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From: hartzell <at> alerce.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.1; Problems with sieve-manage
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:05:55 -0700

I asked for help with these on the `help-gnu-emacs` mailing list and
Eric suggested that I also report them as bugs so that they don't get
lost.  Here is the email thread:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-06/msg00185.html

g.

---

I've been trying to use sieve-manage in GNU Emacs 26.1 on a Mac with
dovecot-pigeonhole-0.5.6 on a FreeBSD 12 system.

I've run into a few problems:

1. I can start sieve-manage, use the `f` key with the `<new script>`
   line highlighted, edit a script, and use `C-c C-l` to upload it to
   the server.

   The problem is that the script, on the server, is named `<new
   script>.sieve`, which is awkward.

   But worse, if/when I restart sieve-manage it offers me two choices,
   one labeled `<new script>` (which is the button to create a new
   script) and one which is the existing script which was saved under
   that same name.

   I've tried renaming the buffer, but the code has a preference for
   `sieve-buffer-script-name`.

   Is there some way to rename the buffer?

2. If I create a script directly on the server (e.g. `ape.sieve`) then
   start sieve-manage, I'm offered the chance to edit it.  If I move
   the highlighting to `ape.sieve` then use `f` to edit it, emacs
   becomes unresponsive.  I can break out of it with C-g.

   But, I've had it work once or twice.  I haven't figure out how to
   repeat it.

   If I look in `*sieve-manage-log*`, I can see that emacs has sent
   `GETSCRIPT "ape"` and I can see the text of the script in the
   response.

   I'm not sure what it's waiting for.

3. If I mess up my authentication info, I'm never given a chance to
   re-enter it.  When I enter the server name, it goes ahead and
   re-uses the bad info and fails.  The only way I've been able to
   figure out to be reprompted is to restart emacs.


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Message #8 received at 36266 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
To: hartzell <at> alerce.com
Cc: 36266 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36266: 26.1; Problems with sieve-manage
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:34:26 -0400

hartzell <at> alerce.com writes:

> 3. If I mess up my authentication info, I'm never given a chance to
>    re-enter it.  When I enter the server name, it goes ahead and
>    re-uses the bad info and fails.  The only way I've been able to
>    figure out to be reprompted is to restart emacs.

Not sure about the rest, but it looks like sieve-sasl-auth is using
auth-source, so M-x auth-source-forget-all-cached RET should work.

Message #11 received at 36266 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: hartzell <at> alerce.com
Cc: 36266 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36266: 26.1; Problems with sieve-manage
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:28:08 -0700

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

hartzell <at> alerce.com writes:

> I asked for help with these on the `help-gnu-emacs` mailing list and
> Eric suggested that I also report them as bugs so that they don't get
> lost.  Here is the email thread:
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-06/msg00185.html
>
> g.
>
> ---
>
> I've been trying to use sieve-manage in GNU Emacs 26.1 on a Mac with
> dovecot-pigeonhole-0.5.6 on a FreeBSD 12 system.
>
> I've run into a few problems:
>
> 1. I can start sieve-manage, use the `f` key with the `<new script>`
>    line highlighted, edit a script, and use `C-c C-l` to upload it to
>    the server.
>
>    The problem is that the script, on the server, is named `<new
>    script>.sieve`, which is awkward.
>
>    But worse, if/when I restart sieve-manage it offers me two choices,
>    one labeled `<new script>` (which is the button to create a new
>    script) and one which is the existing script which was saved under
>    that same name.
>
>    I've tried renaming the buffer, but the code has a preference for
>    `sieve-buffer-script-name`.
>
>    Is there some way to rename the buffer?

I think it's a little weird that `sieve-new-script' (which defaults to
"<new script>" is a configurable option at all. IMO, there are two
separate concerns: some placeholder text for the button that's used to
create a new script (there's no reason to make this configurable), and
the default name for a newly-created script (the new name should be
prompted for on a script-by-script basis, and there's no reason to have
a default at all).

I've attached a simple diff which checks if your new script has the same
name as `sieve-new-script' and prompts you to rename it. But I think a
more sensible solution would be to remove the `sieve-new-script' option
altogether. Then hard-code the "new script" button text, and always
prompt for a name for a new script.

> 2. If I create a script directly on the server (e.g. `ape.sieve`) then
>    start sieve-manage, I'm offered the chance to edit it.  If I move
>    the highlighting to `ape.sieve` then use `f` to edit it, emacs
>    becomes unresponsive.  I can break out of it with C-g.
>
>    But, I've had it work once or twice.  I haven't figure out how to
>    repeat it.
>
>    If I look in `*sieve-manage-log*`, I can see that emacs has sent
>    `GETSCRIPT "ape"` and I can see the text of the script in the
>    response.
>
>    I'm not sure what it's waiting for.

I believe this is something to do with an infloop in
`accept-process-output' that was previously preventing me from logging
in to my sieve servers at all. This is just a guess, because it matches
pretty closely behavior that I saw discussed in another bug report here.
But this has since been cleared up for me in Emacs master, so maybe if
you build a new Emacs it will start working? We hope?

Eric

[fix-sieve-script-name.diff (text/x-patch, attachment)]

Message #14 received at 36266 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: hartzell <at> alerce.com
Cc: 36266 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36266: 26.1; Problems with sieve-manage
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 08:11:50 -0700

On 07/25/19 11:28 AM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> hartzell <at> alerce.com writes:
>
>> I asked for help with these on the `help-gnu-emacs` mailing list and
>> Eric suggested that I also report them as bugs so that they don't get
>> lost.  Here is the email thread:
>>
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-06/msg00185.html
>>
>> g.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> I've been trying to use sieve-manage in GNU Emacs 26.1 on a Mac with
>> dovecot-pigeonhole-0.5.6 on a FreeBSD 12 system.
>>
>> I've run into a few problems:
>>
>> 1. I can start sieve-manage, use the `f` key with the `<new script>`
>>    line highlighted, edit a script, and use `C-c C-l` to upload it to
>>    the server.
>>
>>    The problem is that the script, on the server, is named `<new
>>    script>.sieve`, which is awkward.
>>
>>    But worse, if/when I restart sieve-manage it offers me two choices,
>>    one labeled `<new script>` (which is the button to create a new
>>    script) and one which is the existing script which was saved under
>>    that same name.
>>
>>    I've tried renaming the buffer, but the code has a preference for
>>    `sieve-buffer-script-name`.
>>
>>    Is there some way to rename the buffer?
>
> I think it's a little weird that `sieve-new-script' (which defaults to
> "<new script>" is a configurable option at all. IMO, there are two
> separate concerns: some placeholder text for the button that's used to
> create a new script (there's no reason to make this configurable), and
> the default name for a newly-created script (the new name should be
> prompted for on a script-by-script basis, and there's no reason to have
> a default at all).
>
> I've attached a simple diff which checks if your new script has the same
> name as `sieve-new-script' and prompts you to rename it. But I think a
> more sensible solution would be to remove the `sieve-new-script' option
> altogether. Then hard-code the "new script" button text, and always
> prompt for a name for a new script.

I'll just do the simpler fix for now...

Message #19 received at 36266-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: 36266-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36266: 26.1; Problems with sieve-manage
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:06:12 -0700

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> On 07/25/19 11:28 AM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> hartzell <at> alerce.com writes:
>>
>>> I asked for help with these on the `help-gnu-emacs` mailing list and
>>> Eric suggested that I also report them as bugs so that they don't get
>>> lost.  Here is the email thread:
>>>
>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-06/msg00185.html
>>>
>>> g.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> I've been trying to use sieve-manage in GNU Emacs 26.1 on a Mac with
>>> dovecot-pigeonhole-0.5.6 on a FreeBSD 12 system.
>>>
>>> I've run into a few problems:
>>>
>>> 1. I can start sieve-manage, use the `f` key with the `<new script>`
>>>    line highlighted, edit a script, and use `C-c C-l` to upload it to
>>>    the server.
>>>
>>>    The problem is that the script, on the server, is named `<new
>>>    script>.sieve`, which is awkward.
>>>
>>>    But worse, if/when I restart sieve-manage it offers me two choices,
>>>    one labeled `<new script>` (which is the button to create a new
>>>    script) and one which is the existing script which was saved under
>>>    that same name.
>>>
>>>    I've tried renaming the buffer, but the code has a preference for
>>>    `sieve-buffer-script-name`.
>>>
>>>    Is there some way to rename the buffer?
>>
>> I think it's a little weird that `sieve-new-script' (which defaults to
>> "<new script>" is a configurable option at all. IMO, there are two
>> separate concerns: some placeholder text for the button that's used to
>> create a new script (there's no reason to make this configurable), and
>> the default name for a newly-created script (the new name should be
>> prompted for on a script-by-script basis, and there's no reason to have
>> a default at all).
>>
>> I've attached a simple diff which checks if your new script has the same
>> name as `sieve-new-script' and prompts you to rename it. But I think a
>> more sensible solution would be to remove the `sieve-new-script' option
>> altogether. Then hard-code the "new script" button text, and always
>> prompt for a name for a new script.
>
> I'll just do the simpler fix for now...

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