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$ mv a b
mv: overwrite 'b'? y
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'

User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me?

Full story:
$ mkdir a
$ touch b
mv: overwrite 'b'? y
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
$ \mv a b
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
$ alias
alias mv='mv -i'

So even if -i is in effect, please do the check before asking users
useless questions.




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Did you consider that more than one terminal can be open, and at the second=
 terminal, "b" could be renamed before replying to the mv command?

Regards=20
=C2=A0Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein
Montr=C3=A9al Qu=C3=A9bec, Canada

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    On Monday, March 25, 2019, 2:07:25 a.m. EDT, =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=
=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> wrote: =20
=20
 $ mv a b
mv: overwrite 'b'? y
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'

User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me?

Full story:
$ mkdir a
$ touch b
mv: overwrite 'b'? y
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
$ \mv a b
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
$ alias
alias mv=3D'mv -i'

So even if -i is in effect, please do the check before asking users
useless questions.



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<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with dire=
ctory 'a'<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">$ alias<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">alias=
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On 3/24/19 11:05 PM, =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson wrote:
> $ mv a b
> mv: overwrite 'b'? y
> mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
>
> User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me?

POSIX requires the useless question. That being said, the question could
be omitted in the case you describe, if POSIXLY_CORRECT is not specified.





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>>>>> "LSS" == Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenstein@HIDDEN> writes:
LSS> Did you consider that more than one terminal can be open, and at the
LSS> second terminal, "b" could be renamed before replying to the mv
LSS> command?

I don't know about all that. Let's hope the designers consider all aspects.




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On 2019-03-25 4:47 p.m., Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 3/24/19 11:05 PM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote:
>> $ mv a b
>> mv: overwrite 'b'? y
>> mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
>>
>> User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me?
> 
> POSIX requires the useless question. That being said, the question could
> be omitted in the case you describe, if POSIXLY_CORRECT is not specified.
> 

Marking this as a wishlist item.

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