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The article at
<https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=3D20190624#guixsd> has a
screenshot showing =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99 suggesting to run =E2=80=98g=
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package -u=E2=80=99.  This is obviously wrong.

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Le 25 juin 2019 16:08:19 GMT+02:00, "Ludovic Court=C3=A8s" <ludo@gnu=2Eorg>=
 a =C3=A9crit :
>The article at
><https://distrowatch=2Ecom/weekly=2Ephp?issue=3D20190624#guixsd> has a
>screenshot showing =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99 suggesting to run =E2=80=
=98guix pull && guix
>package -u=E2=80=99=2E  This is obviously wrong=2E
>
>Ludo=E2=80=99=2E

Here is a patch to address this issue on Guix System=2E It creates new fil=
es in /etc/skel: an initial profile (=2Econfig/guix/initial) tgat only cont=
ains a symlink to /run/current-system/profile/bin/guix and the current prof=
ile as a symlink to the initial profile=2E

At first boot, and for new users, guix well be found in the current profil=
e, and stays there after guix pull, so we don't need to use hash guix anymo=
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Hello!

Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Here is a patch to address this issue on Guix System. It creates new
> files in /etc/skel: an initial profile (.config/guix/initial) tgat
> only contains a symlink to /run/current-system/profile/bin/guix and
> the current profile as a symlink to the initial profile.
>
> At first boot, and for new users, guix well be found in the current
> profile, and stays there after guix pull, so we don't need to use hash
> guix anymore.

I think this addresses the =E2=80=9Chash guix=E2=80=9D issue (this will no =
longer be
needed with this patch), but it only indirectly solves the =E2=80=9Cguix pu=
ll=E2=80=9D
suggestion issue, right?

> From 89b5fa77af87e1a1537c10e929439a902806cc5c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 14:24:55 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: system: Symlink guix inside an initial guix pull
>  profile.
>
> This patch adds an initial guix pull profile to the skeletons files used
> on Guix System.  This ensures that users don't have to type 'hash guix'
> after their first guix pull, and prevents 'guix pull' from suggesting to
> run 'guix pull' after it finished successfuly.

It prevents the suggestion, but only because the symlink appears to be
new.  If you change the mtime of the symlink, or if you run:

  GUIX_DISTRO_AGE_WARNING=3D1s guix pull

I think you still get the =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80=9D recommendation.

> * gnu/system/shadow.scm (skeleton-directory): Symlink guix inside an
> initial guix pull profile.

Perhaps we should add it to =E2=80=98default-skeletons=E2=80=99 instead of
special-casing it here?  WDYT?

Thanks for working on it!

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Ping!  :-)

  https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/36374

Now=E2=80=99s a good time to fix this one!

Ludo=E2=80=99.

Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Hello!
>
> Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> Here is a patch to address this issue on Guix System. It creates new
>> files in /etc/skel: an initial profile (.config/guix/initial) tgat
>> only contains a symlink to /run/current-system/profile/bin/guix and
>> the current profile as a symlink to the initial profile.
>>
>> At first boot, and for new users, guix well be found in the current
>> profile, and stays there after guix pull, so we don't need to use hash
>> guix anymore.
>
> I think this addresses the =E2=80=9Chash guix=E2=80=9D issue (this will n=
o longer be
> needed with this patch), but it only indirectly solves the =E2=80=9Cguix =
pull=E2=80=9D
> suggestion issue, right?
>
>> From 89b5fa77af87e1a1537c10e929439a902806cc5c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 14:24:55 +0200
>> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: system: Symlink guix inside an initial guix pull
>>  profile.
>>
>> This patch adds an initial guix pull profile to the skeletons files used
>> on Guix System.  This ensures that users don't have to type 'hash guix'
>> after their first guix pull, and prevents 'guix pull' from suggesting to
>> run 'guix pull' after it finished successfuly.
>
> It prevents the suggestion, but only because the symlink appears to be
> new.  If you change the mtime of the symlink, or if you run:
>
>   GUIX_DISTRO_AGE_WARNING=3D1s guix pull
>
> I think you still get the =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80=9D recommendation.
>
>> * gnu/system/shadow.scm (skeleton-directory): Symlink guix inside an
>> initial guix pull profile.
>
> Perhaps we should add it to =E2=80=98default-skeletons=E2=80=99 instead of
> special-casing it here?  WDYT?
>
> Thanks for working on it!
>
> Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi,

This old report and associated patch is uncommented since a while?

    <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/36374>

What do we do?  Include the proposed patch?  Other ideas?


Cheers,
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Hi,

zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> skribis:

> This old report and associated patch is uncommented since a while?
>
>     <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/36374>
>
> What do we do?  Include the proposed patch?  Other ideas?

I think the initial patch doesn=E2=80=99t work reliably, as I wrote back th=
en,
but something like that might work.  Julien?

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi Julien,

On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 09:37, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> wrote:

>>     <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/36374>
>>
>> What do we do?  Include the proposed patch?  Other ideas?
>
> I think the initial patch doesn=E2=80=99t work reliably, as I wrote back =
then,
> but something like that might work.  Julien?

Friendly ping. :-)

Cheers,
simon

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