GNU bug report logs - #34490
console the user that his -n in sort --debug -n was seen

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Package: coreutils;

Reported by: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:15:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com>

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From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: bug-coreutils <at> gnu.org
Subject: console the user that his -n in sort --debug -n was seen
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 22:21:37 +0800
Can you please have assure the user in that message it makes
that it has indeed seen his -n/--numeric-sort.

$ sort --debug
sort: using simple byte comparison
$ sort --debug --numeric-sort
sort: using simple byte comparison
                   ^^^^ unchanged. User gets nervous.

sort (GNU coreutils) 8.30. Sorry we discussed this before but kinda hard to find...




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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>,
 34490 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34490: console the user that his -n in sort --debug -n was
 seen
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 20:53:48 -0800
On 15/02/19 06:21, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Can you please have assure the user in that message it makes
> that it has indeed seen his -n/--numeric-sort.
> 
> $ sort --debug
> sort: using simple byte comparison
> $ sort --debug --numeric-sort
> sort: using simple byte comparison
>                    ^^^^ unchanged. User gets nervous.
> 
> sort (GNU coreutils) 8.30. Sorry we discussed this before but kinda hard to find...

Fair point. I'm thinking of this extra qualification:

  sort: text ordering performed using ‘en_IE.UTF-8’ sorting rules
  sort: text ordering performed using simple byte comparison

cheers,
Pádraig




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From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com>
Cc: 34490 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34490: console the user that his -n in sort --debug -n was
 seen
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:28:24 +0800
>>>>> "PB" == Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> writes:
PB> Fair point. I'm thinking of this extra qualification:

PB>   sort: text ordering performed using ‘en_IE.UTF-8’ sorting rules
Maybe say                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^'LC_CTYPE=en_IE.UTF-8' sorting rules

PB>   sort: text ordering performed using simple byte comparison

sort: text ordering performed using simple byte (LC_CTYPE=C) comparison
or something like that.




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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 34490-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34490: console the user that his -n in sort --debug -n was
 seen
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 19:11:51 -0800
On 16/02/19 23:28, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote:
>>>>>> "PB" == Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> writes:
> PB> Fair point. I'm thinking of this extra qualification:
> 
> PB>   sort: text ordering performed using ‘en_IE.UTF-8’ sorting rules
> Maybe say                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^'LC_CTYPE=en_IE.UTF-8' sorting rules
> 
> PB>   sort: text ordering performed using simple byte comparison
> 
> sort: text ordering performed using simple byte (LC_CTYPE=C) comparison
> or something like that.

That's probably more confusing to the user,
especially as one doesn't generally explicitly set LC_CTYPE.
I'll go with my clarification.

thanks,
Pádraig





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