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Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names" variable

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From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names" variable
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:29:03 +0800

In Calendar, if one doesn't want to see ambiguous time zones names, like "CST",
in .emacs one must put e.g.,
(setq calendar-standard-time-zone-name "+0800")

I.e., if the user enjoys seeing numeric time zone names, just like the
mail headers surely above, he must "do it himself".

Therefore please add a
(setq calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names t) ; enabled
new variable.

See also
(info "(emacs) Sunrise/Sunset")

Message #8 received at 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33149: Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names"
 variable
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:43:15 +0200

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

> In Calendar, if one doesn't want to see ambiguous time zones names, like "CST",
> in .emacs one must put e.g.,
> (setq calendar-standard-time-zone-name "+0800")
>
> I.e., if the user enjoys seeing numeric time zone names, just like the
> mail headers surely above, he must "do it himself".

Message doesn't use those things, so I'm not sure what you're referring to:

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:29:03 +0800

In what circumstances do you see Emacs using "CST"?  They should all be
stamped out.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #11 received at 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33149: Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names"
 variable
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:14:35 +0800

>>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
LI> 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

>> In Calendar, if one doesn't want to see ambiguous time zones names, like "CST",
>> in .emacs one must put e.g.,
>> (setq calendar-standard-time-zone-name "+0800")
>> 
>> I.e., if the user enjoys seeing numeric time zone names, just like the
>> mail headers surely above, he must "do it himself".

LI> Message doesn't use those things, so I'm not sure what you're referring to:

OK never mind that I mentioned mail headers. Just concentrate on the
fact that I'm talking about calendar.

LI> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:29:03 +0800

LI> In what circumstances do you see Emacs using "CST"?  They should all be
LI> stamped out.  :-)

LI> -- 
LI> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
LI>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #14 received at 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33149: Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names"
 variable
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 10:52:38 +0200

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

>>>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> LI> 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:
>
>>> In Calendar, if one doesn't want to see ambiguous time zones names,
>>> like "CST",
>>> in .emacs one must put e.g.,
>>> (setq calendar-standard-time-zone-name "+0800")
>>> 
>>> I.e., if the user enjoys seeing numeric time zone names, just like the
>>> mail headers surely above, he must "do it himself".
>
> LI> Message doesn't use those things, so I'm not sure what you're referring to:
>
> OK never mind that I mentioned mail headers. Just concentrate on the
> fact that I'm talking about calendar.

So where are you seeing these time zones?  Please provide a recipe to
see the problem.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33149: Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names"
 variable
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 14:20:52 +0800

>>>> In Calendar, if one doesn't want to see ambiguous time zones names,
>>>> like "CST",
>>>> in .emacs one must put e.g.,
>>>> (setq calendar-standard-time-zone-name "+0800")

                                             ^^^^^^had to hardwire a
                                             certain number, because
                                             there is no way to tell it
                                             to just show me numbers,
                                             instead of names.

LI> So where are you seeing these time zones?  Please provide a recipe to
LI> see the problem.

$ emacs -Q -nw -f calendar
S [calendar-sunrise-sunset]
120.2 24 [longitude latitude]

Aug 9, 2020: Sunrise 5:33am (CST), sunset 6:36pm (CST) at 24N, 120.2E (13:03 hrs daylight)

Message #20 received at 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 33149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33149: Please add a "calender-use-numeric-time-zone-names"
 variable
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 12:34:53 +0200

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

> $ emacs -Q -nw -f calendar
> S [calendar-sunrise-sunset]
> 120.2 24 [longitude latitude]
>
> Aug 9, 2020: Sunrise 5:33am (CST), sunset 6:36pm (CST) at 24N, 120.2E
> (13:03 hrs daylight)

Thanks.  I've now added a new variable calendar-use-numeric-time-zones
to Emacs 28.1.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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