GNU bug report logs - #34184
Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

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Package: guix; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: swedebugia <swedebugia@HIDDEN>; dated Wed, 23 Jan 2019 21:23:02 UTC; Maintainer for guix is bug-guix@HIDDEN.

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From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:27:26PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> Maybe we should
>=20
> 1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
> 2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
> =E2=80=9Cinstalling bootloader=E2=80=9D

Yes, absolutely. We just had another person ask about this on IRC.

It may not be the most important thing to fix overall, but it's one of
the first things people see when starting with a Guix system so it is
important.

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bug#34184; Package guix. Full text available.
Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> writes:

[...]

>> Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly
>> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode. "No error
>> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing=E2=80=A6
>
> Maybe we should
>
> 1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
> 2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
> =E2=80=9Cinstalling bootloader=E2=80=9D
>
> What do you think?

Good idea, that would avoid confusions; I=E2=80=99m fine one way or the oth=
er.

It may still be useful, though, to grab the raw messages from these
tools in case something goes wrong (or even if it succeeds but
=E2=80=98grub-install=E2=80=99 made an EFI install when you were expecting =
a BIOS
install, say.)

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.




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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:12:58PM +0100, swedebugia wrote:
> "Installing for i386-pc platform.
> Installation finished. No error reported."

This message comes from GRUB. Not having read the GRUB docs closely, I
assume it refers to the bootloader style ("PC" vs EFI) rather than the
CPU architecture.

I agree it's a bit misleading, especially to non-technical users. I
wonder how it could be improved, however?

In the long run, I think we should offer a graphical interface to `guix
system`, `guix package`, etc, and in that case non-technical users would
never see this message.

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Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly=2Enet> skrev: (23 januari 2019 23:27:26 CET)
>
>Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu> writes:
>
>> Le 23 janvier 2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia
><swedebugia@riseup=2Enet> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>"Installing for i386-pc platform=2E
>>>Installation finished=2E No error reported=2E"
>>>
>>>After reboot:
>>>  $ uname -a
>>>Linux komputilo 4=2E20=2E3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>
>>>The i386 is technically incorrect according to
>>>https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Intel_80386 and
>>>https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/X86-64
>>>
>>>I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished=2E No
>>>error reported=2E"
>>
>> Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly
>> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode=2E "No error
>> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing=E2=80=A6
>
>Maybe we should
>
>1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
>2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
>=E2=80=9Cinstalling bootloader=E2=80=9D
>
>What do you think?
>
>--
>Ricardo

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Ricardo Wurmus &lt;reka=
do@elephly=2Enet&gt; skrev: (23 januari 2019 23:27:26 CET)<blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px sol=
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<pre class=3D"k9mail"><br>Julien Lepiller &lt;julien@lepiller=2Eeu&gt; wri=
tes:<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex =
0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Le 23 janvier =
2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia &lt;swedebugia@riseup=2Enet&gt; a =C3=
=A9crit :<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex=
 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">"Installing f=
or i386-pc platform=2E<br>Installation finished=2E No error reported=2E"<br=
><br>After reboot:<br>  $ uname -a<br>Linux komputilo 4=2E20=2E3-gnu #1 SMP=
 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux<br><br>The i386 is technically incorrect according to<b=
r><a href=3D"https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Intel_80386">https://en=2Ewi=
kipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Intel_80386</a> and<br><a href=3D"https://en=2Ewikipedia=
=2Eorg/wiki/X86-64">https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/X86-64</a><br><br>I t=
hink we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished=2E No<br>error=
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nstall and is perfectly<br> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bio=
s) mode=2E "No error<br> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing=
=E2=80=A6<br></blockquote><br>Maybe we should<br><br>1) prefix messages fro=
m other tools with the name of the tool, and<br>2) hide these tool messages=
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der=E2=80=9D<br><br>What do you think?<br><br>--<br>Ricardo<br><br></pre></=
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Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> writes:

> Le 23 janvier 2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia <swedebugia@HIDDEN>=
 a =C3=A9crit :
>>"Installing for i386-pc platform.
>>Installation finished. No error reported."
>>
>>After reboot:
>>  $ uname -a
>>Linux komputilo 4.20.3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>>The i386 is technically incorrect according to
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386 and
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
>>
>>I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished. No
>>error reported."
>
> Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly
> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode. "No error
> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing=E2=80=A6

Maybe we should

1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
=E2=80=9Cinstalling bootloader=E2=80=9D

What do you think?

--
Ricardo





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Le 23 janvier 2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup=2Enet>=
 a =C3=A9crit :
>"Installing for i386-pc platform=2E
>Installation finished=2E No error reported=2E"
>
>After reboot:
>  $ uname -a
>Linux komputilo 4=2E20=2E3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
>The i386 is technically incorrect according to=20
>https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/Intel_80386 and=20
>https://en=2Ewikipedia=2Eorg/wiki/X86-64
>
>I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished=2E No=20
>error reported=2E"

Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly correct: i=
t means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode=2E "No error reported" is also=
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Subject: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.
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"Installing for i386-pc platform.
Installation finished. No error reported."

After reboot:
  $ uname -a
Linux komputilo 4.20.3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux

The i386 is technically incorrect according to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386 and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished. No 
error reported."

-- 
Cheers
Swedebugia




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