GNU bug report logs - #34312
scroll-error-top-bottom and scroll-preserve-screen-position do not work correctly together

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From: Jarosław Rzeszótko <jrzeszotko <at> gmail.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: scroll-error-top-bottom and scroll-preserve-screen-position do not
 work correctly together
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:54:58 +0100

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I run Emacs 26.1 with a config of just:

(setq scroll-error-top-bottom t)
(setq scroll-preserve-screen-position 'always)

I open a long file, hit PageDown, then the Down key a few times. Point is
at some position X now. I come back to the beginning of buffer by hitting
PageUp twice. The point is now in the top left corner of the window. Here
comes the bug: I hit PageDown and point is moved to position X, rather than
to the top left corner of the portion of the buffer that was just made
visible by the scrolling. The scrolling itself seems to work OK.

Cheers,
Jarosław Rzeszótko

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Message #8 received at 34312 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Jarosław Rzeszótko <jrzeszotko <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 34312 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34312: scroll-error-top-bottom and
 scroll-preserve-screen-position do not work correctly together
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 18:21:39 +0200

> From: Jarosław Rzeszótko
> 	<jrzeszotko <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:54:58 +0100
> 
> (setq scroll-error-top-bottom t)
> (setq scroll-preserve-screen-position 'always)
> 
> I open a long file, hit PageDown, then the Down key a few times. Point is at some position X now. I come back
> to the beginning of buffer by hitting PageUp twice. The point is now in the top left corner of the window. Here
> comes the bug: I hit PageDown and point is moved to position X, rather than to the top left corner of the
> portion of the buffer that was just made visible by the scrolling.

Maybe I'm missing something, but this is the behavior I'd expect, I
wouldn't consider it a bug.  Emacs moved point to the top of the
buffer only because there was an error.  Once the error is gone, it
goes back to the remembered screen position.

Does anyone else think this is a bug?

Thanks.

Message #11 received at 34312 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jarosław Rzeszótko <jrzeszotko <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 34312 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34312: scroll-error-top-bottom and
 scroll-preserve-screen-position do not work correctly together
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 19:59:08 +0100

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On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:21 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Jarosław Rzeszótko
> >       <jrzeszotko <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:54:58 +0100
> >
> > (setq scroll-error-top-bottom t)
> > (setq scroll-preserve-screen-position 'always)
> >
> > I open a long file, hit PageDown, then the Down key a few times. Point
> is at some position X now. I come back
> > to the beginning of buffer by hitting PageUp twice. The point is now in
> the top left corner of the window. Here
> > comes the bug: I hit PageDown and point is moved to position X, rather
> than to the top left corner of the
> > portion of the buffer that was just made visible by the scrolling.
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but this is the behavior I'd expect, I
> wouldn't consider it a bug.  Emacs moved point to the top of the
> buffer only because there was an error.  Once the error is gone, it
> goes back to the remembered screen position.
>
> Does anyone else think this is a bug?
>
> Thanks.
>

I would expect PageDown behavior to be dependent only on what portion of
the buffer is visible on the screen and on where the point is, here it
appears it is additionally dependent on the history of how the point got
where it is, or in effect on some internal state of the Emacs C runtime,
that is probably not even in any way accessible to the user.

Also, the documentation for scroll-error-top-bottom says it causes the
point to be moved *instead of* signaling an error, so it is hard to
understand why any screen position should be remembered or why the error
should be then "gone" when you move the point again.

Cheers,
Jarosław Rzeszótko

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Message #14 received at 34312 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 34312 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Jarosław Rzeszótko <jrzeszotko <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#34312: scroll-error-top-bottom and
 scroll-preserve-screen-position do not work correctly together
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 15:51:31 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Maybe I'm missing something, but this is the behavior I'd expect, I
> wouldn't consider it a bug.  Emacs moved point to the top of the
> buffer only because there was an error.  Once the error is gone, it
> goes back to the remembered screen position.
>
> Does anyone else think this is a bug?

Trying this out a bit, I think this seems like pretty natural behaviour,
so I agree with Eli that this isn't a bug, and I'm closing this bug
report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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