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From: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com To: bug-coreutils <at> gnu.org Subject: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:12:15 -0600
$ wc --version wc (GNU coreutils) 8.29 Packaged by Gentoo (8.29-r1 (p1.0)) The man page for wc states: "A word is a... sequence of characters delimited by white space." But its concept of white space only seems to include ASCII white space. U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE, for instance, is not recognized. If your terminal displays UTF-8 encoding: printf 'how are\xC2\xA0you\n' or if your terminal displays ISO 8859-1 encoding: printf 'how are\xA0you\n' the visible output of this printf is "how are you". In either case, wc does not recognize the second space as white space, resulting in an incorrect word count: $ printf 'how are\xC2\xA0you\n' | LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 wc -w 2 $ printf 'how are\xA0you\n' | LC_ALL=en_US.iso88591 wc -w 2
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From: Bob Proulx <bob <at> proulx.com> To: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com Cc: 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:34:04 -0700
vampyrebat <at> gmail.com wrote: > The man page for wc states: "A word is a... sequence of characters delimited by white space." > > But its concept of white space only seems to include ASCII white > space. U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE, for instance, is not recognized. Indeed this is because wc and other coreutils programs, and other programs, use the libc locale definition. $ printf '\xC2\xA0\n' | env LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 od -tx1 -c 0000000 c2 a0 0a 302 240 \n 0000003 printf '\xC2\xA0\n' | env LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 grep '[[:space:]]' | wc -l 0 $ printf '\xC2\xA0 \n' | env LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 grep '[[:space:]]' | wc -l 1 This shows that grep does not recognize \xC2\xA0 as a character in the class of space characters either. $ printf '\xC2\xA0\n' | env LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 tr '[[:space:]]' x | od -tx1 -c 0000000 c2 a0 78 302 240 x 0000003 And while a space character matches and is translated the other is not. Since character classes are defined as part of the locale table there isn't really anything we can do about it on the coreutils wc side of things. It would need to be redefined upstream there. Bob
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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> To: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org> Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 21:22:51 -0800
On 18/02/19 00:12, vampyrebat <at> gmail.com wrote: > $ wc --version > wc (GNU coreutils) 8.29 > Packaged by Gentoo (8.29-r1 (p1.0)) > > The man page for wc states: "A word is a... sequence of characters delimited by white space." > > But its concept of white space only seems to include ASCII white space. U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE, for instance, is not recognized. > > If your terminal displays UTF-8 encoding: > > printf 'how are\xC2\xA0you\n' > > or if your terminal displays ISO 8859-1 encoding: > > printf 'how are\xA0you\n' > > the visible output of this printf is "how are you". In either case, wc does not recognize the second space as white space, resulting in an incorrect word count: > > $ printf 'how are\xC2\xA0you\n' | LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 wc -w > 2 > $ printf 'how are\xA0you\n' | LC_ALL=en_US.iso88591 wc -w > 2 wc does support multi-byte locales well and we use iswspace() to test whether it's a separator or not. Though on glibc, NBSP is not considered a space. I wrote a little prog to output what is considered a space on glibc locales: 0009 HORIZONTAL TAB 000A NEW LINE (not blank) 000B VERTICAL TAB (not blank) 000C FORM FEED (not blank) 000D CARRIAGE RETURN (not blank) 0020 SPACE 1680 OGHAM SPACE MARK 2000 EN QUAD 2001 EM QUAD 2002 EN SPACE 2003 EM SPACE 2004 THREE-PER-EM SPACE 2005 FOUR-PER-EM SPACE 2006 SIX-PER-EM SPACE 2008 PUNCTUATION SPACE 2009 THIN SPACE 200A HAIR SPACE 2028 LINE SEPARATOR (not blank) 2029 PARAGRAPH SEPARATOR (not blank) 205F MEDIUM MATHEMATICAL SPACE 3000 IDEOGRAPHIC SPACE In the non breaking space class we have: 00A0 NON BREAKING SPACE 2007 FIGURE SPACE 202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE 2060 WORD JOINER Maybe we should consider these as word separators? I pasted `printf '=\u00A0=\u2007=\u202F=\u2060=\n'` into libreoffice writer and it treated all but the last as a word separator in its word count tool. There is some discussion of POSIX and unicode classes at: http://unicode.org/L2/L2003/03139-posix-classes.htm I guess POSIX is defining lower level functionality and has to be compat with all uses of iswspace() which might be used for line reformatting etc. but wc(1) being higher level, perhaps should consider the non breaking variants as word separators? The following change would do that: diff --git a/src/wc.c b/src/wc.c index 179abbe..ca990b4 100644 --- a/src/wc.c +++ b/src/wc.c @@ -147,6 +147,13 @@ the following order: newline, word, character, byte, maximum line length.\n\ exit (status); } +static int _GL_ATTRIBUTE_PURE +iswnbspace (wint_t wc) +{ + return wc == L'\u00A0' || wc == L'\u2007' \ + || wc == L'\u202F' || wc == L'\u2060'; +} + /* FILE is the name of the file (or NULL for standard input) associated with the specified counters. */ static void @@ -455,7 +462,7 @@ wc (int fd, char const *file_x, struct fstatus *fstatus, off_t current_pos) if (width > 0) linepos += width; } - if (iswspace (wide_char)) + if (iswspace (wide_char) || iswnbspace (wide_char)) goto mb_word_separator; in_word = true; } Note general word boundary handling is complicated: https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/#Word_Boundaries Consider this number with figure space: $ printf "1\u2007234,56\n" 1 234,56 That would be considered as one word rather than two. For more sophisticated contextual processing we would need to use some of the word break functionality from libunistring. cheers, Pádraig
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From: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org> To: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigbrady.com>, bug-libunistring <at> gnu.org Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 14:58:02 +0100
[Ccing bug-libunistring, because this is about Unicode handling in GNU. The original thread is in <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=34524>.] > > The man page for wc states: "A word is a... sequence of characters delimited by white space." > > > > But its concept of white space only seems to include ASCII white space. U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE, for instance, is not recognized. > > > > If your terminal displays UTF-8 encoding: > > > > printf 'how are\xC2\xA0you\n' > > > > or if your terminal displays ISO 8859-1 encoding: > > > > printf 'how are\xA0you\n' > > > > the visible output of this printf is "how are you". In either case, wc does not recognize the second space as white space, resulting in an incorrect word count: It is a complicated issue. I) Relax. Don't be religious about it. II) POSIX char classes III) User expectations IV) The Unicode standard V) Implementation issues I) Relax. Don't be religious about it. ====================================== Unicode is an effort to make programs work *reasonably well* with as many kinds of text as possible. For example, Unicode 23.2 <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch23.pdf> page 859 says: "The effect of layout controls is specific to particular text processes. As much as possible, layout controls are transparent to those text processes for which they were not intended." Or, Unicode TR 29 <https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-33.html> says: "The precise determination of text elements may vary according to orthographic conventions for a given script or language. The goal of matching user perceptions cannot always be met exactly because the text alone does not always contain enough information to unambiguously decide boundaries. For example, the period (U+002E FULL STOP) is used ambiguously, sometimes for end-of-sentence purposes, sometimes for abbreviations, and sometimes for numbers. In most cases, however, programmatic text boundaries can match user perceptions quite closely, although sometimes the best that can be done is not to surprise the user." Or, there is criticism: <http://jkorpela.fi/unicode/linebr.html> Therefore, this is a reminder that sometimes no optimal solution can be found. Relax. II) POSIX char classes ====================== > There is some discussion of POSIX and unicode classes at: > http://unicode.org/L2/L2003/03139-posix-classes.htm > > I guess POSIX is defining lower level functionality > and has to be compat with all uses of iswspace() > which might be used for line reformatting etc. > but wc(1) being higher level, perhaps should consider > the non breaking variants as word separators? Exactly, that's the right approach. The POSIX char classes are defined in glibc/localedata/unicode-gen/unicode_utils.py; in this case what matters is the is_space function, and it has a comment: # Don’t make U+00A0 a space. Non-breaking space means that all programs # should treat it like a punctuation character, not like a space. If U+00A0 was made a space, most programs would treat NO-BREAK SPACE like SPACE, which is against the purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE. So, in general, users should be aware that NO-BREAK SPACE is not a space. (And likewise, the SOFT HYPHEN is not to be treated like HYPHEN, because that would be against the purpose of the SOFT HYPHEN.) But 'wc' is a specific program, with a specific purpose, and that might warrant exceptions. > I pasted `printf '=\u00A0=\u2007=\u202F=\u2060=\n'` > into libreoffice writer and it treated all but the last > as a word separator in its word count tool. This is a good approach, because text processors usually deal with Unicode in more detail and with more thought than we usually do in the command-line / monospaced world. III) User expectations ====================== On one hand, user expectation that a no-break space separates words is justified: In "Dr.\u00A0Pinkwart" a user sees two words. On the other hand, the opposite user expectation is justified as well. The English sentence "Look: here he is" is translated into French as "Regarde\u00A0: le voilà". (It is customary to put a space before colon, question mark, and exclamation mark in French. And to avoid line breaking at these points, it must be a NO-BREAK space.) When a translator counts the words they have translated, "Regarde : le voilà" should count as 3 words, not 4 words. OTOH, it could be argued that in this case, the problem is that a word (":") consisting only of punctuation characters should not be counted as a word. But again: relax. Translators are being paid according to word counts, but a word count that is 1 too high or 1 too low is not dramatic. IV) The Unicode standard ======================== On one hand, the Unicode standard makes it clear in several places that 1) NO-BREAK SPACE prohibits line breaking, 2) line breaking and words are related. See for example, the Unicode standard section 5.12 <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch05.pdf> page 219: "Line breaking algorithms generally use state machines for determining word breaks." Or the Unicode standard section 23.2 <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch23.pdf> page 859 "Word Joiner. U+2060 word joiner behaves like U+00A0 no-break space in that it indicates the absence of line breaks; ..." On the other hand, in the same section 23.2 it says "Line breaking and word breaking are distinct text processes. Although a candidate position for a line break in text often coincides with a candidate position for a word break, there are also many situations where candidate break positions of different types do not coincide." And in the Unicode TR 29 section 4 "Word boundaries" <https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-33.html#Word_Boundaries> it treats NO-BREAK SPACE as a word boundary by default - this can be verified through the program below - but also says that SPACE and NO-BREAK SPACE "may be tailored to be in MidNum, depending on the environment". Here's an example program, that uses GNU libunistring: ============================================================== #include <stdio.h> #include <uniwbrk.h> int main () { printf ("%d\n", uc_wordbreak_property (0x00A0)); { uint8_t string[] = "Regarde : le voilà"; char p[19]; u8_wordbreaks (string, 19, p); puts ((char *) string); for (int i = 0; i < 19; i++) if (p[i]) printf ("word break at position %d\n", i); } { uint8_t string[] = "Regarde\u00A0: le voilà"; char p[20]; u8_wordbreaks (string, 20, p); puts ((char *) string); for (int i = 0; i < 20; i++) if (p[i]) printf ("word break at position %d\n", i); } } ============================================================== and its output: 0 (means: WBP_OTHER) Regarde : le voilà word break at position 7 word break at position 8 word break at position 9 word break at position 10 word break at position 12 word break at position 13 Regarde : le voilà word break at position 7 word break at position 9 word break at position 10 word break at position 11 word break at position 13 word break at position 14 V) Implementation issues ======================== > The following change would do that: > > diff --git a/src/wc.c b/src/wc.c > index 179abbe..ca990b4 100644 > --- a/src/wc.c > +++ b/src/wc.c > @@ -147,6 +147,13 @@ the following order: newline, word, character, byte, maximum line length.\n\ > exit (status); > } > > +static int _GL_ATTRIBUTE_PURE > +iswnbspace (wint_t wc) > +{ > + return wc == L'\u00A0' || wc == L'\u2007' \ > + || wc == L'\u202F' || wc == L'\u2060'; > +} > + > /* FILE is the name of the file (or NULL for standard input) > associated with the specified counters. */ > static void > @@ -455,7 +462,7 @@ wc (int fd, char const *file_x, struct fstatus *fstatus, off_t current_pos) > if (width > 0) > linepos += width; > } > - if (iswspace (wide_char)) > + if (iswspace (wide_char) || iswnbspace (wide_char)) > goto mb_word_separator; > in_word = true; > } > > ... > For more sophisticated contextual processing we would need > to use some of the word break functionality from libunistring. I don't think you will be able to satisfactorily blend POSIX behaviour with Unicode behaviour without introducing a command-line option. On the POSIX side: POSIX says <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/wc.html> "The wc utility shall consider a word to be a non-zero-length string of characters delimited by white space." and <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap07.html> "space Define characters to be classified as white-space characters." So, when operates according to POSIX expectations, it MUST use iswspace (wide_char) not iswspace (wide_char) || iswnbspace (wide_char) On the Unicode side: It is reasonable to see two "words" in "Regardez\u00A0:", and the GNU libunistring library implement it like this. It is also reasonable to expect that 'wc' counts words in the Thai language, which does not use spaces to delimit words. GNU libunistring may implement this in the future as well. For this reason, I would find it best to introduce an option '--unicode' to 'wc', that would produce Unicode compliant results, at the cost of - not following POSIX to the letter, - being slower. Bruno
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From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> To: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org>, Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigbrady.com>, bug-libunistring <at> gnu.org Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 09:47:02 -0800
Bruno Haible wrote: > I would find it best to introduce an option '--unicode' > to 'wc', that would produce Unicode compliant results, at the cost of > - not following POSIX to the letter, It'd make sense to have an option. How about a more-general option --words, that would let the user define what a word is? This option's operand could use ERE syntax, or a shorthand beginning with '+' for common combinations. For example, the command: wc --words='[[:alnum:]]+' would say that a word consists of the longest contiguous sequence of alphanumeric characters. And wc --words='+unicode' would use the Unicode definition of word, whatever it is.
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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> To: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org>, bug-libunistring <at> gnu.org Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> CS.UCLA.EDU>, 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 17:07:18 -0800
On 24/02/19 05:58, Bruno Haible wrote: > [Ccing bug-libunistring, because this is about Unicode handling in GNU. The > original thread is in <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=34524>.] > >>> The man page for wc states: "A word is a... sequence of characters delimited by white space." >>> >>> But its concept of white space only seems to include ASCII white space. U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE, for instance, is not recognized. >>> >>> If your terminal displays UTF-8 encoding: >>> >>> printf 'how are\xC2\xA0you\n' >>> >>> or if your terminal displays ISO 8859-1 encoding: >>> >>> printf 'how are\xA0you\n' >>> >>> the visible output of this printf is "how are you". In either case, wc does not recognize the second space as white space, resulting in an incorrect word count: > > It is a complicated issue. > > I) Relax. Don't be religious about it. > II) POSIX char classes > III) User expectations > IV) The Unicode standard > V) Implementation issues > > > I) Relax. Don't be religious about it. > ====================================== > > Unicode is an effort to make programs work *reasonably well* with as many > kinds of text as possible. > > For example, Unicode 23.2 > <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch23.pdf> page 859 > says: > "The effect of layout controls is specific to particular text processes. > As much as possible, layout controls are transparent to those text processes > for which they were not intended." > > Or, Unicode TR 29 <https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-33.html> says: > "The precise determination of text elements may vary according to > orthographic conventions for a given script or language. The goal of > matching user perceptions cannot always be met exactly because the text > alone does not always contain enough information to unambiguously decide > boundaries. For example, the period (U+002E FULL STOP) is used ambiguously, > sometimes for end-of-sentence purposes, sometimes for abbreviations, and > sometimes for numbers. In most cases, however, programmatic text boundaries > can match user perceptions quite closely, although sometimes the best that > can be done is not to surprise the user." > > Or, there is criticism: <http://jkorpela.fi/unicode/linebr.html> > > Therefore, this is a reminder that sometimes no optimal solution can be found. > Relax. > > > II) POSIX char classes > ====================== > >> There is some discussion of POSIX and unicode classes at: >> http://unicode.org/L2/L2003/03139-posix-classes.htm >> >> I guess POSIX is defining lower level functionality >> and has to be compat with all uses of iswspace() >> which might be used for line reformatting etc. >> but wc(1) being higher level, perhaps should consider >> the non breaking variants as word separators? > > Exactly, that's the right approach. The POSIX char classes are defined in > glibc/localedata/unicode-gen/unicode_utils.py; in this case what matters is > the is_space function, and it has a comment: > # Don’t make U+00A0 a space. Non-breaking space means that all programs > # should treat it like a punctuation character, not like a space. > If U+00A0 was made a space, most programs would treat NO-BREAK SPACE like > SPACE, which is against the purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE. So, in general, > users should be aware that NO-BREAK SPACE is not a space. (And likewise, > the SOFT HYPHEN is not to be treated like HYPHEN, because that would be > against the purpose of the SOFT HYPHEN.) > > But 'wc' is a specific program, with a specific purpose, and that might > warrant exceptions. > >> I pasted `printf '=\u00A0=\u2007=\u202F=\u2060=\n'` >> into libreoffice writer and it treated all but the last >> as a word separator in its word count tool. > > This is a good approach, because text processors usually deal with Unicode > in more detail and with more thought than we usually do in the command-line > / monospaced world. > > > III) User expectations > ====================== > > On one hand, user expectation that a no-break space separates words is > justified: In "Dr.\u00A0Pinkwart" a user sees two words. > > On the other hand, the opposite user expectation is justified as well. > The English sentence "Look: here he is" is translated into French as > "Regarde\u00A0: le voilà". (It is customary to put a space before colon, > question mark, and exclamation mark in French. And to avoid line breaking > at these points, it must be a NO-BREAK space.) When a translator counts > the words they have translated, "Regarde : le voilà" should count as > 3 words, not 4 words. OTOH, it could be argued that in this case, the > problem is that a word (":") consisting only of punctuation characters > should not be counted as a word. > > But again: relax. Translators are being paid according to word counts, > but a word count that is 1 too high or 1 too low is not dramatic. > > > IV) The Unicode standard > ======================== > > On one hand, the Unicode standard makes it clear in several places that > 1) NO-BREAK SPACE prohibits line breaking, > 2) line breaking and words are related. > > See for example, the Unicode standard section 5.12 > <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch05.pdf> > page 219: > "Line breaking algorithms generally use state machines for determining > word breaks." > > Or the Unicode standard section 23.2 > <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch23.pdf> page 859 > "Word Joiner. U+2060 word joiner behaves like U+00A0 no-break space > in that it indicates the absence of line breaks; ..." > > On the other hand, in the same section 23.2 it says > "Line breaking and word breaking are distinct text processes. > Although a candidate position for a line break in text often coincides > with a candidate position for a word break, there are also many > situations where candidate break positions of different types do not > coincide." > > And in the Unicode TR 29 section 4 "Word boundaries" > <https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-33.html#Word_Boundaries> > it treats NO-BREAK SPACE as a word boundary by default - this can be > verified through the program below - but also says that SPACE and > NO-BREAK SPACE "may be tailored to be in MidNum, depending on the environment". > > Here's an example program, that uses GNU libunistring: > ============================================================== > #include <stdio.h> > #include <uniwbrk.h> > > int main () > { > printf ("%d\n", uc_wordbreak_property (0x00A0)); > { > uint8_t string[] = "Regarde : le voilà"; > char p[19]; > u8_wordbreaks (string, 19, p); > puts ((char *) string); > for (int i = 0; i < 19; i++) > if (p[i]) > printf ("word break at position %d\n", i); > } > { > uint8_t string[] = "Regarde\u00A0: le voilà"; > char p[20]; > u8_wordbreaks (string, 20, p); > puts ((char *) string); > for (int i = 0; i < 20; i++) > if (p[i]) > printf ("word break at position %d\n", i); > } > } > ============================================================== > and its output: > 0 (means: WBP_OTHER) > Regarde : le voilà > word break at position 7 > word break at position 8 > word break at position 9 > word break at position 10 > word break at position 12 > word break at position 13 > Regarde : le voilà > word break at position 7 > word break at position 9 > word break at position 10 > word break at position 11 > word break at position 13 > word break at position 14 > > > V) Implementation issues > ======================== > >> The following change would do that: >> >> diff --git a/src/wc.c b/src/wc.c >> index 179abbe..ca990b4 100644 >> --- a/src/wc.c >> +++ b/src/wc.c >> @@ -147,6 +147,13 @@ the following order: newline, word, character, byte, maximum line length.\n\ >> exit (status); >> } >> >> +static int _GL_ATTRIBUTE_PURE >> +iswnbspace (wint_t wc) >> +{ >> + return wc == L'\u00A0' || wc == L'\u2007' \ >> + || wc == L'\u202F' || wc == L'\u2060'; >> +} >> + >> /* FILE is the name of the file (or NULL for standard input) >> associated with the specified counters. */ >> static void >> @@ -455,7 +462,7 @@ wc (int fd, char const *file_x, struct fstatus *fstatus, off_t current_pos) >> if (width > 0) >> linepos += width; >> } >> - if (iswspace (wide_char)) >> + if (iswspace (wide_char) || iswnbspace (wide_char)) >> goto mb_word_separator; >> in_word = true; >> } >> >> ... >> For more sophisticated contextual processing we would need >> to use some of the word break functionality from libunistring. > > I don't think you will be able to satisfactorily blend POSIX behaviour > with Unicode behaviour without introducing a command-line option. > > On the POSIX side: POSIX says > <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/wc.html> > "The wc utility shall consider a word to be a non-zero-length string > of characters delimited by white space." > and > <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap07.html> > "space > Define characters to be classified as white-space characters." > So, when operates according to POSIX expectations, it MUST use > iswspace (wide_char) > not > iswspace (wide_char) || iswnbspace (wide_char) > > On the Unicode side: It is reasonable to see two "words" in > "Regardez\u00A0:", and the GNU libunistring library implement it like > this. It is also reasonable to expect that 'wc' counts words in the Thai > language, which does not use spaces to delimit words. GNU libunistring > may implement this in the future as well. > > For this reason, I would find it best to introduce an option '--unicode' > to 'wc', that would produce Unicode compliant results, at the cost of > - not following POSIX to the letter, > - being slower. Wow thanks for all that deep info. So non break space is generally considered a word delimiter, though there are complications you detail from unicode. In regard to options for enabling various behaviors for wc(1), I'm thinking we might keep the strict POSIX isspace() behavior with LC_CTYPE=C and/or POSIXLY_CORRECT=1, and use iswnbspace() by default, since that's the most common operation one would want, and is consistent with libreoffice for example. I'll adjust the patch along those lines. I like the --words=unicode idea to give us control over various more contextual behaviors in future. thank you! 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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> To: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org> Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> CS.UCLA.EDU>, 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 19:55:39 -0800
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On 24/02/19 17:07, Pádraig Brady wrote: > So non break space is generally considered a word delimiter, > though there are complications you detail from unicode. > > In regard to options for enabling various behaviors for wc(1), > I'm thinking we might keep the strict POSIX isspace() behavior > with LC_CTYPE=C and/or POSIXLY_CORRECT=1, and use iswnbspace() > by default, since that's the most common operation one would want, > and is consistent with libreoffice for example. > I'll adjust the patch along those lines. Full patch attached. cheers, Pádraig
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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> To: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org> Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, 34524-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> CS.UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 20:26:55 -0800
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On 24/02/19 19:55, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 24/02/19 17:07, Pádraig Brady wrote: >> So non break space is generally considered a word delimiter, >> though there are complications you detail from unicode. >> >> In regard to options for enabling various behaviors for wc(1), >> I'm thinking we might keep the strict POSIX isspace() behavior >> with LC_CTYPE=C and/or POSIXLY_CORRECT=1, and use iswnbspace() >> by default, since that's the most common operation one would want, >> and is consistent with libreoffice for example. >> I'll adjust the patch along those lines. > > Full patch attached. Updated patch attached. I'll push in a few hours. Marking this bug as done. cheers, Pádraig.
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From: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org> To: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigbrady.com> Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, 34524-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 14:52:49 +0100
Hi Pádraig, > >> In regard to options for enabling various behaviors for wc(1), > >> I'm thinking we might keep the strict POSIX isspace() behavior > >> with LC_CTYPE=C and/or POSIXLY_CORRECT=1, and use iswnbspace() > >> by default Since you plan to add a --words=... option in the future (as suggested by Paul or me), it would make sense to add this option now, instead of testing POSIXLY_CORRECT. If you introduce POSIXLY_CORRECT dependent behaviour now (and need to keep it for backward-compatibility), you'll have a hard to understand interface: What will the following do? env POSIXLY_CORRECT=1 wc --words=unicode wc --words=unicode Bruno
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From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com> To: Bruno Haible <bruno <at> clisp.org> Cc: vampyrebat <at> gmail.com, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>, 34524 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34524: wc: word count incorrect when words separated only by no-break space Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:31:43 -0800
On 09/03/19 05:52, Bruno Haible wrote: > Hi Pádraig, > >>>> In regard to options for enabling various behaviors for wc(1), >>>> I'm thinking we might keep the strict POSIX isspace() behavior >>>> with LC_CTYPE=C and/or POSIXLY_CORRECT=1, and use iswnbspace() >>>> by default > > Since you plan to add a --words=... option in the future (as suggested > by Paul or me), it would make sense to add this option now, instead > of testing POSIXLY_CORRECT. If you introduce POSIXLY_CORRECT dependent > behaviour now (and need to keep it for backward-compatibility), you'll > have a hard to understand interface: What will the following do? > > env POSIXLY_CORRECT=1 wc --words=unicode > wc --words=unicode Well until we actually support more contextual unicode word separation operation, the --words option parameter would be a bit redundant. Generally no-one would need to use POSIXLY_CORRECT directly with wc, rather setting it globally on a system or script to minimize changes. In the above example --words=unicode would be an explicit option to operate in extension to POSIX, and so POSIXLY_CORRECT would be ignored there. cheers, Pádraig
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