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Hi Leo,
Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> skribis:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 01:24:01PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote:
>> So, I suggest we add a 1 second timeout to this read.
>>=20
>> I can work on that next week.
>
> I did try working on this, after reading the code in (guix scripts
> offload (call-with-timeout)).
The =E2=80=98start=E2=80=99 method of the =E2=80=98urandom-seed=E2=80=99 Sh=
epherd service runs in PID=C2=A01,
so we certainly don=E2=80=99t want to fiddle with SIGALRM in that context, =
which
is what =E2=80=98call-with-timeout=E2=80=99 does.
Instead, I think we should use =E2=80=98select=E2=80=99 with a timeout:
(call-with-input-file "/dev/hwrng"
(lambda (port)
(match (select (list port) '() '() 3)
=E2=80=A6)))
I think we can then use =E2=80=98get-bytevector-n!=E2=80=99, assuming it do=
esn=E2=80=99t block
if less than COUNT bytes are available (I=E2=80=99m not sure this is the ca=
se.)
HTH!
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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I did try working on this, after reading the code in (guix scripts offload (call-with-timeout)). But, I couldn't make it work at all =E2=80=94 it always fails, with all the services depending on urandom-seed-service failing, breaking the boot. I don't know how to debug or work interactively in this part of the system. 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Jun 2019, at 21:03, Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Perhaps, but if the reason for the slowness on their first boot was a > > suboptimal /dev/hwrng source, I would expect it to be equally slow for > > each boot, since we unconditionally read 64 bytes each time. >=20 > It=E2=80=99s 512 bytes, not that that should fundamentally change anythin= g. Oh right, my bad. It's been a while... Anyways, this should either work immediately or fail. Aside from getrandom(2), which we aren't using here, nothing related to this stuff should ever block, and if it does then it's a bug we need to work around. So, I suggest we add a 1 second timeout to this read. 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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 36380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2019 06:47:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 28 02:47:53 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40284 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hgkfp-0003eR-G9 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 02:47:53 -0400 Received: from mx2.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.215]:18054) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rob@HIDDEN>) id 1hgkfm-0003eD-V3 for 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 02:47:52 -0400 Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org (smtp2.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:105:465:1:2:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7446BA020C; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:47:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.241]) by hefe.heinlein-support.de (hefe.heinlein-support.de [91.198.250.172]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id yfKH0kvIyeI6; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: bug#36380: service urandom-seed takes too long on boot From: Robert Vollmert <rob@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20190627190314.GA7403@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:47:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <EA773339-2CC9-486E-99B8-A2E71B34467E@HIDDEN> References: <F88CEF04-9BFA-4886-8A2D-AD84AE278D07@HIDDEN> <20190626154721.GA2999@HIDDEN> <87zhm3xdfu.fsf@HIDDEN> <20190627190314.GA7403@HIDDEN> To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36380 Cc: 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > On 27. Jun 2019, at 21:03, Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> wrote: > Perhaps, but if the reason for the slowness on their first boot was a > suboptimal /dev/hwrng source, I would expect it to be equally slow for > each boot, since we unconditionally read 64 bytes each time. It=E2=80=99s 512 bytes, not that that should fundamentally change = anything.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 36380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2019 20:00:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 27 16:00:49 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hgaZc-0004Pm-RB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:00:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33638) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hgaZb-0004PY-2q for 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:00:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hgaZU-00060x-T4; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:00:40 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=35018 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hgaZU-0001pS-AT; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:00:40 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36380: service urandom-seed takes too long on boot References: <F88CEF04-9BFA-4886-8A2D-AD84AE278D07@HIDDEN> <20190626154721.GA2999@HIDDEN> <87zhm3xdfu.fsf@HIDDEN> <20190627190314.GA7403@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 9 Messidor an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 22:00:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190627190314.GA7403@HIDDEN> (Leo Famulari's message of "Thu, 27 Jun 2019 15:03:14 -0400") Message-ID: <87r27evlwa.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36380 Cc: 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Vollmert <rob@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> skribis: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> We had a =E2=80=9Cbug report=E2=80=9D at >> <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=3D20190624#guixsd>, which may = be >> due to the same issue: >>=20 >> The first time I loaded Guix the boot process took an unusually long >> time. At one point the system appeared to lock up for about five >> minutes before continuing. In the end, from boot menu to graphical >> login screen, the start-up time totalled about ten minutes. > > Perhaps, but if the reason for the slowness on their first boot was a > suboptimal /dev/hwrng source, I would expect it to be equally slow for > each boot, since we unconditionally read 64 bytes each time. Perhaps VirtualBox behaves this way? For instance, the VM was rebooted but VirtualBox itself was still running, and thus it had a good random seed to start from on the second boot (does that make sense?). I guess we should try. > They are using an old machine with a spinning disk, so who knows... Still, what else could be taking this long? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
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I d= on=E2=80=99t > really know more; here=E2=80=99s some dmesg output that might be relevant, > happy to provide more info. Okay, I've asked them about it on IRC: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=3D2019-06-2= 7,Thu Let's wait and see what they think about the issue. --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEsFFZSPHn08G5gDigJkb6MLrKfwgFAl0VFrIACgkQJkb6MLrK fwjsXBAA71rlRFfbPpKY+ReKmJXfl9BygIKBSdiyI3Bm02DDUNQthEmXixJlZ/Bm mBPaU7tnj83qlmCuF1z08oDj0hXgrvNTX9V4+BGK7IXLGPiG1ij3+/c6n+gW1ywG BhanbNXiarEZ3gQ1fN0f25qOqmqRQnJM+qx+RgelIJUsJ1TNHxE056fi1AiayqBc G70FgAVIn5ChrgiooK36S7FbM4d0KbHjcQSH7v594/iVXPyc5oOZKuIyWDuybBTt Y8SdVT6Y151CwNXVia8+Y0g+esl3Pl20JF/V1CJUI7ZSLtTx0hvnDOuIa86xYkU5 ELfZ6D4h+BhaOKnUCTkvfc2RaEsAL9+oVLvteAraW62lN3+7Mq7vtXvlNvBXsuXt b9FHQA96m8zwChJPb0lZIsQ1NBPqF7ToahfZLl9XzlKgyaD8Slca5+v3MnqelefA r/+1rizG3a0KJIuZ95P3NSemPe/R3CNuiCmzgv/njS9V7MuvZivFxPKcy6L9U5zJ C/GItmv07UriYoSwT4mqBFTQVAf00dKUVXelDKpIsvJPb54/s8ZUVV+xSruefoRW l7FHDWgu2Q1tmHLA/G7oIKI6PVUmL/CtgR5eRGPzOKm/c8Waq2XIsgshugvBkf6S FlQWQ7BOQhxDnHBWUpYv/4P41F7NXXXeuAdCqkC5qfgUp4QdoMM= =Vv23 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN--
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
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At one point the system appeared to lock up for about five > minutes before continuing. In the end, from boot menu to graphical > login screen, the start-up time totalled about ten minutes. Perhaps, but if the reason for the slowness on their first boot was a suboptimal /dev/hwrng source, I would expect it to be equally slow for each boot, since we unconditionally read 64 bytes each time. However, their next sentence says, "Curiously, after the first boot, Guix started up considerably faster, generally taking less than a minute to arrive at the login screen." They are using an old machine with a spinning disk, so who knows... --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEsFFZSPHn08G5gDigJkb6MLrKfwgFAl0VEvAACgkQJkb6MLrK fwi72Q/+KFZ5pVsyeDr/ouu9JIGSCfc+cCpSu88cOW0MhtWqLN+J38Gt+mtHHPIq n847ae2WKe+Sa/snMFmqRAkUgUw4vcjJgYFPwPU2f+EQP6Hl422mgdKknbMJbsaN poOQJyf/I5sY96BPYHICegFfHUVd8NHwDTFbcPnh6TfU9WN/fx4CMuG6fy5Ten3/ NSZ6m7QFYncrwvb9J9JJmNFl3LFhulA4Y68/lFnGBL3xVSHNDndOMBUMssg6EmsI y+oLIYiUsfdjfW/OsvZQNqdbGszgk0Ifany8n+u4KOTlMjv7mhIlXPyL0TfkU3XW 5Vc5R7ga7f4jxRo2cDAIP55HhZ+lc3Y5nr59mnxzw/bIPWZpdtqYqE0zOlq4EIQ5 eQFvSZdQv4yLXp5pD8hSxuLlh3Gj3qjqIqgFqf54d3XL+bWd+X1M6F1u+pKKLaQa js/O3yoR1xr11TH9fK2psA3FWwZWVal7mc/ujDHtd+njvf56jrbBZ10wqZlAkhPf 2mbecVMNw9udQCrY+crivuiF+oCjYjNBQ85l7mUed92xK1eLcraPYJLpN/8ZEsdJ HvBqSQOBkhQvstvC1GaSAo5xAZj+mX0UblRrM5CqVyZEDgBvqnX3cuayjRWUUthE moHJvT0CpCvQHDhYI/gSNFJhLPBOY11fZtoV5oS3XYKrmcgz0/Q= =iTHL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB--
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
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Full text available.Received: (at 36380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2019 15:20:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 27 11:20:37 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39251 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hgWCT-0008Jv-JY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:20:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hgWCR-0008Jf-7i for 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:20:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hgWCH-0001Ir-Si; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:20:26 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=45788 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hgWCF-0007Iv-Tp; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:20:25 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36380: service urandom-seed takes too long on boot References: <F88CEF04-9BFA-4886-8A2D-AD84AE278D07@HIDDEN> <20190626154721.GA2999@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 9 Messidor an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:20:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190626154721.GA2999@HIDDEN> (Leo Famulari's message of "Wed, 26 Jun 2019 11:47:21 -0400") Message-ID: <87zhm3xdfu.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36380 Cc: 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Vollmert <rob@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Leo, Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> skribis: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:12:28PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote: >> On my VPS, booting takes forever (long enough that for a long >> time I thought the install had failed). I just rebooted again, >> and it took over 7 minutes, see attached screenshot. > > Yikes, that's way too long. Can you say what VPS it is? We had a =E2=80=9Cbug report=E2=80=9D at <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=3D20190624#guixsd>, which may be due to the same issue: The first time I loaded Guix the boot process took an unusually long time. At one point the system appeared to lock up for about five minutes before continuing. In the end, from boot menu to graphical login screen, the start-up time totalled about ten minutes. The author says they were running Guix in VirtualBox. I=E2=80=99m glad Rob= ert=E2=80=99s bug report has more info than that one. :-) What should we do? Ludo=E2=80=99.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 36380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2019 16:02:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 26 12:02:19 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hgANH-0001NV-Fq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:02:19 -0400 Received: from mx1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.212]:19324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rob@HIDDEN>) id 1hgANE-0001NG-Ri for 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:02:17 -0400 Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:105:465:1:1:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29F045068C; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:02:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by gerste.heinlein-support.de (gerste.heinlein-support.de [91.198.250.173]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id p7V-gjpkUCAJ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:02:05 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: bug#36380: service urandom-seed takes too long on boot From: Robert Vollmert <rob@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20190626154721.GA2999@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:02:03 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <51B21C84-982D-4DC0-AEA7-A32EA0F855B8@HIDDEN> References: <F88CEF04-9BFA-4886-8A2D-AD84AE278D07@HIDDEN> <20190626154721.GA2999@HIDDEN> To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36380 Cc: 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > On 26. Jun 2019, at 17:47, Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:12:28PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote: >> On my VPS, booting takes forever (long enough that for a long >> time I thought the install had failed). I just rebooted again, >> and it took over 7 minutes, see attached screenshot. >=20 > Yikes, that's way too long. Can you say what VPS it is? It=E2=80=99s with arpnetworks.com, their default =E2=80=9Csmall" VPS. I = don=E2=80=99t really know more; here=E2=80=99s some dmesg output that might be = relevant, happy to provide more info. [ 0.000000] DMI: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), BIOS = Ubuntu-1.8.2-1ubuntu1.1 04/01/2014 [ 0.000000] Hypervisor detected: KVM [ 0.000000] kvm-clock: Using msrs 4b564d01 and 4b564d00 [ 0.000000] kvm-clock: cpu 0, msr 2a782001, primary cpu clock [ 0.000000] kvm-clock: using sched offset of 1160634602574609 cycles [ 0.000002] clocksource: kvm-clock: mask: 0xffffffffffffffff = max_cycles: 0x1cd42e4dffb, max_idle_ns: 881590591483 ns [ 0.000004] tsc: Detected 3066.774 MHz processor
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
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I just rebooted again, > and it took over 7 minutes, see attached screenshot. Yikes, that's way too long. Can you say what VPS it is? > I would suggest skipping the seeding from /dev/hwrng by default > if /var/lib/random-seed is available. I=E2=80=99m assuming here that my > problem is not too rare =E2=80=94 if it is, an option to disable the > seeding from /dev/hwrng seems like a good idea. Originally I added the HWRNG read specifically the for VM / VPS use case [0], where the first boot environment is relatively deterministic. I agree it's superfluous if the random-seed file is handled properly but it's nice to unconditionally have this other entropy source that avoids the pitfalls of file-based entropy seeding. Ideally the hypervisor would seed the guest's HWRNG interface with the host's /dev/urandom, which would avoid significant delays. It seems they are using some other more limited resource instead. Does anyone else have an opinion or experience with this issue? It would be great to know how widespread it is. 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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#36380; Package guix.
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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::433 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 36380 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: alex.sassmannshausen@HIDDEN Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi Robert, Robert Vollmert <rob@HIDDEN> writes: > On my VPS, booting takes forever (long enough that for a long > time I thought the install had failed). I just rebooted again, > and it took over 7 minutes, see attached screenshot. > > I would suggest skipping the seeding from /dev/hwrng by default > if /var/lib/random-seed is available. I=E2=80=99m assuming here that my > problem is not too rare =E2=80=94 if it is, an option to disable the > seeding from /dev/hwrng seems like a good idea. I'm not sure I'm qualified on best practices with regard to urandom, but anecdotally, my servers are booting pretty fast, within a minute, consistently. This is even when booting a qemu virtual image rather than a VPS. Perhaps something else is going on here? Alex
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X-Received-From: 2001:67c:2050:104:0:1:25:1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --Apple-Mail=_6A8C6D4F-1EAA-4348-9D2A-9910C75A151E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On my VPS, booting takes forever (long enough that for a long time I thought the install had failed). I just rebooted again, and it took over 7 minutes, see attached screenshot. I would suggest skipping the seeding from /dev/hwrng by default if /var/lib/random-seed is available. I=E2=80=99m assuming here that my problem is not too rare =E2=80=94 if it is, an option to disable the seeding from /dev/hwrng seems like a good idea. --Apple-Mail=_6A8C6D4F-1EAA-4348-9D2A-9910C75A151E Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="Apple-Mail=_296CF315-3D78-4713-BD0E-4BAF49D6E29A" --Apple-Mail=_296CF315-3D78-4713-BD0E-4BAF49D6E29A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">On my VPS, = booting takes forever (long enough that for a long<div class=3D"">time I = thought the install had failed). 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