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27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 09:54:33 +0100

Hi

I started Emacs and then gnus and my system got almost frozen.
I run the following script

#!/usr/bin/python

# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
import re
import sys

from ps_mem import main

if __name__ == '__main__':
    sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0])
    sys.exit(main())

And obtained:
Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program
 6.4 GiB + 375.0 KiB =   6.4 GiB       emacs-27.0.50

This cannot be good. How can I debug this?

Uwe Brauer 


In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2018-04-26 built on Utnapischtim
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Message #10 received at 33560-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 33560-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 20:25:24 -0500

Closing; a less informative version of bug#33561.
You don't need to report identical issues separately to Gnus and Emacs.

Message #13 received at 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:54:54 +0100

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>>> "GNU" == GNU bug Tracking System <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> writes:

   > Your bug report
   > #33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

   > which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

   > The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
   > If you require more details, please reply to 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

Eli

I think you closed the bug. However it seems to me a gnus bug, not a
real emacs core bug. However, gnus is now part of core emacs and that is
why the two BUG system are unified. 

That is why  I think the bug should be left open since it cannot be that a 4 MB
attachment under gnus consumes 7 GB of RAM.

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Message #16 received at 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:26:50 +0200

> From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
> Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
> 	Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> 
> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:54:54 +0100
> 
> Eli
> 
> I think you closed the bug.

It wasn't me, it was Glenn.  You can clearly see that in the bug
report, https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=33560.

> However it seems to me a gnus bug, not a real emacs core
> bug. However, gnus is now part of core emacs and that is why the two
> BUG system are unified.
> 
> That is why I think the bug should be left open since it cannot be
> that a 4 MB attachment under gnus consumes 7 GB of RAM.

It's a bug in ImageMagick, an external library Emacs/Gnus uses to
display djvu files.  I suggest to take the problem up with ImageMagick
developers, perhaps they know how to solve it or work around it.

Message #19 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:43:54 +0100

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   > It wasn't me, it was Glenn.  You can clearly see that in the bug
   > report, https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=33560.

Ok point taken. I should have accessed debugs via gmane, where the
conversations are clearly visible. I did not see Glenn post before.

   > It's a bug in ImageMagick, an external library Emacs/Gnus uses to
   > display djvu files. I suggest to take the problem up with
   > ImageMagick developers, perhaps they know how to solve it or work
   > around it.

The point is that gnus does not display any attachment, just presents a
button (so that I can download the attachment if I wish). That is why I
doubt that ImageMagick is responsible.

It would be good, if one of the gnus developer would comment on this
issue. I will now reply to Glenn's message.

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Message #22 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:45:03 +0100

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>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

   > Closing; a less informative version of bug#33561.
   > You don't need to report identical issues separately to Gnus and Emacs.

The reason is that gnus still has it own gnus-bug function. Maybe it is
time to remove that function in order to avoid double posting?

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Message #25 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:49:12 +0100

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>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

   > Closing; a less informative version of bug#33561.

As I just said in a different message. Gnus does not display any
attachment, so I fail to see why ImageMagick should be the culprit if it
is not invoked. Anybody well acquainted with gnus/or developer could
comment on that issue. I still think it is a bug.



   > You don't need to report identical issues separately to Gnus and Emacs.

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Message #28 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:17:18 +0200

> From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:43:54 +0100
> 
>    > It's a bug in ImageMagick, an external library Emacs/Gnus uses to
>    > display djvu files. I suggest to take the problem up with
>    > ImageMagick developers, perhaps they know how to solve it or work
>    > around it.
> 
> The point is that gnus does not display any attachment, just presents a
> button (so that I can download the attachment if I wish). That is why I
> doubt that ImageMagick is responsible.

I think Gnus does invoke ImageMagick, even if it doesn't display the
image, as part of creating the button.  You can see if that is true
by attaching the debugger to Emacs while it is growing its memory
footprint: if I'm right, you will see some ImageMagick function(s) on
the callstack.

> It would be good, if one of the gnus developer would comment on this
> issue.

Agreed.

Message #31 received at 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:19:34 -0500

Reporting the same bug to multiple places is inefficient.
In this case, it is completely pointless, since Gnus is part of Emacs
and all Gnus bugs are Emacs bugs. You created two identical consecutive
bug reports in the same tracking system and are now splitting the
discussion between them.

Message #34 received at 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:37:01 -0500

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> I think Gnus does invoke ImageMagick, even if it doesn't display the
> image, as part of creating the button. 

If that is the default behaviour, it sounds like a security issue.

Message #43 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 18:57:32 +0100

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>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

   > Reporting the same bug to multiple places is inefficient.

I apologize. I wasn't sure whether it was a gnus or a emacs core bug and
I forgot that gnus is now part of emacs core. I strongly suggest to
remove the function gnus-bug, to prevent further 'misuse' in the future.

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Message #46 received at 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: oub <at> mat.ucm.es, 33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 20:04:01 +0200

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>,  33560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:37:01 -0500
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > I think Gnus does invoke ImageMagick, even if it doesn't display the
> > image, as part of creating the button. 
> 
> If that is the default behaviour, it sounds like a security issue.

I'm not sure why that is a security issue, but what I had in mind was
the calculation of the image size.

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