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Full text available.Received: (at 33577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2018 20:39:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 13 15:39:59 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gXXm3-0001A8-5O for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:39:59 -0500 Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com ([209.85.215.182]:38422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <assafgordon@HIDDEN>) id 1gXXm0-00019e-GR; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:39:56 -0500 Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id g189so1582855pgc.5; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:39:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JEq2RnrsVKEBP+maw0luLBwbbKVhAtR+AXonbxVVNnc=; b=VhsK/yVImxzUKe5AIBNMFYF0FJhRWg3cTUR1jRTxN+mfsWu/+6BhbacFay8hNGVnQl dTtR1RXPKepYek96mF1rUkv/IBWhaBxW/arcvBsIa1uVXlw/IWDYjLMbCusjsR1kn+N1 5WPHgZI+E6QxXvyQ5AggTxaI1sOFRnf9o9SibJW6OdYrz43mPKzEnsJIqP/N4hkACJt7 3MV77MBaFLwoiY3FFYFU+4TviOSQpaN+DL458xgTokblz9SSmh+j4lhZhQ9xjQa8etpV 3bMlRBYd5rETQe67ixwdX5pJb+btlpmuk8v0VWELNPmV8EM+w2DhYsIKrzE+P88NWXJv 8zsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JEq2RnrsVKEBP+maw0luLBwbbKVhAtR+AXonbxVVNnc=; b=NVR1n+nNv664yEvDpKEOZmYQ5wPy1cWhmq/8zrtsvZHczcpxDIJSzObgo7xlJ/sqzE n5fFPQg0H3Gsr0wi0pzonm3SwapsX5muNorqxJ/qllhEvjGoiAhqULaurixLny7b3SKy 8OLLoYSU6VNWf5KrKIckrWj1zGqr/+IMfB6D5oY4lYQXBMOeZU1p6ciNCEXITo6BNbPK dx+6PgxskJ7xuz3h43YGRpoO2p5V8Bb/zzsuYIbtYABK5OTpstk4X6dYnrLCXimCDCdO s5Db5h4CMswTXPhILUQeeJ/1UTEvmEo1vxYJDQYuir7NF2VmgrHLtFu6u+LHX0bM8uz2 ziVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbtkoH4O/eZROdcI1rFzlGxRhfDz/jxYG/82q4qkqPw3cxV79ho cjYOyIQxrnEUJza7z+ourLQg35yyxnM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U+2JaU1vY2eVTFj7ee2JrfD7wQGkDY7qtgkDl9C3vo3haaHJ2QtONqBWnGfC3ZimrcG8TOXA== X-Received: by 2002:a62:2a4b:: with SMTP id q72mr251813pfq.61.1544733589898; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomato.housegordon.com (moose.housegordon.com. [184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r6sm4048099pgk.91.2018.12.13.12.39.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:39:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#33577: ls lacks null terminator option To: =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= <jidanni@HIDDEN>, Bernhard Voelker <mail@HIDDEN> References: <87efb0td2l.fsf@HIDDEN> <20181203121251120264709@HIDDEN> <877egpkp36.fsf@HIDDEN> <a8b140f8-4c5a-fd6a-db4f-79f7ffd6ded0@HIDDEN> <87mupkjj8i.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Assaf Gordon <assafgordon@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <f1e2df12-ec5c-7461-c612-8c13b98de360@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 13:39:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87mupkjj8i.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33577 Cc: 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 33577 notabug severity 33577 wishlist retitle 33577 doc: mention find/stat in ls documentation stop Hello, On 2018-12-05 4:39 a.m., 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > Fine. Put a message on top of (info "(coreutils) ls invocation") > saying that your pipes are better. Given the suggested solution from Bob and Bernhard, I'm marking this as a wishlish (todo) item to improve ls's documentation. regards, - assaf
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 08:06:41 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: no-spam@HIDDEN Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) The output from stat(1) can be controlled, and is therefore easier to parse than ls's human-friendly output, IMO. 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bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
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bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 33577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2018 10:25:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 05 05:25:47 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gUUNH-0000Y6-Cf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:25:47 -0500 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.133]:53641) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <mail@HIDDEN>) id 1gUUNF-0000Xu-SN for 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:25:46 -0500 Received: from [10.0.2.15] ([62.153.148.194]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mnq4Q-1hIO3D1OI6-00pJir; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 11:25:33 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#33577: ls lacks null terminator option To: =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= <jidanni@HIDDEN>, Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> References: <87efb0td2l.fsf@HIDDEN> <20181203121251120264709@HIDDEN> <877egpkp36.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Bernhard Voelker <mail@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <a8b140f8-4c5a-fd6a-db4f-79f7ffd6ded0@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 11:25:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <877egpkp36.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE-1901 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QHlmt4LDnoG8OT43xzjZm7//sObWNxKCGFmnwZtfzD9ybalpQIR gvjFHnBh0LvOrO3WQaX0Jdj+t0fVFmk79jATj7w6VXEKxaVP1FHjVviMA5YAEk8O5Ldd6oH hZWSGjjYy2JDllLrWz/LgtMCTKRAlckUGERGE8X6rTcaX8c3DrslFoLq43+UO9OJtFHvWZS mVUGhRsadtESgQg8zpgpw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:FOkUYFE1zoI=:+dbM/nVXQYqPrYmPqkxiD6 UnXuxiUicKF8fIJUrwMLv1BvVlPqGhdrIGgcUixzRswUqEQzF1YJUejcmmCW0NVix32OcUasH iI/1byVHwKSnhU0D3MKXdir5rNzcUW3SQPEm7RBHmh4r3poo7GaJNGqWW8mjOom4KmQ4ikYMS Qvvr7HTk5JrLDfhIzoaZ1MjkEk/lULGG/QKuu/OPmSp1NHITtT/7YpWPze+EVtEvgDrMrHZNz y206km+e04qkn7e+VDSuHDvwl862FW55dv24V1x0z0UKFk6aKT8vFga1IXQZLTvuSxwlmmZ3D h0hnxd/JCnrpoeFYRR7ph5mpwIrFWs/L9u7Jnv/Y9aessMR4DJJJuvWnNzZ0DqiEVtUyHkBSh T3rDDPHmDQcvL/7DEhPh1V+scX/AREQTo7lvNqkUXuAHDJonODiA8uuC1Ph13jP4yjqwB0W8J syoaZb+K5OpbOAOaI7MIJKi8xeeBpagQAUgKKZFRoKOcxbtssP1ZBYejArVoG+M3sQiUwwVaR 7DVpN84SOTD9wyt1JTENwQcx9SrKJ/V7HD0FgIa9iWFQkAEi1bBfPVApuznAh3iyfn6DEGQmR T8E1Krr7SOCGY9lFKq0es2EQTogrq6re6Iz6sw2uoyx70oSwFXsepLOjeY+BeSfvrj3c5v2dw pOW16tmPJGkYlwsU5rvcG8OVS27yhfhTngItHXPrdMpmM9pmhEo4Z3e9qe6T6qQ3dZ/k2pkGX hv04Ab/5WkS4ElviNGaX1I4h7OXjfJewFH63Se8DpNqX7Orlooq0n3FuNKGxtuvAxT3kV2eGE N2ToiZF X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33577 Cc: 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 12/4/18 9:35 PM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > Bob, I remember from my K&R Unix book that ls can be used in scripts. > In fact that is why > $ ls > acts different than > $ ls | cat > > Plus there are lots of things ls can do that find cannot. > > For instance sorting. You didn't mention sorting in your original post, but actually that's a typical post-action which can be glued together the UNIX way via pipes, using the decorate-process-undecorate pattern: $ find -printf '%T@:%p\0' | sort -znr | cut -zd: -f2- | $PRG with e.g. PRG='head -zn1' to get the newest file. And yes, if you really want to cater for arbitrary file names with blanks, newlines, and control character - short: everything apart from '/' and '\0', or more malicious file names e.g. starting with '-' or '--' to fool scripts, then it is quite complex by nature to get it right: think about what you have to do in the consuming $PRG to perform the processing safely. > Are you saying you want to enhance find(1) to sort its output? No, because that what 'sort' is for. Have a nice day, Berny
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
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bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 33577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2018 21:12:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 04 16:12:09 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32806 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gUHzF-0003tN-Ll for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2018 16:12:09 -0500 Received: from insect.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.93]:48370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jidanni@HIDDEN>) id 1gUHzD-0003tC-Up for 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2018 16:12:08 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717B33E3768; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 21:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a15.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.36.160]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2B6063E27C9; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 21:12:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a15.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Tue, 04 Dec 2018 21:12:06 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Army-Tangy: 23f12e022c6b8049_1543957926284_1689875436 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1543957926284:55902642 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1543957926283 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a15.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a15.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E6B8039C; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 13:12:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=rzttg51d60kOw6dEFdjg5CCQKvU=; b=puKXO3o2vl4Am iYCvN9expeo2DcxVIyxigFvngV9jXMWuNWJ/08gX9KgfBwY40xWBpUtDSv+O3uDo foII0f7l4TtVMEtITiX9ZUIKkSkW8RjIkOl0gX8NkBRw3AoCHMYsonusmMjbnFlD mwARDWmjcZn4UueJvDcWY7VMhns4/U= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-8-1.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.8.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@HIDDEN) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a15.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A6FF80396; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 13:12:04 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a15 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#33577: ls lacks null terminator option References: <87efb0td2l.fsf@HIDDEN> <20181203121251120264709@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:12:01 +0800 Message-ID: <874lbtkndq.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedrudeffedgudegiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufhffffkgggtsehttdertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddugedrgedurdekrddunecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddugedrgedurdekrddupdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeefheejjeesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedu X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33577 Cc: 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Don't let that ls colors stuff fool you. It originally didn't have that.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
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bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
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bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#33577; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 33577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2018 19:55:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 03 14:55:38 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gTuJe-0006Bq-De for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 14:55:38 -0500 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:58297) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bob@HIDDEN>) id 1gTuJc-0006BZ-RQ for 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 14:55:37 -0500 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A04EC7; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:55:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C114C217DF; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:55:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A634B2DC83; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:55:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:55:30 -0700 From: Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> To: 33577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#33577: ls lacks null terminator option Message-ID: <20181203121251120264709@HIDDEN> References: <87efb0td2l.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87efb0td2l.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33577 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > For files with blanks in their names, > one shouldn't need this workaround: > $ ls -t | tr \\n \\0 | xargs -0 more > /tmp/z.txt > Please add a --print0 option. like find(1) has. I think that adding a --print0 option to 'ls' is not wise because it would suggest to people seeing it that 'ls' should be used in scripts. But 'ls' is a command designed for human interaction not for use in scripts. Using 'find' for scripted use is the desired utility. Such a patch has previously been submitted. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2014-02/msg00005.html Bob
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Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:59:52 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a11 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: bug-coreutils@HIDDEN Subject: ls lacks null terminator option Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 18:53:06 +0800 Message-ID: <87efb0td2l.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedruddvkedguddtkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduuddurddvgeeirdeliedrhedunecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepudduuddrvdegiedrleeirdehuddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopegsuhhgqdgtohhrvghuthhilhhssehgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) For files with blanks in their names, one shouldn't need this workaround: $ ls -t | tr \\n \\0 | xargs -0 more > /tmp/z.txt Please add a --print0 option. like find(1) has. ls (GNU coreutils) 8.30
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