Received: (at 36594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2019 20:41:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 16:41:24 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hm2M7-0004ga-Ns for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:41:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52325) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hm2M6-0004gP-Mk for 36594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:41:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48508) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hm2M1-0002Zg-0U; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:41:17 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=53172 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hm2M0-0004om-KY; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:41:16 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36594: No hint for missing argument References: <C500F9C2-AEBB-4FE7-A826-A4A75E280031@HIDDEN> <87v9w8pan9.fsf@HIDDEN> <20190711234519.10ba7cfb@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 24 Messidor an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 22:41:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190711234519.10ba7cfb@HIDDEN> (Julien Lepiller's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:45:19 +0200") Message-ID: <871ryvf0k4.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36594 Cc: 36594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> skribis: > Le Thu, 11 Jul 2019 22:40:58 +0200, > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit : [...] >> Currently it says: >>=20 >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> $ guix build --help | grep -e -verbo >> -v, --verbosity=3DLEVEL use the given verbosity LEVEL >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >>=20 >> We could add =E2=80=9Can integer between 0 and 2=E2=80=9D, but this was = left >> non-explicit in case we eventually extend it to -7 to +42. >>=20 >> Maybe there=E2=80=99s a limit on what we can do to help users? :-) >>=20 >> Ludo=E2=80=99. > > If users have no idea what value to use though, they just won't use the > feature... What about: use the given verbosity LEVEL, an integer ? If that=E2=80=99s fine with you, please push! Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Full text available.Received: (at 36594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2019 21:45:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 11 17:45:35 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hlgsh-0002pk-BO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:45:35 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:34680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <julien@HIDDEN>) id 1hlgsd-0002pX-1E for 36594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:45:31 -0400 Received: from sybil.lepiller.eu (89-92-10-229.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr [89.92.10.229]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id aef509d6 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:45:19 +0200 From: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36594: No hint for missing argument Message-ID: <20190711234519.10ba7cfb@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87v9w8pan9.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <C500F9C2-AEBB-4FE7-A826-A4A75E280031@HIDDEN> <87v9w8pan9.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36594 Cc: 36594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Le Thu, 11 Jul 2019 22:40:58 +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit : > Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> skribis: >=20 > > When you type an option that requires an argument, but don't > > provide one, you get an error message that says there is a missing > > argument. There should brobably be a hint on what values are > > acceptable. For instance, there is no way to know from "guix > > package -v" or "guix package --help" what values are accepted. In > > other cases, there is a --list-something option. > > > > Maybe -v is the only case where it would be useful to do something, > > because you could guess its existence and not use a verbosity > > level. Maybe fixing the help message to say --verbosity=3D[0-5] is > > enough? =20 >=20 > Currently it says: >=20 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > $ guix build --help | grep -e -verbo > -v, --verbosity=3DLEVEL use the given verbosity LEVEL > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >=20 > We could add =E2=80=9Can integer between 0 and 2=E2=80=9D, but this was l= eft > non-explicit in case we eventually extend it to -7 to +42. >=20 > Maybe there=E2=80=99s a limit on what we can do to help users? :-) >=20 > Ludo=E2=80=99. If users have no idea what value to use though, they just won't use the feature...
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Full text available.Received: (at 36594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2019 20:41:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 11 16:41:07 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38837 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hlfsJ-0007Pb-0f for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:41:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53289) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hlfsI-0007PA-8A for 36594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:41:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hlfsC-0000Cr-Hh; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:41:00 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=51396 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1hlfsC-0002H8-4m; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:41:00 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#36594: No hint for missing argument References: <C500F9C2-AEBB-4FE7-A826-A4A75E280031@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 23 Messidor an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 22:40:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <C500F9C2-AEBB-4FE7-A826-A4A75E280031@HIDDEN> (Julien Lepiller's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:49:45 +0200") Message-ID: <87v9w8pan9.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36594 Cc: 36594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> skribis: > When you type an option that requires an argument, but don't provide one,= you get an error message that says there is a missing argument. There shou= ld brobably be a hint on what values are acceptable. For instance, there is= no way to know from "guix package -v" or "guix package --help" what values= are accepted. In other cases, there is a --list-something option. > > Maybe -v is the only case where it would be useful to do something, becau= se you could guess its existence and not use a verbosity level. Maybe fixin= g the help message to say --verbosity=3D[0-5] is enough? Currently it says: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix build --help | grep -e -verbo -v, --verbosity=3DLEVEL use the given verbosity LEVEL --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- We could add =E2=80=9Can integer between 0 and 2=E2=80=9D, but this was left non-explicit in case we eventually extend it to -7 to +42. Maybe there=E2=80=99s a limit on what we can do to help users? :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: When you type an option that requires an argument, but don't provide one, you get an error message that says there is a missing argument. There should brobably be a hint on what values are acceptable. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [23.129.64.181 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see <https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?23.129.64.181>] -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager When you type an option that requires an argument, but don't provide one, y= ou get an error message that says there is a missing argument=2E There shou= ld brobably be a hint on what values are acceptable=2E For instance, there = is no way to know from "guix package -v" or "guix package --help" what valu= es are accepted=2E In other cases, there is a --list-something option=2E Maybe -v is the only case where it would be useful to do something, becaus= e you could guess its existence and not use a verbosity level=2E Maybe fixi= ng the help message to say --verbosity=3D[0-5] is enough?
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