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26.2; Calc temperature conversions

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From: "Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 19:33:28 +0000

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I started Emacs from Cygwin with

$ /cygdrive/c/emacs/emacs-26.2-x86_64/bin/runemacs.exe  -Q

I typed C-x * * to start Calc.

I entered '10 degC' and then

u c degF

I got 18, not the expected 50.

From *Calc Trail*:

Emacs Calculator Trail
alg' 10 * degC
cvun 18. * degF



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Message #8 received at 35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>
To: "Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
Cc: 35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#35608: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 18:19:26 -0300

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tags 35608 notabug
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"Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com> writes:

> I entered '10 degC' and then
> u c degF
> I got 18, not the expected 50.

Hello.

That's because ‘u c’ treats temperature units as relative, and not as
absolute.  The result you got means that a change of 10 degrees Celsius
equals to a change of 18 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to use ‘u t’ (calc-convert-temperature) to convert an absolute
temperature from one scale to another.  With that command, you'll get
the expected 50 degF.

Best regards,
Mauro.

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Message #13 received at 35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
To: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>
Cc: "35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#35608: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 21:27:21 +0000

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Thank you, Mauro.  I thought it gave absolute temperatures in previous versions (26.1, for example), but I just checked on version 25.1, and it, too, does as you say.

Bill

From: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 2:19 PM
To: Harris, Bill <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
Cc: 35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#35608: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions

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"Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com<mailto:wsharris <at> snopud.com>> writes:

> I entered '10 degC' and then
> u c degF
> I got 18, not the expected 50.

Hello.

That's because ‘u c’ treats temperature units as relative, and not as
absolute.  The result you got means that a change of 10 degrees Celsius
equals to a change of 18 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to use ‘u t’ (calc-convert-temperature) to convert an absolute
temperature from one scale to another.  With that command, you'll get
the expected 50 degF.

Best regards,
Mauro.

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Message #16 received at 35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: npostavs <at> gmail.com
To: "Harris\, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
Cc: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>,
 "35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#35608: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 10:50:01 -0400

close 35608
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"Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com> writes:

> Thank you, Mauro.  I thought it gave absolute temperatures in previous
> versions (26.1, for example), but I just checked on version 25.1, and
> it, too, does as you say.

Right, see also (info "(calc) Basic Operations on Units") or
<https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/calc/Basic-Operations-on-Units.html>,
which has exactly this example conversion:

       The ‘u c’ command treats temperature units (like ‘degC’ and ‘K’) as
    relative temperatures.  For example, ‘u c’ converts ‘10 degC’ to ‘18
    degF’: A change of 10 degrees Celsius corresponds to a change of 18
    degrees Fahrenheit.  To convert absolute temperatures, you can use the
    ‘u t’ (‘calc-convert-temperature’) command.  The value on the stack must
    be a simple units expression with units of temperature only.  This
    command would convert ‘10 degC’ to ‘50 degF’, the equivalent temperature
    on the Fahrenheit scale.

Message #21 received at 35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
To: "npostavs <at> gmail.com" <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>,
 "35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <35608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#35608: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:52:15 +0000

RTM, as they say.  Thanks!

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To: Harris, Bill <wsharris <at> snopud.com>
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Subject: Re: bug#35608: 26.2; Calc temperature conversions

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"Harris, Bill" <wsharris <at> snopud.com> writes:

> Thank you, Mauro.  I thought it gave absolute temperatures in previous 
> versions (26.1, for example), but I just checked on version 25.1, and 
> it, too, does as you say.

Right, see also (info "(calc) Basic Operations on Units") or <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/calc/Basic-Operations-on-Units.html>,
which has exactly this example conversion:

       The 'u c' command treats temperature units (like 'degC' and 'K') as
    relative temperatures.  For example, 'u c' converts '10 degC' to '18
    degF': A change of 10 degrees Celsius corresponds to a change of 18
    degrees Fahrenheit.  To convert absolute temperatures, you can use the
    'u t' ('calc-convert-temperature') command.  The value on the stack must
    be a simple units expression with units of temperature only.  This
    command would convert '10 degC' to '50 degF', the equivalent temperature
    on the Fahrenheit scale.

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