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27.0.50; Autoload generation during package installation pollutes recent-files list

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From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50; Autoload generation during package installation pollutes
 recent-files list
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 14:31:38 -0500

Hi all,

Generating autoloads as part of installing a package creates an entry in the recentf list.  For example, if I start emacs -Q, run M-x recentf-mode and M-x package-install RET company RET, then run M-x recentf-open-files, I see this:

  [1] /build/emacs/melpa/sandbox/elpa/company-20181105.2312/company-autoloads.el

This minor annoyance becomes more problematic when updating a large number of packages; here's how my recentf list looks after doing an update and browsing a few files:

  [6] /home/clement/.emacs.d/.cask/27.0/elpa/adaptive-wrap-0.7/adaptive-wrap-autoloads.el
  [7] /home/clement/.emacs.d/.cask/27.0/elpa/ag-20180225.1040/ag-autoloads.el
  [8] /home/clement/.emacs.d/.cask/27.0/elpa/aggressive-indent-20181018.236/aggressive-indent-autoloads.el
  [9] /home/clement/.emacs.d/.cask/27.0/elpa/apache-mode-20180724.351/apache-mode-autoloads.el
  [0] /home/clement/.emacs.d/.cask/27.0/elpa/apiwrap-20180602.2231/apiwrap-autoloads.el
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  /home/clement/.emacs.d/.cask/27.0/elpa/buttercup-20181123.927/buttercup-autoloads.el
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I presume the fix would be to make sure that autoload-find-generated-file does not call find-file-hook?

Cheers,
Clément.

Message #8 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50;
 Autoload generation during package installation pollutes recent-files
 list
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:50:18 +0200

> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 14:31:38 -0500
> 
> I presume the fix would be to make sure that autoload-find-generated-file does not call find-file-hook?

That'd be too drastic, IMO.

Why can't you use the existing facilities in recentf to filter out
unwanted files from the list of recent files?

Message #11 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50; Autoload generation during package
 installation pollutes recent-files list
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:01:17 -0500

On 01/12/2018 14.50, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 14:31:38 -0500
>>
>> I presume the fix would be to make sure that autoload-find-generated-file does not call find-file-hook?
> 
> That'd be too drastic, IMO.
> 
> Why can't you use the existing facilities in recentf to filter out
> unwanted files from the list of recent files?

Is that possible?  As far as I can tell recentf only filters by file name.  That doesn't seem to be enough, since we do want to record some autoload files (those visited by users, but not those opened automatically by autoload.el).

Clément.

Message #14 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50; Autoload generation during package
 installation pollutes recent-files list
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 22:19:01 +0200

> Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:01:17 -0500
> 
> > Why can't you use the existing facilities in recentf to filter out
> > unwanted files from the list of recent files?
> 
> Is that possible?  As far as I can tell recentf only filters by file name.  That doesn't seem to be enough, since we do want to record some autoload files (those visited by users, but not those opened automatically by autoload.el).

You could let-bind recentf-exclude while installing packages, couldn't
you?

Message #17 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50; Autoload generation during package
 installation pollutes recent-files list
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 18:04:42 -0500

On 01/12/2018 15.19, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:01:17 -0500
>>
>>> Why can't you use the existing facilities in recentf to filter out
>>> unwanted files from the list of recent files?
>>
>> Is that possible?  As far as I can tell recentf only filters by file name.  That doesn't seem to be enough, since we do want to record some autoload files (those visited by users, but not those opened automatically by autoload.el).
> 
> You could let-bind recentf-exclude while installing packages, couldn't
> you?

Indeed. Although wouldn't we want to let-bind it in autoload-find-generated-file, rather?
And, in that case, isn't it odd to have recentf-related code in autoload.el?

Clément.

Message #20 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50;
 Autoload generation during package installation pollutes recent-files
 list
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 20:40:28 -0500

IMO this is a bug just like #17155 was.

Message #23 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50;
 Autoload generation during package installation pollutes recent-files
 list
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 09:17:08 +0200

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>,
>   33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 20:40:28 -0500
> 
> IMO this is a bug just like #17155 was.

But I hope the solution could be more solid.  Like, for example, have
recentf remember only files visited interactively, at least as an
option, if not by default.

However, as I use neither recentf nor package updates, I don't think
my opinions matter too much.

Message #26 received at 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 33563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#33563: 27.0.50; Autoload generation during package
 installation pollutes recent-files list
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:41:26 +0100

Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I presume the fix would be to make sure that
> autoload-find-generated-file does not call find-file-hook?

This was apparently fixed in 64ba14f3661f1 (for a different bug in this
area), so I'm closing this bug report.  If this is still an issue,
please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen.

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