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> FWIW What broke things for me, was that it reads the .emacs file from
> /home/sb directory, but it doesn't read /home/sb/.emacs.d/elpa/ and
> therefore doesn't find the packages my .emacs refers to, so that startup
> breaks in the middle of the setup and nothing works as expected.
Indeed, as a first-approximation, it uses "~$LOGNAME/.emacs" but "$HOME/.emacs.d/elpa/".
In many circumstances "~$LOGNAME/" is the same as "$HOME/", and in yet
other circumstances Emacs uses "$HOME/.emacs" (which I find very handy)
rather than "~$LOGNAME/.emacs".
I'd rather we drop this special case of using "~$LOGNAME/.emacs" when we
decide that we're in "su". I know it's long standing behavior, but
there are many other ways for the user to get the same result, so
I think we can get rid of this dangerous quirk.
Stefan
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> Wouldn't it be simpler to do this in the shell, e.g.,
>
> cat >>/root/.bashrc <<'EOF'
> alias emacs='emacs -u "$LOGNAME"'
> EOF
>
> although I would personally suggest
>
> cat >>/root/.bashrc <<'EOF'
> alias emacs='echo Do not run emacs as root'
> EOF
Yes, there are various ways to skin this cat.
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Subject: Re: bug#36583: 26.1;
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
> How 'bout let the /root/.emacs file do something like:
>
> (load (concat "~" (user-login-name) "/.emacs"))
>
> ?
> For convenience, we could provide an ad-hoc function that would do that
> "right" (i.e. looking for .emacs, .emacs.d/init.el, and things like
> that). We could even put it in /root/.emacs.d/early-init.el.
Wouldn't it be simpler to do this in the shell, e.g.,
cat >>/root/.bashrc <<'EOF'
alias emacs='emacs -u "$LOGNAME"'
EOF
although I would personally suggest
cat >>/root/.bashrc <<'EOF'
alias emacs='echo Do not run emacs as root'
EOF
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Subject: Re: bug#36583: 26.1;
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> > I can see why you'd like that, but I think this should be the result of
> > an explicit choice rather than the default behavior.
>
> How do you suggest a user indicate that choice?
Don't know. How 'bout let the /root/.emacs file do something like:
(load (concat "~" (user-login-name) "/.emacs"))
?
For convenience, we could provide an ad-hoc function that would do that
"right" (i.e. looking for .emacs, .emacs.d/init.el, and things like
that). We could even put it in /root/.emacs.d/early-init.el.
Stefan
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> I think I asked for this feature so that when I run Emacs as root I
> will get the commands I am accustomed to.
I can see why you'd like that, but I think this should be the result of
an explicit choice rather than the default behavior.
Stefan
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Full text available.Received: (at 36583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2019 09:21:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 13 05:21:38 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41463 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hmEDq-0006rc-AA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 05:21:38 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:54180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <whitebox@HIDDEN>) id 1hmEDn-0006rS-QO for 36583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 05:21:37 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45m46j5mVtz1rB8y; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:21:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45m46j41ZBz1qqkQ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:21:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BOSWeMb7Npv4; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:21:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 6pwgGe674jDm88qNtIax1XNnNi5E2NKbU6Gm2EjhoxlOvPZY3iis+5HwRUAcZDkk Received: from linux.local (ppp-46-244-161-174.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.161.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:21:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A86601E5386; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:21:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> To: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36583: 26.1; emacs 26 tries loading original user's .emacs after su to root References: <87ims94p6p.fsf@HIDDEN> <m3sgrdtxzx.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvbly0yzbl.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <m37e8op3em.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1hm58n-0003kd-LO@HIDDEN> X-Yow: Yow! Is this sexual intercourse yet?? Is it, huh, is it?? Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:21:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <E1hm58n-0003kd-LO@HIDDEN> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:39:49 -0400") Message-ID: <m24l3qi92e.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36583 Cc: 36583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, sb@HIDDEN, monnier@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Jul 12 2019, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> wrote: > I think I asked for this feature so that when I run Emacs as root I > will get the commands I am accustomed to. Nowadays this is perhaps obsoleted by Tramp. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@HIDDEN GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."
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Full text available.Received: (at 36583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2019 15:00:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 11:00:33 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hlx2H-0002MO-0T for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:00:33 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:45864) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1hlx2F-0002ME-Nb for 36583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:00:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1hlx2C-00074O-1v; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:00:30 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36583: 26.1; emacs 26 tries loading original user's .emacs after su to root References: <87ims94p6p.fsf@HIDDEN> <m3sgrdtxzx.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvbly0yzbl.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83wogn3ghs.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwva7djwbwu.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83d0if2tj3.fsf@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEX+/gfj2Qr//whAOgT/ /wkKSUWSAAACfklEQVQ4jU2U2xmkIAyFI04BXCwgRAogxgIU6b+mPXFm91teUH5zOwmStFvnfLY5 47xPPGkqPfNCInPdHNzbHMAWRKK2F+DDJ0vbZORZVeaQNF4gOvcc7kMktP0AGHIt1GSytj3TcjCF zx7DnLMhRmtCRfbIoWSisMbPnMMBPFKhPVKolimUSENEAIawA5xJNbegazQRDy5shHesPYubSruQ 1RQi5dX9cz3G2olFylbJzfByUCKpGc8BwMaN4Aw/9WBlhisxmIqKg1sFADlLIeFVufbPrJTMs1wO WjX1EIjMrDeAYhvyQeKmCaUXpRTFgZlGB9ViyYFMySAaggNYCIjSZe0cfuBrYZ0kAEDyqv0Lbsqs pgzVOuqT2h1wa5fXYQZ1ag9lk/0FCO5AiqEwaGsiazzFTplfsH5BACghih3TgbQBEGRRnIrJEux8 wQxcLIqntOZmvGQ7m4PBYiiEAPZ8Q6i/gARqoVkAz1EBjp8rL1C9yX3U/uDt/A9g2qQe7dLnnLdC Xvu8IAnAfrRm6waXDqC4p8TUJmMsrpKZ0wsu2jAmkBCJ4SR9oF+BD7g6hDmEvWTxL9UFwobgBwdm SUvGBEwpudrP1QlHIvrk5hfgPssLFACDxU2fo+FiydRiHVEMYMCinmiSDgArhvLMIh0+3Pt56YRF m6Vgg0n0GDKebejXVSku4YMxQOelrdsoTdHgATC/4BQeoyDRD6R8XbWvK4zOGNZwoQFme4NfHryH EaalVE7/9E33Wj1dTSn5INvp6dz9X4Hv1j+QW1vjEpe/krx7D3Sp+1Pvw1fE1xTzfnkffPBxAnzR dy3pt+Jvv35oWRbcTkIevvBzmH8AXd+kTBu5Ba4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:00:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83d0if2tj3.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:53:52 +0300") Message-ID: <m3k1cnti0k.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Because it'll run with full admin privileges the user's ~/.emacs which >> was likely not written under the assumption that you have to be very >> careful not to mess up the whole system. > > Isn't [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36583 Cc: 36583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, sb@HIDDEN, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Because it'll run with full admin privileges the user's ~/.emacs which >> was likely not written under the assumption that you have to be very >> careful not to mess up the whole system. > > Isn't that what 'su' is supposed to allow? Under su you can run any command -- that's true. But it's unexpected to have a program run this code as root. At least, it's not what I would expect, and I have not written the code in /home/larsi/.emacs under the assumption that is has to be safe for root to run. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Subject: Re: bug#36583: 26.1;
emacs 26 tries loading original user's .emacs after su to root
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>> > This is explicitly documented in the manual.
>> > "How Emacs Finds Your Init File".
>> FWIW, I find this behavior very surprising (and dangerous).
> Why is it dangerous?
Because it'll run with full admin privileges the user's ~/.emacs which
was likely not written under the assumption that you have to be very
careful not to mess up the whole system.
Stefan
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > [...hhhmmm...] Ha! Found it! > > commit a726e0d12ccb1c49ca1f3e1fbe64addea9b7d3b4 > Author: Jim Blandy <jimb@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu Jul 11 23:17:40 1991 +0000 > > Initial revision > > diff --git a/l [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36583 Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN>, 36583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Steinar Bang <sb@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > [...hhhmmm...] Ha! Found it! > > commit a726e0d12ccb1c49ca1f3e1fbe64addea9b7d3b4 > Author: Jim Blandy <jimb@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu Jul 11 23:17:40 1991 +0000 > > Initial revision > > diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el > --- /dev/null > +++ b/lisp/startup.el > @@ -0,0 +160,6 @@ > + ;; Figure out which user's init file to load, > + ;; either from the environment or from the options. > + (setq init-file-user (if noninteractive nil (user-login-name))) > + ;; If user has not done su, use current $HOME to find .emacs. > + (and init-file-user (string= init-file-user (user-real-login-name)) > + (setq init-file-user "")) > > So yes, goes back pretty far. Oh, wow. :-) There was a similar bug report for "sudo" the other week where the conclusion was "well, just use -i" (because then $HOME would be set correctly). Does this mean that su and sudo behaves differently in Emacs in this area? Let's see... sudo -i: root@sandy:~# echo $HOME /root (user-real-login-name) "root" sudo bash: root@sandy:~# echo $HOME /home/larsi (user-real-login-name) "root" [larsi@stories ~]$ su Password: root@stories:/home/larsi# echo $HOME /root (user-real-login-name) "root" Uhm... So when I su on this machine, I'm not getting /home/larsi/.emacs? This is kinda confusing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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>> BTW, thinking about "dangerous" above, I guess the behavior might make
>> sense when you're `su`ing *from* root rather than the other way around.
> By default, /root on many systems isn't readable by anybody but root, so
> I don't think it makes much sense in any situation...
Good point.
> I think Emacs shouldn't do this at all. When was this introduced, and
> what was the reasoning behind it?
The Texinfo says:
[...]
@xref{Entering Emacs,,, emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}. If neither
option is specified, Emacs uses the @env{LOGNAME} environment
variable, or the @env{USER} (most systems) or @env{USERNAME} (MS
systems) variable, to find your home directory and thus your init
file; this way, even if you have su'd, Emacs still loads your own init
file. If those environment variables are absent, though, Emacs uses
your user-id to find your home directory.
and it's at least as old as 2007 probably long before.
I still haven't found the corresponding code, so I can't confirm
the origin.
[...hhhmmm...] Ha! Found it!
commit a726e0d12ccb1c49ca1f3e1fbe64addea9b7d3b4
Author: Jim Blandy <jimb@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu Jul 11 23:17:40 1991 +0000
Initial revision
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
--- /dev/null
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -0,0 +160,6 @@
+ ;; Figure out which user's init file to load,
+ ;; either from the environment or from the options.
+ (setq init-file-user (if noninteractive nil (user-login-name)))
+ ;; If user has not done su, use current $HOME to find .emacs.
+ (and init-file-user (string= init-file-user (user-real-login-name))
+ (setq init-file-user ""))
So yes, goes back pretty far.
Stefan
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> This is explicitly documented in the manual.
> "How Emacs Finds Your Init File".
FWIW, I find this behavior very surprising (and dangerous).
Apparently you can circumvent it by setting LOGNAME to "root".
I can't find the place in code which distinguishes this case from the
case where the user doesn't `su` but instead sets his $HOME to some
other place, such as:
HOME=/home/monnier/tmp/home emacs
BTW, thinking about "dangerous" above, I guess the behavior might make
sense when you're `su`ing *from* root rather than the other way around.
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This is explicitly documented in the manual.
"How Emacs Finds Your Init File".
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2019 20:23:44 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 10 16:23:44 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36674 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hlJ7w-0007A6-5Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:23:44 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:38663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sb@HIDDEN>) id 1hlJ7u-00079x-7Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:23:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from <sb@HIDDEN>) id 1hlJ7s-0001yJ-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:23:42 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <sb@HIDDEN>) id 1hlJ7q-0003BS-AK for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:23:40 -0400 Received: from cadalora.default.sbang.uk0.bigv.io ([46.43.15.90]:54952 helo=cadalora.bang.priv.no) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <sb@HIDDEN>) id 1hlJ7n-0002d8-Ka for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:23:36 -0400 Received: from lorenzo (cm-84.212.50.160.getinternet.no [84.212.50.160]) by cadalora.bang.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E536FCDF2E for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:23:14 +0100 (BST) From: Steinar Bang <sb@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 26.1; emacs 26 tries loading original user's .emacs after su to root Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:20:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87ims94p6p.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 46.43.15.90 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) debian 10 "buster", amd64 GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.4) of 2019-= 02-03, modified by Debian - I did /bin/su from my own user to root - When I started emacs I got the following error message: Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading =E2=80=98/home/s= b/.emacs=E2=80=99: File is missing: Cannot open load file, No such file or directory, editorco= nfig To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the cause of the error in your initialization file. Start Emacs with the =E2=80=98--debug-init=E2=80=99 option to view a complete error backtrac= e. - Ie. emacs tried to load the original user's .emacs and fails (and the configuration of the editor is kind of broken) Results of HOME and id after su: root@cadalora:~# env | grep HOME HOME=3D/root root@cadalora:~# id uid=3D0(root) gid=3D0(root) groups=3D0(root) root@cadalora:~# - When I do "/bin/su - root" then emacs reports no error messages on startup Results of HOME and id looks the same: root@cadalora:~# env | grep HOME HOME=3D/root root@cadalora:~# id uid=3D0(root) gid=3D0(root) groups=3D0(root) root@cadalora:~#
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