 0 AppKit 0x00007fff334132e3
> -[NSWindow(NSWindow_Theme)
> _postWindowNeedsToResetDragMarginsUnlessPostingDisabled] + 386
> 1 AppKit 0x00007fff33435422
> -[NSThemeFrame _tileTitlebarAndRedisplay:] + 98
> 2 AppKit 0x00007fff334604dd
> -[NSTitledFrame _titleDidChange] + 217
> 3 AppKit 0x00007fff3345ff89
> -[NSTitledFrame setTitle:] + 730
> 4 AppKit 0x00007fff3345fc00
> -[NSThemeFrame setTitle:] + 50
> 5 AppKit 0x00007fff33423082 -[NSWindow
> _dosetTitle:andDefeatWrap:] + 211
> 6 emacs 0x00000001001e7371
> ns_set_name_internal + 161
> 7 emacs 0x000000010004f640
> x_consider_frame_title + 784
> 8 emacs 0x0000000100028ad5
> redisplay_internal + 2949
<snip>
> 73 emacs 0x00000001001b624a run_thread +
> 138
> 74 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff6316d33d _pthread_body
> + 126
> 75 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff631702a7
> _pthread_start + 70
> 76 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff6316c425 thread_start
> + 13
> )
Yes, we can see redisplay is being called from within the thread, and
that just won’t work currently, I’m afraid.
--
Alan Third
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Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Hi!
Hi,
>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. Open Emacs without any configuration: src/emacs -Q
>> 2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
>> 3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
>>=20
>> ;; FTP URL: ftp.dlptest.com or ftp://ftp.dlptest.com/
>> ;; FTP User: dlpuser@HIDDEN
>> ;; Password: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
>> (make-thread (lambda()
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (message "Listing directory files..")
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (let ((files (directory-files
>> "/ftp:dlpuser@HIDDEN@ftp.dlptest.com:/")))
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (message "Opened directory")
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (message "Directory files: %s" files))))
>>=20
>> 4. Run M-x eval-buffer
>> 5. Emacs asks for FTP password, paste in mini-buffer: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAj=
jn
>> 6. Emacs now hangs, asks for password again and you can't stop it using =
C-g.
>> You get error in terminal:
>
> The NS port currently doesn=E2=80=99t handle interactive functions from
> threads very well. I suspect the problem is being caused by displaying
> a message from the background thread.
It's not only the NS port. There is a git branch
feature/tramp-thread-safe dedicated to make Tramp thread-safe. However,
this doesn't work well yet, see for example bug#25214 / bug#32426.
Furthermore, the "ftp" method navigates from Tramp to Ange-FTP. I
haven't tested this for being thread-safe; given that nobody has worked
on this I would expect even more problems.
Anyway, if you intend to continue to test this functionality, I
recommend you to use the said branch. There are changes which make file
visiting commands async aware, via a prefix command. "C-x & C-x C-f ..."
is supposed to visit files asynchronously. This works for both local
files and remote files; but for local files you'll see the difference
for large files only.
Best regards, Michael.
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Alright, I guessed that the threaded user-interaction wasn't completed
yet, TRAMP without user-interaction seems to work however. Keep up the
good work. At least it should be easy to test it once it's finished with
my test. If you access my example without the treading and Emacs saves
the password it will work inside the thread too I think because there
will be no need for user-interaction
Regards
Christian
On 2018-10-24 12:53, Alan Third wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:15:22PM +0200, Christian Johansson wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I am able to reproduce this on two different computers using macOS 10.14 but
>> I haven't tested this on any other system.
>>
>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. Open Emacs without any configuration: src/emacs -Q
>> 2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
>> 3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
>>
>> ;; FTP URL: ftp.dlptest.com or ftp://ftp.dlptest.com/
>> ;; FTP User: dlpuser@HIDDEN
>> ;; Password: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
>> (make-thread (lambda()
>> (message "Listing directory files..")
>> (let ((files (directory-files
>> "/ftp:dlpuser@HIDDEN@ftp.dlptest.com:/")))
>> (message "Opened directory")
>> (message "Directory files: %s" files))))
>>
>> 4. Run M-x eval-buffer
>> 5. Emacs asks for FTP password, paste in mini-buffer: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
>> 6. Emacs now hangs, asks for password again and you can't stop it using C-g.
>> You get error in terminal:
> The NS port currently doesn’t handle interactive functions from
> threads very well. I suspect the problem is being caused by displaying
> a message from the background thread.
>
>> Christians-Air:emacs christianjohansson$ src/emacs -Q
>> 2018-10-24 12:07:58.383 emacs[627:14815] Failed to initialize color list
>> unarchiver: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=4864 "***
>> -[NSKeyedUnarchiver _initForReadingFromData:error:throwLegacyExceptions:]:
>> non-keyed archive cannot be decoded by NSKeyedUnarchiver"
>> UserInfo={NSDebugDescription=*** -[NSKeyedUnarchiver
>> _initForReadingFromData:error:throwLegacyExceptions:]: non-keyed archive
>> cannot be decoded by NSKeyedUnarchiver}
> This error will be fixed in Emacs 26.2.
>
>> 2018-10-24 12:08:28.515 emacs[627:15311] WARNING: NSWindow drag regions
>> should only be invalidated on the Main Thread! This will throw an exception
>> in the future. Called from (
>> 0 AppKit 0x00007fff334132e3
>> -[NSWindow(NSWindow_Theme)
>> _postWindowNeedsToResetDragMarginsUnlessPostingDisabled] + 386
>> 1 AppKit 0x00007fff33435422
>> -[NSThemeFrame _tileTitlebarAndRedisplay:] + 98
>> 2 AppKit 0x00007fff334604dd
>> -[NSTitledFrame _titleDidChange] + 217
>> 3 AppKit 0x00007fff3345ff89
>> -[NSTitledFrame setTitle:] + 730
>> 4 AppKit 0x00007fff3345fc00
>> -[NSThemeFrame setTitle:] + 50
>> 5 AppKit 0x00007fff33423082 -[NSWindow
>> _dosetTitle:andDefeatWrap:] + 211
>> 6 emacs 0x00000001001e7371
>> ns_set_name_internal + 161
>> 7 emacs 0x000000010004f640
>> x_consider_frame_title + 784
>> 8 emacs 0x0000000100028ad5
>> redisplay_internal + 2949
> <snip>
>> 73 emacs 0x00000001001b624a run_thread +
>> 138
>> 74 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff6316d33d _pthread_body
>> + 126
>> 75 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff631702a7
>> _pthread_start + 70
>> 76 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff6316c425 thread_start
>> + 13
>> )
> Yes, we can see redisplay is being called from within the thread, and
> that just won’t work currently, I’m afraid.
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Hi Michael
Alright, I'll check out that branch and continue testing here.
Asynchronous TRAMP via FTP/SSH without user-interaction seems to work on
master branch most of the time but I have experienced some occasional
crashes that you don't get when running synchronously. Will start Emacs
from my terminal to see if I get any errors there if it crashes
Regards
Christian
On 2018-10-24 13:12, Michael Albinus wrote:
> Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>>> Hi!
> Hi,
>
>>> Steps to reproduce:
>>> 1. Open Emacs without any configuration: src/emacs -Q
>>> 2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
>>> 3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
>>>
>>> ;; FTP URL: ftp.dlptest.com or ftp://ftp.dlptest.com/
>>> ;; FTP User: dlpuser@HIDDEN
>>> ;; Password: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
>>> (make-thread (lambda()
>>> (message "Listing directory files..")
>>> (let ((files (directory-files
>>> "/ftp:dlpuser@HIDDEN@ftp.dlptest.com:/")))
>>> (message "Opened directory")
>>> (message "Directory files: %s" files))))
>>>
>>> 4. Run M-x eval-buffer
>>> 5. Emacs asks for FTP password, paste in mini-buffer: e73jzTRTNqCN9PYAAjjn
>>> 6. Emacs now hangs, asks for password again and you can't stop it using C-g.
>>> You get error in terminal:
>> The NS port currently doesn’t handle interactive functions from
>> threads very well. I suspect the problem is being caused by displaying
>> a message from the background thread.
> It's not only the NS port. There is a git branch
> feature/tramp-thread-safe dedicated to make Tramp thread-safe. However,
> this doesn't work well yet, see for example bug#25214 / bug#32426.
>
> Furthermore, the "ftp" method navigates from Tramp to Ange-FTP. I
> haven't tested this for being thread-safe; given that nobody has worked
> on this I would expect even more problems.
>
> Anyway, if you intend to continue to test this functionality, I
> recommend you to use the said branch. There are changes which make file
> visiting commands async aware, via a prefix command. "C-x & C-x C-f ..."
> is supposed to visit files asynchronously. This works for both local
> files and remote files; but for local files you'll see the difference
> for large files only.
>
> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi Michael
Hi Christian,
> Alright, I'll check out that branch and continue testing
> here. Asynchronous TRAMP via FTP/SSH without user-interaction seems to
> work on master branch most of the time
The simple case: yes. It will be more interesting if you visit several
(many!) files in parallel. My usual test case is "C-x & C-x C-f
/ssh::~/src/emacs-test/admin/*.el" ("~/src/emacs" is the location of the
Emacs repository on my machine).
You might also open a second frame in parallel, and run "M-x list-threads"
there. This will show you how threads evolve.
If you want to know more about asynchronous file visiting, you might
consult (info "(emacs) Visiting") in the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch.
> but I have experienced some occasional crashes that you don't get when
> running synchronously. Will start Emacs from my terminal to see if I
> get any errors there if it crashes
Yes, pls report.
> Regards
> Christian
Best regards, Michael.
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Hi Michael
I haven't experienced a single crash since I started using your threaded
tramp branch but I sometimes get errors like this, but it doesn't make
Emacs crash, I can just retry same operation and it will work. It seems
like sometimes a thread is busy and Emacs tries to access it in some way
and this error occurs, I have replaced sensitive information with --- below
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Attempt to accept output from
process *ftp ---...")
accept-process-output(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
ange-ftp-wait-not-busy(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd(#<process *ftp ---@---*> "type ascii" nil
(#f(compiled-function (result line host user cmd msg cont nowait)
#<bytecode 0x4ffee879>) "---" "---" "type ascii" nil nil nil) nil)
I haven't tried threaded tramp that requires user-interaction yet though
since I got ~/.authinfo.gpg working with ange-ftp, I'll see if I can
test that this week
Regards
Christian
On 2018-10-25 10:35, Michael Albinus wrote:
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Hi Michael
> Hi Christian,
>
>> Alright, I'll check out that branch and continue testing
>> here. Asynchronous TRAMP via FTP/SSH without user-interaction seems to
>> work on master branch most of the time
> The simple case: yes. It will be more interesting if you visit several
> (many!) files in parallel. My usual test case is "C-x & C-x C-f
> /ssh::~/src/emacs-test/admin/*.el" ("~/src/emacs" is the location of the
> Emacs repository on my machine).
>
> You might also open a second frame in parallel, and run "M-x list-threads"
> there. This will show you how threads evolve.
>
> If you want to know more about asynchronous file visiting, you might
> consult (info "(emacs) Visiting") in the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch.
>
>> but I have experienced some occasional crashes that you don't get when
>> running synchronously. Will start Emacs from my terminal to see if I
>> get any errors there if it crashes
> Yes, pls report.
>
>> Regards
>> Christian
> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi Michael
Hi Christian,
> I haven't experienced a single crash since I started using your
> threaded tramp branch but I sometimes get errors like this, but it
> doesn't make Emacs crash, I can just retry same operation and it will
> work. It seems like sometimes a thread is busy and Emacs tries to
> access it in some way and this error occurs, I have replaced sensitive
> information with --- below
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Attempt to accept output from
> process *ftp ---...")
> =C2=A0 accept-process-output(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
> =C2=A0 ange-ftp-wait-not-busy(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
> =C2=A0 ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd(#<process *ftp ---@---*> "type ascii" nil
> (#f(compiled-function (result line host user cmd msg cont nowait)
> #<bytecode 0x4ffee879>) "---" "---" "type ascii" nil nil nil) nil)
Looks like the ange-ftp process is not assigned to the proper thread. As
said, ange-ftp is a special case, it wasn't handled yet.
I've pushed a fix to the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch; should work
now. Could you pls retest?
> I haven't tried threaded tramp that requires user-interaction yet
> though since I got ~/.authinfo.gpg working with ange-ftp, I'll see if
> I can test that this week
Likely, this won't work. Nobody has provided a fix for this problem, yet.
> Regards
> Christian
Best regards, Michael.
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Alright, I=E2=80=99ll see if I can get the error again. I only got it like 2=
times in 8 hours so it=E2=80=99s not frequent.
I tried user-interaction via threaded ange-ftp tramp on macOS and it seems t=
o work on your branch. I will try it a bit more this week.
Regards
Christian
> 5 nov. 2018 kl. 14:49 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> Hi Michael
>=20
> Hi Christian,
>=20
>> I haven't experienced a single crash since I started using your
>> threaded tramp branch but I sometimes get errors like this, but it
>> doesn't make Emacs crash, I can just retry same operation and it will
>> work. It seems like sometimes a thread is busy and Emacs tries to
>> access it in some way and this error occurs, I have replaced sensitive
>> information with --- below
>>=20
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Attempt to accept output from
>> process *ftp ---...")
>> accept-process-output(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
>> ange-ftp-wait-not-busy(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
>> ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd(#<process *ftp ---@---*> "type ascii" nil
>> (#f(compiled-function (result line host user cmd msg cont nowait)
>> #<bytecode 0x4ffee879>) "---" "---" "type ascii" nil nil nil) nil)
>=20
> Looks like the ange-ftp process is not assigned to the proper thread. As
> said, ange-ftp is a special case, it wasn't handled yet.
>=20
> I've pushed a fix to the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch; should work
> now. Could you pls retest?
>=20
>> I haven't tried threaded tramp that requires user-interaction yet
>> though since I got ~/.authinfo.gpg working with ange-ftp, I'll see if
>> I can test that this week
>=20
> Likely, this won't work. Nobody has provided a fix for this problem, yet.
>=20
>> Regards
>> Christian
>=20
> Best regards, Michael.
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I was wrong, interactive threaded tramp over ange-ftp on macos doesn=E2=80=99=
t work. I have got more crashes lately after I updated branch, not sure if e=
rrors help but here are some:
;; Opening remote file=20
emacs(16737,0x700004306000) malloc: *** error for object 0x11cb50885: pointe=
r being freed was not allocated emacs(16737,0x111d105c0) malloc: *** error f=
or object 0x7ffeefbfb610: pointer being freed was not allocated emacs(16737,=
0x700004306000) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug e=
macs(16737,0x111d105c0) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break t=
o debug Fatal error 6: Abort trapAbort trap: 6 logout Saving session... ...s=
aving history...truncating history files... ...completed.
;; Renaming file over SSH via tramp=20
objc[40791]: Invalid or prematurely-freed autorelease pool 0x10200b1c0. Fata=
l error 6: Abort trapAbort trap: 6=20
;; another local sudo
emacs(41111,0x70000c892000) malloc: *** error for object 0x70000d093530: poi=
nter being freed was not allocated emacs(41111,0x70000c892000) malloc: *** s=
et a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug Fatal error 4: Illegal instru=
ctionAbort trap: 6=20
;; another remote dired over SSH
emacs(40323,0x1181f95c0) malloc: *** error for object 0x103337305: pointer b=
eing freed was not allocated emacs(40323,0x1181f95c0) malloc: *** set a brea=
kpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
> 5 nov. 2018 kl. 16:39 skrev Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Alright, I=E2=80=99ll see if I can get the error again. I only got it like=
2 times in 8 hours so it=E2=80=99s not frequent.
>=20
> I tried user-interaction via threaded ange-ftp tramp on macOS and it seem=
s to work on your branch. I will try it a bit more this week.
>=20
> Regards
> Christian
>=20
>> 5 nov. 2018 kl. 14:49 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
>>=20
>> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>>=20
>>> Hi Michael
>>=20
>> Hi Christian,
>>=20
>>> I haven't experienced a single crash since I started using your
>>> threaded tramp branch but I sometimes get errors like this, but it
>>> doesn't make Emacs crash, I can just retry same operation and it will
>>> work. It seems like sometimes a thread is busy and Emacs tries to
>>> access it in some way and this error occurs, I have replaced sensitive
>>> information with --- below
>>>=20
>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Attempt to accept output from
>>> process *ftp ---...")
>>> accept-process-output(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
>>> ange-ftp-wait-not-busy(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)
>>> ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd(#<process *ftp ---@---*> "type ascii" nil
>>> (#f(compiled-function (result line host user cmd msg cont nowait)
>>> #<bytecode 0x4ffee879>) "---" "---" "type ascii" nil nil nil) nil)
>>=20
>> Looks like the ange-ftp process is not assigned to the proper thread. As
>> said, ange-ftp is a special case, it wasn't handled yet.
>>=20
>> I've pushed a fix to the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch; should work
>> now. Could you pls retest?
>>=20
>>> I haven't tried threaded tramp that requires user-interaction yet
>>> though since I got ~/.authinfo.gpg working with ange-ftp, I'll see if
>>> I can test that this week
>>=20
>> Likely, this won't work. Nobody has provided a fix for this problem, yet.=
>>=20
>>> Regards
>>> Christian
>>=20
>> Best regards, Michael.
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as wrong, interactive threaded tramp over ange-ftp on macos doesn=E2=80=99t w=
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ass=3D"built_in" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">error</span> <span class=3D"ke=
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emacs(<span class=3D"number">16737</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x111d105c0=
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bject <span class=3D"number">0x7ffeefbfb610</span>: pointer being freed was <=
span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">not</span> allocated
emacs(<span class=3D"number">16737</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x700004306=
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nt-weight: bold;">in</span> malloc_error_break to <span class=3D"built_in" s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">debug</span>
emacs(<span class=3D"number">16737</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x111d105c0=
</span>) malloc: *** set a breakpoint <span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">in</span> malloc_error_break to <span class=3D"built_in" styl=
e=3D"font-weight: bold;">debug</span>
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logout
Saving session...
...saving history...truncating history files...
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gba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"bac=
kground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">;; Renaming file over SSH via tramp&=
nbsp;</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255=
, 255, 255, 0);">objc[<span class=3D"number">40791</span>]: Invalid <span cl=
ass=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">or</span> prematurely-freed aut=
orelease pool <span class=3D"number">0x10200b1c0</span>.
Fatal <span class=3D"built_in" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">error</span> <sp=
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</span> </span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: r=
gba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"bac=
kground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> ;; another local sudo</span></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)=
;">emacs(<span class=3D"number">41111</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x70000c=
892000</span>) malloc: *** <span class=3D"built_in" style=3D"font-weight: bo=
ld;">error</span> <span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">for</=
span> object <span class=3D"number">0x70000d093530</span>: pointer being fre=
ed was <span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">not</span> alloc=
ated
emacs(<span class=3D"number">41111</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x70000c892=
000</span>) malloc: *** set a breakpoint <span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">in</span> malloc_error_break to <span class=3D"built_in" s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">debug</span>
Fatal <span class=3D"built_in" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">error</span> <sp=
an class=3D"number">4</span>: Illegal instructionAbort trap: <span class=3D"=
number">6</span>
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255=
, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-colo=
r: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">;; another remote dired over SSH</span></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">emac=
s(<span class=3D"number">40323</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x1181f95c0</sp=
an>) malloc: *** <span class=3D"built_in" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">error=
</span> <span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">for</span> obje=
ct <span class=3D"number">0x103337305</span>: pointer being freed was <span c=
lass=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">not</span> allocated
emacs(<span class=3D"number">40323</span>,<span class=3D"number">0x1181f95c0=
</span>) malloc: *** set a breakpoint <span class=3D"keyword" style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">in</span> malloc_error_break to <span class=3D"built_in" styl=
e=3D"font-weight: bold;">debug</span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>5 nov=
. 2018 kl. 16:39 skrev Christian Johansson <<a href=3D"mailto:christian@c=
vj.se">christian@HIDDEN</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><span>Alright, I=E2=80=99ll see if I can get the error again. I=
only got it like 2 times in 8 hours so it=E2=80=99s not frequent.</span><br=
><span></span><br><span>I tried user-interaction via threaded ange-ftp  =
;tramp on macOS and it seems to work on your branch. I will try it a bit mor=
e this week.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Regards</span><br><span>Christ=
ian</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>5 nov. 2018 k=
l. 14:49 skrev Michael Albinus <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.albinus@HIDDEN"=
>michael.albinus@HIDDEN</a>>:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Christia=
n Johansson <<a href=3D"mailto:christian@HIDDEN">christian@HIDDEN</a>>=
writes:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Hi Mic=
hael</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></s=
pan><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Hi Christian,</span><br=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I haven't experienced a s=
ingle crash since I started using your</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>threaded tramp bran=
ch but I sometimes get errors like this, but it</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>doesn't ma=
ke Emacs crash, I can just retry same operation and it will</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>work. It seems like sometimes a thread is busy and Emacs tries to</span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>access it in some way and this error occurs, I have replaced sensi=
tive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>information with --- below</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Attempt to accept output fr=
om</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
type=3D"cite"><span>process *ftp ---...")</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> accept-p=
rocess-output(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> ange-=
ftp-wait-not-busy(#<process *ftp ---@---*>)</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> a=
nge-ftp-raw-send-cmd(#<process *ftp ---@---*> "type ascii" nil</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>(#f(compiled-function (result line host user cmd msg cont nowait)=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>#<bytecode 0x4ffee879>) "---" "---" "type ascii" ni=
l nil nil) nil)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Looks like t=
he ange-ftp process is not assigned to the proper thread. As</span><br></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>said, ange-ftp is a special case, it=
wasn't handled yet.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I've pushed a fix to=
the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch; should work</span><br></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span>now. Could you pls retest?</span><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I haven't tried threaded tramp tha=
t requires user-interaction yet</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>though since I got ~/.auth=
info.gpg working with ange-ftp, I'll see if</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I can test tha=
t this week</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><s=
pan></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Likely, this won=
't work. Nobody has provided a fix for this problem, yet.</span><br></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Regards</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Christi=
an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></spa=
n><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Best regards, Michael.</s=
pan><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></body></html>=
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
Hi Christian,
> I was wrong, interactive threaded tramp over ange-ftp on macos doesn=E2=
=80=99t
> work. I have got more crashes lately after I updated branch, not sure
> if errors help but here are some:
Are these crashes just in case a user interaction with the thread was
needed, or does it happen also when a (remote) file is just visited in a
buffer, without any interaction?
In the latter case, could you pls describe your scenario?
Best regards, Michael.
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Hi
Both scenarios cause the crashes, user-interaction for password with
threaded tramp seems to always crash emacs on macOS. The window doesn't
close but there is a error in the terminal and emacs gets stuck
In the other scenario I have repeatedly got the error when visiting a
archive (find-file) on remote ssh tramp host that is also piped into
another user like this:
(find-file
"/ssh:user@HIDDEN|sudo:otheruser@HIDDEN:/home/otheruser/myzip.zip")
It crashes when I do it synchronously (unthreaded)
I also think I get the error when visiting directory in dired like
(dired
"/ssh:user@HIDDEN|sudo:otheruser@HIDDEN:/home/otheruser/"), also
unthreaded
On 2018-11-07 08:48, Michael Albinus wrote:
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> Hi Christian,
>
>> I was wrong, interactive threaded tramp over ange-ftp on macos doesn’t
>> work. I have got more crashes lately after I updated branch, not sure
>> if errors help but here are some:
> Are these crashes just in case a user interaction with the thread was
> needed, or does it happen also when a (remote) file is just visited in a
> buffer, without any interaction?
>
> In the latter case, could you pls describe your scenario?
>
> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi
Hi Christian,
> In the other scenario I have repeatedly got the error when visiting a
> archive (find-file) on remote ssh tramp host that is also piped into
> another user like this:
> (find-file
> "/ssh:user@HIDDEN|sudo:otheruser@HIDDEN:/home/otheruser/myzip.zip")
>
> It crashes when I do it synchronously (unthreaded)
>
> I also think I get the error when visiting directory in dired like
> (dired
> "/ssh:user@HIDDEN|sudo:otheruser@HIDDEN:/home/otheruser/"),
> also unthreaded
Does it happen only in the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch, or also in
the master branch?
Anyway, I cant reproduce it locally on GNU/Linux, so there is something
wrong in the macOS implementation of threads I fear.
Best regards, Michael.
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Hi!
I don=E2=80=99t get the error on master, just this branch. I tried setting e=
xecute-file-commands-asynchronously to nil to make sure it=E2=80=99s unthrea=
ded with same result
Regards
Christian
> 9 nov. 2018 kl. 11:12 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> Hi
>=20
> Hi Christian,
>=20
>> In the other scenario I have repeatedly got the error when visiting a
>> archive (find-file) on remote ssh tramp host that is also piped into
>> another user like this:
>> (find-file
>> "/ssh:user@HIDDEN|sudo:otheruser@HIDDEN:/home/otheruser/myzip.zip=
")
>>=20
>> It crashes when I do it synchronously (unthreaded)
>>=20
>> I also think I get the error when visiting directory in dired like
>> (dired
>> "/ssh:user@HIDDEN|sudo:otheruser@HIDDEN:/home/otheruser/"),
>> also unthreaded
>=20
> Does it happen only in the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch, or also in
> the master branch?
>=20
> Anyway, I cant reproduce it locally on GNU/Linux, so there is something
> wrong in the macOS implementation of threads I fear.
>=20
> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
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> I don=E2=80=99t get the error on master, just this branch. I tried setting
> execute-file-commands-asynchronously to nil to make sure it=E2=80=99s
> unthreaded with same result
Strange. Could you bisect the branch in order to find out, when this
problem started to appear? I would do myself, but there's no macOS
machine around.
> Regards
> Christian
Best regards, Michael.
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Hi again
Sure l=E2=80=99ll do that next week
Regards
> 11 nov. 2018 kl. 09:53 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> Hi!
>=20
> Hi Christian,
>=20
>> I don=E2=80=99t get the error on master, just this branch. I tried settin=
g
>> execute-file-commands-asynchronously to nil to make sure it=E2=80=99s
>> unthreaded with same result
>=20
> Strange. Could you bisect the branch in order to find out, when this
> problem started to appear? I would do myself, but there's no macOS
> machine around.
>=20
>> Regards
>> Christian
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Hi Michael
As of latest commit 90ae...5d93 I am no longer able to reproduce the issue, w=
as just about to start bisecting now
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> 11 nov. 2018 kl. 09:53 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
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> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
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>> Hi!
>=20
> Hi Christian,
>=20
>> I don=E2=80=99t get the error on master, just this branch. I tried settin=
g
>> execute-file-commands-asynchronously to nil to make sure it=E2=80=99s
>> unthreaded with same result
>=20
> Strange. Could you bisect the branch in order to find out, when this
> problem started to appear? I would do myself, but there's no macOS
> machine around.
>=20
>> Regards
>> Christian
>=20
> Best regards, Michael.
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Oh wait, false positive. Issue doesn=E2=80=99t come when running without mac=
OS window system (-nw) but only with window system.
Will start bisecting now
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> 14 nov. 2018 kl. 08:59 skrev Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN>:
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>> 11 nov. 2018 kl. 09:53 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
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>>> Hi!
>>=20
>> Hi Christian,
>>=20
>>> I don=E2=80=99t get the error on master, just this branch. I tried setti=
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>>> execute-file-commands-asynchronously to nil to make sure it=E2=80=99s
>>> unthreaded with same result
>>=20
>> Strange. Could you bisect the branch in order to find out, when this
>> problem started to appear? I would do myself, but there's no macOS
>> machine around.
>>=20
>>> Regards
>>> Christian
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>> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi Michael
Hi Christian,
> As of latest commit 90ae...5d93 I am no longer able to reproduce the issue, was just about to start bisecting now
Great! Maybe this is due to the last merge with master; some problems
with macOS were reported there.
I'm closing the bug. Feel free to report if there are further problems.
Thanks for your work and testing on the feature/tramp-thread-safe
branch!
> Regards
> Christian
Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Oh wait, false positive. Issue doesn=E2=80=99t come when running without =
macOS window system (-nw) but only with window system.
OK, will wait.
> Will start bisecting now
Thanks!
> Regards
> Christian
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Hi again
The issue didn=E2=80=99t happen without a init file so I narrowed down the i=
ssue to this line in my init file:
(when (fboundp =E2=80=99global-ede-mode) (global-ede-mode nil))
It only happens on this branch and when accessing tramp for some reason. t o=
r nil as argument causes same behavior
> 14 nov. 2018 kl. 09:08 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> Oh wait, false positive. Issue doesn=E2=80=99t come when running without m=
acOS window system (-nw) but only with window system.
>=20
> OK, will wait.
>=20
>> Will start bisecting now
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
>> Regards
>> Christian
>=20
> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi again
Hi Christian,
> The issue didn=E2=80=99t happen without a init file so I narrowed down the
> issue to this line in my init file:
>
> (when (fboundp =E2=80=99global-ede-mode) (global-ede-mode nil))
>
> It only happens on this branch and when accessing tramp for some
> reason. t or nil as argument causes same behavior
Thanks for investigation! So I guess a simple (require 'ede) would
already cause the trouble in "emacs -Q"?
Do you have a chance to debug or trace ede?
Best regards, Michael.
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Hi again
(require =E2=80=99ede) + open tramp file doesn=E2=80=99t cause bug, only (gl=
obal-ede-mode) + open tramp file. Local files are fine
I=E2=80=99ll try get a backtrace later, do you recommend GDB for that?
Regards
Chris
> 16 nov. 2018 kl. 12:53 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> Hi again
>=20
> Hi Christian,
>=20
>> The issue didn=E2=80=99t happen without a init file so I narrowed down th=
e
>> issue to this line in my init file:
>>=20
>> (when (fboundp =E2=80=99global-ede-mode) (global-ede-mode nil))
>>=20
>> It only happens on this branch and when accessing tramp for some
>> reason. t or nil as argument causes same behavior
>=20
> Thanks for investigation! So I guess a simple (require 'ede) would
> already cause the trouble in "emacs -Q"?
>=20
> Do you have a chance to debug or trace ede?
>=20
> Best regards, Michael.
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi again
Hi Christian,
> I=E2=80=99ll try get a backtrace later, do you recommend GDB for that?
Yes. But I have no experience to debug threads with GDB. See
<https://debbugs.gnu.org/32537>, where somebody has debugged threaded
Tramp with gdb.
> Regards
> Chris
Best regards, Michael.
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Hi again!
Git bisect found that the commit causing this is: 917...933 find-file-asynch=
ronously can alse be regexp, it works before that
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>> I=E2=80=99ll try get a backtrace later, do you recommend GDB for that?
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> Tramp with gdb.
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>> Regards
>> Chris
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Christian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
> 10.14 but I haven't tested this on any other system.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
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> 2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
> 3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)
This was three years ago -- are you still seeing these issues with
recent Emacs versions?
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Yes I think so, I don't use macOS anymore but last time I used multithreadin=
g on macOS Emacs dies occasionally. Sometimes I get it on Ubuntu as well but=
it happens much more rare ans much less deterministically
> 24 apr. 2022 kl. 16:42 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFChristian Johansson <christian@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> 10.14 but I haven't tested this on any other system.
>>=20
>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. Open Emacs without any configuration: src/emacs -Q
>> 2. Make sure you are in *scratch* buffer
>> 3. Paste following Emacs Lisp code:
>=20
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
> at the time.)
>=20
> This was three years ago -- are you still seeing these issues with
> recent Emacs versions?
>=20
> --=20
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
> bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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