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Subject: Re: bug#36434: 26.2; smie-rule-next-p needs smie--after to be defined
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> When writing SMIE indentation rules, as per `smie-rules-function`,
> when an :elem is received (confirmed at least with 'empty-line-token)
> it is not possible to call the function smie-rule-parent-p, because
> the smie--after variable has not been defined.
[ Hmm... this is related to the smie-rule--parent mess. ]
But I'm not completely sure how we can define "parent" in a really
unambiguous way, here: in the `empty-line-token` case we're presumably
on an empty line, so there's no token either immediately before or
immediately after.
Basically, I think this is a documentation bug: the smie-rule-*
functions are meant to be used for the :after and :before cases, but not
for :elem where there isn't necessarily such a clear "current token"
(tho I think it would be good to be more careful and try to
define such a "current token" when we can).
> (defvar smie--after)
> (setq smie--after (point))
Or use smie-backward-sexp rather than smie-rule-parent, which doesn't
depend on internals.
Stefan
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When writing SMIE indentation rules, as per `smie-rules-function`,
when an :elem is received (confirmed at least with 'empty-line-token)
it is not possible to call the function smie-rule-parent-p, because
the smie--after variable has not been defined.
A workaround is to define the variable locally, e.g.
(defvar smie--after)
(setq smie--after (point))
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