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Hi Guix!
I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!
As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used
guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I
had ;)) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once
you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope
using this list for this post is not inappropriate.
I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would
also welcome help on those!
So, here is the list of issues I had.
1. An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this
secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot. As I understand it
the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not
boot (while other live CDs did). This may sound obvious, except for
people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it
would be worth writing this in the installation instructions?
2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;
consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different
packages, which took ages.
After a while, I understood that
- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why?
Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do
# GUIX_PROFILE="/home/matthieu/.guix-profile"
# . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"
So my question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc uses the newest
guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?
- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm is very different from
sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm.
This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,
but I fell into the trap.
- guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at a
very late stage. Maybe this command should issue a warning when not
run with root rights?
3. At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe
I shut down my laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every
package I had installed with guix package -i.
4. I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system
with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain
any terminal emulator.
5. I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do
not display properly (e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick
"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit). So
I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat.
6. I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package
to start X sessions manually. But it seems that startx/xinit looks for
a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on
guix.
7. nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection: (1) Not authorized to control networking.
I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wifi and wired)
8. Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which
packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for
instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is
located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I
wanted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for
guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in
your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would install
the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install
the right package in Guix.
9. nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden
sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary). The error I get is
failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon
'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita
so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install
gnome-icon-theme with no luck.
10. My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the
problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous
system configuration, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a
"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which
freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same
times, it hangs). My work-around is to switch to the console and wait
that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not
ideal...
11. Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by
booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to
fix my OS but could not do on guix... Which scares me a bit because I
fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken. Is there
an easy way to do that in guix?
12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will
erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used
the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one
partition, and this was a bit scary.
Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I did not write about everything
that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!
By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less
problems to solve in the future!
Thanks,
Matthieu
PS: here is my config.scm file
;; This is an operating system configuration generated
;; by the graphical installer.
(use-modules (gnu))
(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)
(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))
(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove
(operating-system
(locale "en_US.utf8")
(timezone "Europe/Paris")
(keyboard-layout
(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))
(kernel linux)
(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))
(bootloader
(bootloader-configuration
(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)
(target "/boot/efi")
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))
(file-systems
(cons* (file-system
(mount-point "/")
(device
(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"
'ext4))
(type "ext4"))
(file-system
(mount-point "/boot/efi")
(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))
(type "vfat"))
%base-file-systems))
(host-name "x1")
(users (cons* (user-account
(name "matthieu")
(comment "Matthieu")
(group "users")
(home-directory "/home/matthieu")
(supplementary-groups
'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))
%base-user-accounts))
(packages
(append
(list (specification->package "xmonad")
(specification->package "awesome")
(specification->package "dmenu")
(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment
(specification->package "nss-certs"))
%base-packages))
(services
(append
(list (service openssh-service-type)
(set-xorg-configuration
(xorg-configuration
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))
(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration
(display ":0")
(vt "vt6")))
)
(remove (lambda (service)
(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type))
%desktop-services
))))
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Guix!<br><br>I have just installed (succ=
essfully?) my first guix system!<br><br>As a newcomer (I know system admini=
stration quite well, but never used<br>guix before) I thought that I could =
share my experience (i.e. issues I<br>had ;)) installing Guix. Probably som=
e of the issues are obvious once<br>you know Guix well, but they aren't whe=
n, like me, you don't. I hope<br>using this list for this post is not inapp=
ropriate.<br><br>I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so=
I would<br>also welcome help on those! <br><br>So, here is the list of iss=
ues I had.<br><br>1. An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desact=
ive this<br>secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot. As I understan=
d it<br>the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did n=
ot<br>boot (while other live CDs did). This may sound obvious, except for<b=
r>people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it<br>w=
ould be worth writing this in the installation instructions?<br><br>2. I ha=
d a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;<br>consequently I thin=
k I installed a lot of versions of different<br>packages, which took ages.<=
br><br>After a while, I understood that<br><br> - guix pull creates a =
new profile, but is not used by default: why?<br> Similarly, gu=
ix kept telling me that I should do<br><br># GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu=
/.guix-profile"<br># . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"<br><br> So m=
y question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc uses the newest<br>  =
; guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?<br><br> =
- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm is very different from<br>&n=
bsp; sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm.<br><br> &=
nbsp; This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,<b=
r> but I fell into the trap.<br><br> - guix system reconfi=
gure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at a<br> very late st=
age. Maybe this command should issue a warning when not<br> run=
with root rights?<br><br><br>3. At one time it seems that my entire user p=
rofile disappeared (maybe<br>I shut down my laptop at a wrong time). I had =
to reinstall every<br>package I had installed with guix package -i.<br><br>=
4. I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system<br>w=
ith a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain<br>any=
terminal emulator.<br><br>5. I installed Icecat but I am missing some font=
s: some websites do<br>not display properly (e.g. numbers do not show up), =
even if I untick<br>"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves thi=
ngs a bit). So<br>I believe some more font package should be installed with=
icecat.<br><br>6. I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xi=
nit package<br>to start X sessions manually. But it seems that startx/xinit=
looks for<br>a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won'=
t work on<br>guix.<br><br>7. nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to ad=
d/activate connection: (1) Not authorized to control networking.<br> &=
nbsp; I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wi=
fi and wired)<br><br>8. Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to k=
now in which<br> packages a file would be located? This would b=
e very useful, for<br> instance I had trouble finding where the=
latex executable is<br> located, or ghc complaining about find=
ing linux/errno.h when I<br> wanted to install xmonad. The prob=
lem is even more important for<br> guix, as in other systems th=
e dependencies eventually show up in<br> your profile (e.g. ins=
talling texlive-latex-beamer would install<br> the latex binary=
), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install<br> the righ=
t package in Guix.<br><br>9. nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so =
it uses a "forbidden<br>sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary). The e=
rror I get is<br><br> failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": I=
con<br> 'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita<br><br>=
so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install<br> gnome=
-icon-theme with no luck.<br><br>10. My latest problem happened when I trie=
d to install slim (but the<br>problem remains when I switch back to gdm or =
tried to use a previous<br>system configuration, which surprised me). Now w=
hen I boot, I have a<br>"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to lo=
g 505 times, which<br>freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it =
at the same<br>times, it hangs). My work-around is to switch to the console=
and wait<br>that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not<=
br>ideal...<br><br>11. Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the p=
roblem by<br>booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often u=
sed to<br>fix my OS but could not do on guix... Which scares me a bit becau=
se I<br>fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken. Is ther=
e<br>an easy way to do that in guix?<br><br>12. I also remember that the in=
staller said something like "I will<br>erase the whole disk and you would l=
oose all your data", while I used<br>the manual partitionning scheme and as=
ked to format only one<br>partition, and this was a bit scary.<br><br>Wow, =
that was a long list. Obviously I did not write about everything<br>that we=
nt well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!<br>By postin=
g this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less<br>problems to=
solve in the future!<br><br>Thanks,<br>Matthieu<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></=
div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div=
><div>PS: here is my config.scm file<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br=
data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>;; This is an operating system configurati=
on generated<br>;; by the graphical installer.<br><br>(use-modules (gnu))<b=
r>(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)<br>(use-modules (nongnu=
packages linux))<br>(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove<br><br>(opera=
ting-system<br> (locale "en_US.utf8")<br> (timezone "Europe/Par=
is")<br> (keyboard-layout<br> (keyboard-layout "us"=
"altgr-intl"))<br> (kernel linux)<br> (firmware (cons* iwlwifi=
-firmware %base-firmware))<br> (bootloader<br> (boo=
tloader-configuration<br> (bootloader grub-ef=
i-bootloader)<br> (target "/boot/efi")<br>&nb=
sp; (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))<br> (=
file-systems<br> (cons* (file-system<br>  =
; (mount-point "/")<b=
r> =
(device<br> &nbs=
p; (uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"<br> =
&nb=
sp; 'ext4))<br> =
(type "ext4"))<br> &n=
bsp; (file-system<br> =
(mount-p=
oint "/boot/efi")<br> =
(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))<br> =
(type "vfat"))<br>&n=
bsp; %base-file-syste=
ms))<br> (host-name "x1")<br> (users (cons* (user-account<br>&n=
bsp;  =
; (name "matthieu")<br> &nbs=
p; =
(comment "Matthieu")<br> &nb=
sp; (group "users")<br>&nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; (home-directory "/home/matthieu")<br> &n=
bsp;  =
; (supplementary-groups<br> =
&nb=
sp; '("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))<br> =
%base-user-acc=
ounts))<br> (packages<br> (append<br> &n=
bsp; (list (specification->package "xmonad")<br> =
(specification->p=
ackage "awesome")<br> =
(specification->package "dmenu")<br> &nbs=
p; (specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adj=
ustment<br> &nbs=
p; (specification->package "nss-certs"))<br> &nbs=
p; %base-packages))<br> (services<br> (append<br>&n=
bsp; (list (service openssh-service-type)<br><br> &n=
bsp; (set-xorg-configuratio=
n<br> (xorg-configuration<br> &nb=
sp; (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))<br><=
br> (service slim-service-type (slim-c=
onfiguration<br> &n=
bsp; (display ":0")<br> &n=
bsp; (=
vt "vt6")))<br><br>)<br><br> (remove (lambda (servi=
ce)<br> (eq? (servic=
e-kind service) gdm-service-type))<br><br><br> &nbs=
p; %desktop-services<br><br> &nbs=
p; ))))<br><br><br data-m=
ce-bogus=3D"1"></div></div></body></html>
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(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate)=20
I now have two additional issues:=20
13. My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work anymor=
e (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format"). I realize t=
hat my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied.=20
Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades supposed =
to be atomic?=20
14. Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the "discrete ca=
rd", which uses more power. My laptop uses an hyprid intel/nvidia configura=
tion, is this supported by guix?=20
Thanks,=20
Matthieu=20
De: "racin" <racin@HIDDEN>=20
=C3=80: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@HIDDEN>=20
Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37=20
Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues=20
Hi Guix!=20
I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!=20
As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used=20
guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I=20
had ;)) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once=20
you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope=20
using this list for this post is not inappropriate.=20
I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would=20
also welcome help on those!=20
So, here is the list of issues I had.=20
1. An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this=20
secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot. As I understand it=20
the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not=20
boot (while other live CDs did). This may sound obvious, except for=20
people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it=20
would be worth writing this in the installation instructions?=20
2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;=20
consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different=20
packages, which took ages.=20
After a while, I understood that=20
- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why?=20
Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do=20
# GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/.guix-profile"=20
# . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"=20
So my question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc uses the newest=20
guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?=20
- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm is very different from=20
sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm.=20
This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,=20
but I fell into the trap.=20
- guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at a=20
very late stage. Maybe this command should issue a warning when not=20
run with root rights?=20
3. At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe=20
I shut down my laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every=20
package I had installed with guix package -i.=20
4. I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system=20
with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain=20
any terminal emulator.=20
5. I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do=20
not display properly (e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick=20
"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit). So=20
I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat.=20
6. I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package=20
to start X sessions manually. But it seems that startx/xinit looks for=20
a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on=20
guix.=20
7. nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection: (1)=
Not authorized to control networking.=20
I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wifi and=
wired)=20
8. Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which=20
packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for=20
instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is=20
located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I=20
wanted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for=20
guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in=20
your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would install=20
the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install=20
the right package in Guix.=20
9. nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden=20
sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary). The error I get is=20
failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon=20
'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita=20
so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install=20
gnome-icon-theme with no luck.=20
10. My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the=20
problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous=20
system configuration, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a=20
"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which=20
freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same=20
times, it hangs). My work-around is to switch to the console and wait=20
that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not=20
ideal...=20
11. Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by=20
booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to=20
fix my OS but could not do on guix... Which scares me a bit because I=20
fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken. Is there=20
an easy way to do that in guix?=20
12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will=20
erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used=20
the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one=20
partition, and this was a bit scary.=20
Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I did not write about everything=20
that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!=20
By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less=20
problems to solve in the future!=20
Thanks,=20
Matthieu=20
PS: here is my config.scm file=20
;; This is an operating system configuration generated=20
;; by the graphical installer.=20
(use-modules (gnu))=20
(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)=20
(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))=20
(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove=20
(operating-system=20
(locale "en_US.utf8")=20
(timezone "Europe/Paris")=20
(keyboard-layout=20
(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))=20
(kernel linux)=20
(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))=20
(bootloader=20
(bootloader-configuration=20
(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)=20
(target "/boot/efi")=20
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
(file-systems=20
(cons* (file-system=20
(mount-point "/")=20
(device=20
(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"=20
'ext4))=20
(type "ext4"))=20
(file-system=20
(mount-point "/boot/efi")=20
(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))=20
(type "vfat"))=20
%base-file-systems))=20
(host-name "x1")=20
(users (cons* (user-account=20
(name "matthieu")=20
(comment "Matthieu")=20
(group "users")=20
(home-directory "/home/matthieu")=20
(supplementary-groups=20
'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))=20
%base-user-accounts))=20
(packages=20
(append=20
(list (specification->package "xmonad")=20
(specification->package "awesome")=20
(specification->package "dmenu")=20
(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment=20
(specification->package "nss-certs"))=20
%base-packages))=20
(services=20
(append=20
(list (service openssh-service-type)=20
(set-xorg-configuration=20
(xorg-configuration=20
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration=20
(display ":0")=20
(vt "vt6")))=20
)=20
(remove (lambda (service)=20
(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type))=20
%desktop-services=20
))))=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be mo=
re appropriate)<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I now hav=
e two additional issues:<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bo=
gus=3D"1"></div><div>13. My profile disappeared once again and guix package=
does not work anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest =
format"). I realize that my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied=
. <br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Maybe I had a problem during an upgra=
de, but aren't guix upgrades supposed to be atomic?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"=
></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>14. Also, my X server hangs=
unless I force the BIOS to use the "discrete card", which uses more power.=
My laptop uses an hyprid intel/nvidia configuration, is this supported by =
guix?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><di=
v>Thanks,<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Matthieu<br data-mce-bogus=3D"=
1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr=
" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>De: </b>"=
racin" <racin@HIDDEN><br><b>=C3=80: </b>"bug-guix" <bug-guix@gnu.=
org><br><b>Envoy=C3=A9: </b>Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37<br><b>Obje=
t: </b>Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues<br></di=
v><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"font-family: arial=
, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Guix!<br>=
<br>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!<br><br>As a=
newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used<br>guix =
before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I<br>had ;)=
) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once<br>you know=
Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope<br>using this =
list for this post is not inappropriate.<br><br>I did not find any solution=
for some of the issues yet, so I would<br>also welcome help on those! <br>=
<br>So, here is the list of issues I had.<br><br>1. An easy one: on a new c=
omputer, you now have to desactive this<br>secure boot thingy, else the liv=
e CD won't boot. As I understand it<br>the guix live CD is not "signed", wh=
ich was the reason why it did not<br>boot (while other live CDs did). This =
may sound obvious, except for<br>people whose previous computer was still u=
sing the BIOS; so maybe it<br>would be worth writing this in the installati=
on instructions?<br><br>2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile=
worked;<br>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different=
<br>packages, which took ages.<br><br>After a while, I understood that<br><=
br> - guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why=
?<br> Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do<br><br>#=
GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/.guix-profile"<br># . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/pr=
ofile"<br><br> So my question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc=
uses the newest<br> guix command from guix pull, and contain t=
hese lines above?<br><br> - sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.s=
cm is very different from<br> sudo su; guix system reconfigure =
/etc/config.scm.<br><br> This is written explicitly in the docu=
mentation, so that was clear,<br> but I fell into the trap.<br>=
<br> - guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at=
a<br> very late stage. Maybe this command should issue a warni=
ng when not<br> run with root rights?<br><br><br>3. At one time=
it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe<br>I shut down my =
laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every<br>package I had installe=
d with guix package -i.<br><br>4. I followed the initial exemple configurat=
ion of "A graphical system<br>with a choice of lightweight window managers"=
, but it did not contain<br>any terminal emulator.<br><br>5. I installed Ic=
ecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do<br>not display properly =
(e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick<br>"do not load custom font=
s" (unticking this improves things a bit). So<br>I believe some more font p=
ackage should be installed with icecat.<br><br>6. I had issues with gdm and=
lightdm, so I installed the xinit package<br>to start X sessions manually.=
But it seems that startx/xinit looks for<br>a X server in the same path th=
an the xinit binary, which won't work on<br>guix.<br><br>7. nm-applet fails=
with this warning Failed to add/activate connection: (1) Not authorized to=
control networking.<br> I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it=
working (but it works well, wifi and wired)<br><br>8. Is there an equivale=
nt to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which<br> packages a file=
would be located? This would be very useful, for<br> instance =
I had trouble finding where the latex executable is<br> located=
, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I<br> wan=
ted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for<br> &nbs=
p; guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in<br>&nbs=
p; your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would install<b=
r> the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely i=
nstall<br> the right package in Guix.<br><br>9. nm-applet canno=
t find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden<br>sign" icon everywher=
e (which is a bit scary). The error I get is<br><br> failed to load ic=
on "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon<br> 'nm-stage03-connecting11' not p=
resent in theme Adwaita<br><br> so I guess some icon are missing; I t=
ried to install<br> gnome-icon-theme with no luck.<br><br>10. My late=
st problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the<br>problem remain=
s when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous<br>system configurat=
ion, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a<br>"gdm" user that was =
created and which attemps to log 505 times, which<br>freezes my computer fo=
r 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same<br>times, it hangs). My work-aro=
und is to switch to the console and wait<br>that all these unsuccessful con=
nection stops, but this is not<br>ideal...<br><br>11. Before I found this w=
ork-around I tried to fix the problem by<br>booting + chrooting from anothe=
r OS, a solution I have often used to<br>fix my OS but could not do on guix=
... Which scares me a bit because I<br>fill that I have no easy way to fix =
my OS if it was broken. Is there<br>an easy way to do that in guix?<br><br>=
12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will<br>erase=
the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used<br>the man=
ual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one<br>partition, and thi=
s was a bit scary.<br><br>Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I did not wr=
ite about everything<br>that went well during the installation, so thanks f=
or your hard work!<br>By posting this, I just hope that it will help new us=
ers to have less<br>problems to solve in the future!<br><br>Thanks,<br>Matt=
hieu<br></div><br><br><div>PS: here is my config.scm file<br></div><br><div=
>;; This is an operating system configuration generated<br>;; by the graphi=
cal installer.<br><br>(use-modules (gnu))<br>(use-service-modules desktop n=
etworking ssh xorg)<br>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))<br>(use-module=
s (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove<br><br>(operating-system<br> (locale "e=
n_US.utf8")<br> (timezone "Europe/Paris")<br> (keyboard-layout<=
br> (keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))<br> (kerne=
l linux)<br> (firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))<br>&n=
bsp; (bootloader<br> (bootloader-configuration<br> &=
nbsp; (bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)<br> &nb=
sp; (target "/boot/efi")<br> (key=
board-layout keyboard-layout)))<br> (file-systems<br> &nbs=
p; (cons* (file-system<br> &=
nbsp; (mount-point "/")<br> =
(device<br> &nb=
sp; (uuid "7dd6=
8b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"<br> &n=
bsp;  =
; 'ext4))<br> &n=
bsp; (type "ext4"))<br> &nbs=
p; (file-system<br> &n=
bsp; (mount-point "/boot/efi")<br>  =
; (device (uuid=
"90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))<br> &n=
bsp; (type "vfat"))<br> &nbs=
p; %base-file-systems))<br> (host-name "x1")<=
br> (users (cons* (user-account<br> &nbs=
p; (name =
"matthieu")<br> =
(comment "Matthieu")<br> &n=
bsp;  =
; (group "users")<br> =
(home-di=
rectory "/home/matthieu")<br> &nbs=
p; (supplementary-gro=
ups<br> &n=
bsp; '("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "=
video")))<br> &n=
bsp; %base-user-accounts))<br> (packages<br>&=
nbsp; (append<br> (list (specific=
ation->package "xmonad")<br> &n=
bsp; (specification->package "awesome")<br>  =
; (specification->=
package "dmenu")<br> (specification-&g=
t;package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment<br> &nb=
sp; (specification->package "n=
ss-certs"))<br> %base-packages))<br> (s=
ervices<br> (append<br> (list (se=
rvice openssh-service-type)<br><br> &nbs=
p; (set-xorg-configuration<br> &n=
bsp; (xorg-configuration<br> &nbs=
p; (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))<br><br> &nbs=
p; (service slim-service-type (slim-configuration<br> &nbs=
p; &nb=
sp; (display ":0")<br> &nb=
sp; (vt "vt6")))<br><br>)<br><br>&nbs=
p; (remove (lambda (service)<br> =
(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type=
))<br><br><br> %desktop-services=
<br><br> &nbs=
p; ))))</div></div><br></div></div></body></html>
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Le 12 juillet 2019 11:04:00 GMT+02:00, racin@free=2Efr a =C3=A9crit :
>(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate)=20
>
>I now have two additional issues:=20
>
>13=2E My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work
>anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format")=2E I
>realize that my =2Eguix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied=2E=20
>Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades
>supposed to be atomic?=20
>
>14=2E Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the
>"discrete card", which uses more power=2E My laptop uses an hyprid
>intel/nvidia configuration, is this supported by guix?=20
>
>Thanks,=20
>Matthieu=20
>
>
>
>De: "racin" <racin@free=2Efr>=20
>=C3=80: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@gnu=2Eorg>=20
>Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37=20
>Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues=20
>
>Hi Guix!=20
>
>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!=20
>
>As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used=20
>guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i=2Ee=2E issues =
I=20
>had ;)) installing Guix=2E Probably some of the issues are obvious once=
=20
>you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't=2E I hope=20
>using this list for this post is not inappropriate=2E=20
>
>I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would=20
>also welcome help on those!=20
>
>So, here is the list of issues I had=2E=20
>
>1=2E An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this=20
>secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot=2E As I understand it=20
>the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not=20
>boot (while other live CDs did)=2E This may sound obvious, except for=20
>people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it=20
>would be worth writing this in the installation instructions?=20
>
>2=2E I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;=20
>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different=20
>packages, which took ages=2E=20
>
>After a while, I understood that=20
>
>- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why?=20
>Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do=20
>
># GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/=2Eguix-profile"=20
># =2E "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"=20
>
>So my question is: shouldn't the default =2Ebashrc uses the newest=20
>guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?=20
>
>- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm is very different from=
=20
>sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm=2E=20
>
>This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,=20
>but I fell into the trap=2E=20
>
>- guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm (without sudo) fails at a=20
>very late stage=2E Maybe this command should issue a warning when not=20
>run with root rights?=20
>
>
>3=2E At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe=
=20
>I shut down my laptop at a wrong time)=2E I had to reinstall every=20
>package I had installed with guix package -i=2E=20
>
>4=2E I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system=
=20
>with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain=20
>any terminal emulator=2E=20
>
>5=2E I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do=20
>not display properly (e=2Eg=2E numbers do not show up), even if I untick=
=20
>"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit)=2E So=
=20
>I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat=2E=20
>
>6=2E I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package=
=20
>to start X sessions manually=2E But it seems that startx/xinit looks for=
=20
>a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on=20
>guix=2E=20
>
>7=2E nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection:
>(1) Not authorized to control networking=2E=20
>I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wifi
>and wired)=20
>
>8=2E Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e=2Eg=2E a way to know in which=
=20
>packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for=20
>instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is=20
>located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno=2Eh when I=20
>wanted to install xmonad=2E The problem is even more important for=20
>guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in=20
>your profile (e=2Eg=2E installing texlive-latex-beamer would install=20
>the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install=20
>the right package in Guix=2E=20
>
>9=2E nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden=
=20
>sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary)=2E The error I get is=20
>
>failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon=20
>'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita=20
>
>so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install=20
>gnome-icon-theme with no luck=2E=20
>
>10=2E My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the=20
>problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous=20
>system configuration, which surprised me)=2E Now when I boot, I have a=20
>"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which=20
>freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same=20
>times, it hangs)=2E My work-around is to switch to the console and wait=
=20
>that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not=20
>ideal=2E=2E=2E=20
>
>11=2E Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by=20
>booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to=20
>fix my OS but could not do on guix=2E=2E=2E Which scares me a bit because=
I=20
>fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken=2E Is there=20
>an easy way to do that in guix?=20
>
>12=2E I also remember that the installer said something like "I will=20
>erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used=20
>the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one=20
>partition, and this was a bit scary=2E=20
>
>Wow, that was a long list=2E Obviously I did not write about everything=
=20
>that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!=20
>By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less=20
>problems to solve in the future!=20
>
>Thanks,=20
>Matthieu=20
>
>
>PS: here is my config=2Escm file=20
>
>;; This is an operating system configuration generated=20
>;; by the graphical installer=2E=20
>
>(use-modules (gnu))=20
>(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)=20
>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))=20
>(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove=20
>
>(operating-system=20
>(locale "en_US=2Eutf8")=20
>(timezone "Europe/Paris")=20
>(keyboard-layout=20
>(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))=20
>(kernel linux)=20
>(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))=20
>(bootloader=20
>(bootloader-configuration=20
>(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)=20
>(target "/boot/efi")=20
>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
>(file-systems=20
>(cons* (file-system=20
>(mount-point "/")=20
>(device=20
>(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"=20
>'ext4))=20
>(type "ext4"))=20
>(file-system=20
>(mount-point "/boot/efi")=20
>(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))=20
>(type "vfat"))=20
>%base-file-systems))=20
>(host-name "x1")=20
>(users (cons* (user-account=20
>(name "matthieu")=20
>(comment "Matthieu")=20
>(group "users")=20
>(home-directory "/home/matthieu")=20
>(supplementary-groups=20
>'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))=20
>%base-user-accounts))=20
>(packages=20
>(append=20
>(list (specification->package "xmonad")=20
>(specification->package "awesome")=20
>(specification->package "dmenu")=20
>(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment=20
>(specification->package "nss-certs"))=20
>%base-packages))=20
>(services=20
>(append=20
>(list (service openssh-service-type)=20
>
>(set-xorg-configuration=20
>(xorg-configuration=20
>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
>
>(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration=20
>(display ":0")=20
>(vt "vt6")))=20
>
>)=20
>
>(remove (lambda (service)=20
>(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type))=20
>
>
>%desktop-services=20
>
>))))=20
Before you change anything, can you post your =2Eguix-profile/manifest fil=
e? Maybe it will help us understand what's going on on your side=2E You're =
actually the second user we hear that from, but we thought they might have =
tried to install things in parallel=2E It could explain some of your sympto=
ms too, but not the manifest issue=2E
Whenever guix started acting crazy for me, it was because of a disk failur=
e or corruption=2E You should probably try to run fsck on your root partiti=
on=2E
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Le 12 juillet 2019 11:04:00 GMT+02:00, racin@free=2Efr a =C3=A9crit :
>(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate)=20
>
>I now have two additional issues:=20
>
>13=2E My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work
>anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format")=2E I
>realize that my =2Eguix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied=2E=20
>Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades
>supposed to be atomic?=20
>
>14=2E Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the
>"discrete card", which uses more power=2E My laptop uses an hyprid
>intel/nvidia configuration, is this supported by guix?=20
>
>Thanks,=20
>Matthieu=20
>
>
>
>De: "racin" <racin@free=2Efr>=20
>=C3=80: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@gnu=2Eorg>=20
>Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37=20
>Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues=20
>
>Hi Guix!=20
>
>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!=20
>
>As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used=20
>guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i=2Ee=2E issues =
I=20
>had ;)) installing Guix=2E Probably some of the issues are obvious once=
=20
>you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't=2E I hope=20
>using this list for this post is not inappropriate=2E=20
>
>I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would=20
>also welcome help on those!=20
>
>So, here is the list of issues I had=2E=20
>
>1=2E An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this=20
>secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot=2E As I understand it=20
>the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not=20
>boot (while other live CDs did)=2E This may sound obvious, except for=20
>people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it=20
>would be worth writing this in the installation instructions?=20
>
>2=2E I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;=20
>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different=20
>packages, which took ages=2E=20
>
>After a while, I understood that=20
>
>- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why?=20
>Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do=20
>
># GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/=2Eguix-profile"=20
># =2E "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"=20
>
>So my question is: shouldn't the default =2Ebashrc uses the newest=20
>guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?=20
>
>- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm is very different from=
=20
>sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm=2E=20
>
>This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,=20
>but I fell into the trap=2E=20
>
>- guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm (without sudo) fails at a=20
>very late stage=2E Maybe this command should issue a warning when not=20
>run with root rights?=20
>
>
>3=2E At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe=
=20
>I shut down my laptop at a wrong time)=2E I had to reinstall every=20
>package I had installed with guix package -i=2E=20
>
>4=2E I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system=
=20
>with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain=20
>any terminal emulator=2E=20
>
>5=2E I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do=20
>not display properly (e=2Eg=2E numbers do not show up), even if I untick=
=20
>"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit)=2E So=
=20
>I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat=2E=20
>
>6=2E I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package=
=20
>to start X sessions manually=2E But it seems that startx/xinit looks for=
=20
>a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on=20
>guix=2E=20
>
>7=2E nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection:
>(1) Not authorized to control networking=2E=20
>I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wifi
>and wired)=20
>
>8=2E Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e=2Eg=2E a way to know in which=
=20
>packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for=20
>instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is=20
>located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno=2Eh when I=20
>wanted to install xmonad=2E The problem is even more important for=20
>guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in=20
>your profile (e=2Eg=2E installing texlive-latex-beamer would install=20
>the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install=20
>the right package in Guix=2E=20
>
>9=2E nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden=
=20
>sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary)=2E The error I get is=20
>
>failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon=20
>'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita=20
>
>so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install=20
>gnome-icon-theme with no luck=2E=20
>
>10=2E My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the=20
>problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous=20
>system configuration, which surprised me)=2E Now when I boot, I have a=20
>"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which=20
>freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same=20
>times, it hangs)=2E My work-around is to switch to the console and wait=
=20
>that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not=20
>ideal=2E=2E=2E=20
>
>11=2E Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by=20
>booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to=20
>fix my OS but could not do on guix=2E=2E=2E Which scares me a bit because=
I=20
>fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken=2E Is there=20
>an easy way to do that in guix?=20
>
>12=2E I also remember that the installer said something like "I will=20
>erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used=20
>the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one=20
>partition, and this was a bit scary=2E=20
>
>Wow, that was a long list=2E Obviously I did not write about everything=
=20
>that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!=20
>By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less=20
>problems to solve in the future!=20
>
>Thanks,=20
>Matthieu=20
>
>
>PS: here is my config=2Escm file=20
>
>;; This is an operating system configuration generated=20
>;; by the graphical installer=2E=20
>
>(use-modules (gnu))=20
>(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)=20
>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))=20
>(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove=20
>
>(operating-system=20
>(locale "en_US=2Eutf8")=20
>(timezone "Europe/Paris")=20
>(keyboard-layout=20
>(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))=20
>(kernel linux)=20
>(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))=20
>(bootloader=20
>(bootloader-configuration=20
>(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)=20
>(target "/boot/efi")=20
>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
>(file-systems=20
>(cons* (file-system=20
>(mount-point "/")=20
>(device=20
>(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"=20
>'ext4))=20
>(type "ext4"))=20
>(file-system=20
>(mount-point "/boot/efi")=20
>(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))=20
>(type "vfat"))=20
>%base-file-systems))=20
>(host-name "x1")=20
>(users (cons* (user-account=20
>(name "matthieu")=20
>(comment "Matthieu")=20
>(group "users")=20
>(home-directory "/home/matthieu")=20
>(supplementary-groups=20
>'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))=20
>%base-user-accounts))=20
>(packages=20
>(append=20
>(list (specification->package "xmonad")=20
>(specification->package "awesome")=20
>(specification->package "dmenu")=20
>(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment=20
>(specification->package "nss-certs"))=20
>%base-packages))=20
>(services=20
>(append=20
>(list (service openssh-service-type)=20
>
>(set-xorg-configuration=20
>(xorg-configuration=20
>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
>
>(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration=20
>(display ":0")=20
>(vt "vt6")))=20
>
>)=20
>
>(remove (lambda (service)=20
>(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type))=20
>
>
>%desktop-services=20
>
>))))=20
Before you change anything, can you post your =2Eguix-profile/manifest fil=
e? Maybe it will help us understand what's going on on your side=2E You're =
actually the second user we hear that from, but we thought they might have =
tried to install things in parallel=2E It could explain some of your sympto=
ms too, but not the manifest issue=2E
Whenever guix started acting crazy for me, it was because of a disk failur=
e or corruption=2E You should probably try to run fsck on your root partiti=
on=2E
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Le 12 juillet 2019 11:29:49 GMT+02:00, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Ee=
u> a =C3=A9crit :
>Le 12 juillet 2019 11:04:00 GMT+02:00, racin@free=2Efr a =C3=A9crit :
>>(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate)=20
>>
>>I now have two additional issues:=20
>>
>>13=2E My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work
>>anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format")=2E
>I
>>realize that my =2Eguix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied=2E=20
>>Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades
>>supposed to be atomic?=20
>>
>>14=2E Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the
>>"discrete card", which uses more power=2E My laptop uses an hyprid
>>intel/nvidia configuration, is this supported by guix?=20
>>
>>Thanks,=20
>>Matthieu=20
>>
>>
>>
>>De: "racin" <racin@free=2Efr>=20
>>=C3=80: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@gnu=2Eorg>=20
>>Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37=20
>>Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues=20
>>
>>Hi Guix!=20
>>
>>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!=20
>>
>>As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used
>
>>guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i=2Ee=2E issues=
I
>
>>had ;)) installing Guix=2E Probably some of the issues are obvious once=
=20
>>you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't=2E I hope=
=20
>>using this list for this post is not inappropriate=2E=20
>>
>>I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would=20
>>also welcome help on those!=20
>>
>>So, here is the list of issues I had=2E=20
>>
>>1=2E An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this=20
>>secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot=2E As I understand it=20
>>the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not=20
>>boot (while other live CDs did)=2E This may sound obvious, except for=20
>>people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it=20
>>would be worth writing this in the installation instructions?=20
>>
>>2=2E I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;=20
>>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different=20
>>packages, which took ages=2E=20
>>
>>After a while, I understood that=20
>>
>>- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why?=20
>>Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do=20
>>
>># GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/=2Eguix-profile"=20
>># =2E "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"=20
>>
>>So my question is: shouldn't the default =2Ebashrc uses the newest=20
>>guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?=20
>>
>>- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm is very different from=
=20
>>sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm=2E=20
>>
>>This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,=20
>>but I fell into the trap=2E=20
>>
>>- guix system reconfigure /etc/config=2Escm (without sudo) fails at a=20
>>very late stage=2E Maybe this command should issue a warning when not=20
>>run with root rights?=20
>>
>>
>>3=2E At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe
>
>>I shut down my laptop at a wrong time)=2E I had to reinstall every=20
>>package I had installed with guix package -i=2E=20
>>
>>4=2E I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system
>
>>with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain=20
>>any terminal emulator=2E=20
>>
>>5=2E I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do=20
>>not display properly (e=2Eg=2E numbers do not show up), even if I untick=
=20
>>"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit)=2E So=
=20
>>I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat=2E=20
>>
>>6=2E I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package
>
>>to start X sessions manually=2E But it seems that startx/xinit looks for
>
>>a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on
>
>>guix=2E=20
>>
>>7=2E nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate
>connection:
>>(1) Not authorized to control networking=2E=20
>>I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well,
>wifi
>>and wired)=20
>>
>>8=2E Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e=2Eg=2E a way to know in which=
=20
>>packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for=20
>>instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is=20
>>located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno=2Eh when I=20
>>wanted to install xmonad=2E The problem is even more important for=20
>>guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in=20
>>your profile (e=2Eg=2E installing texlive-latex-beamer would install=20
>>the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install=20
>>the right package in Guix=2E=20
>>
>>9=2E nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden=
=20
>>sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary)=2E The error I get is=20
>>
>>failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon=20
>>'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita=20
>>
>>so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install=20
>>gnome-icon-theme with no luck=2E=20
>>
>>10=2E My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the=
=20
>>problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous=20
>>system configuration, which surprised me)=2E Now when I boot, I have a=
=20
>>"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which=20
>>freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same=20
>>times, it hangs)=2E My work-around is to switch to the console and wait=
=20
>>that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not=20
>>ideal=2E=2E=2E=20
>>
>>11=2E Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by=20
>>booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to=20
>>fix my OS but could not do on guix=2E=2E=2E Which scares me a bit becaus=
e I=20
>>fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken=2E Is there=
=20
>>an easy way to do that in guix?=20
>>
>>12=2E I also remember that the installer said something like "I will=20
>>erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used=20
>>the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one=20
>>partition, and this was a bit scary=2E=20
>>
>>Wow, that was a long list=2E Obviously I did not write about everything=
=20
>>that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!=20
>>By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less=20
>>problems to solve in the future!=20
>>
>>Thanks,=20
>>Matthieu=20
>>
>>
>>PS: here is my config=2Escm file=20
>>
>>;; This is an operating system configuration generated=20
>>;; by the graphical installer=2E=20
>>
>>(use-modules (gnu))=20
>>(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)=20
>>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))=20
>>(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove=20
>>
>>(operating-system=20
>>(locale "en_US=2Eutf8")=20
>>(timezone "Europe/Paris")=20
>>(keyboard-layout=20
>>(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))=20
>>(kernel linux)=20
>>(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))=20
>>(bootloader=20
>>(bootloader-configuration=20
>>(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)=20
>>(target "/boot/efi")=20
>>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
>>(file-systems=20
>>(cons* (file-system=20
>>(mount-point "/")=20
>>(device=20
>>(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"=20
>>'ext4))=20
>>(type "ext4"))=20
>>(file-system=20
>>(mount-point "/boot/efi")=20
>>(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))=20
>>(type "vfat"))=20
>>%base-file-systems))=20
>>(host-name "x1")=20
>>(users (cons* (user-account=20
>>(name "matthieu")=20
>>(comment "Matthieu")=20
>>(group "users")=20
>>(home-directory "/home/matthieu")=20
>>(supplementary-groups=20
>>'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))=20
>>%base-user-accounts))=20
>>(packages=20
>>(append=20
>>(list (specification->package "xmonad")=20
>>(specification->package "awesome")=20
>>(specification->package "dmenu")=20
>>(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment=20
>>(specification->package "nss-certs"))=20
>>%base-packages))=20
>>(services=20
>>(append=20
>>(list (service openssh-service-type)=20
>>
>>(set-xorg-configuration=20
>>(xorg-configuration=20
>>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
>>
>>(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration=20
>>(display ":0")=20
>>(vt "vt6")))=20
>>
>>)=20
>>
>>(remove (lambda (service)=20
>>(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type))=20
>>
>>
>>%desktop-services=20
>>
>>))))=20
>
>Before you change anything, can you post your =2Eguix-profile/manifest
>file? Maybe it will help us understand what's going on on your side=2E
>You're actually the second user we hear that from, but we thought they
>might have tried to install things in parallel=2E It could explain some
>of your symptoms too, but not the manifest issue=2E
>
>Whenever guix started acting crazy for me, it was because of a disk
>failure or corruption=2E You should probably try to run fsck on your root
>partition=2E
Matthieu if you can read me, note that your email provider (free) rejected=
my email to you with "spam detected"=2E
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Hello=20
(Julien, Sorry I cannot answer to your email as my provider rejected it for=
no reason; I read you through the web archives)=20
I checked: fsck does not report any error. It is posssible that I have trie=
d to install several packages in parallel=20
(I do this all the time with apt, but it uses a lock and issues a warning).=
=20
I checked and actually my manifest in .guix-profile is empty. The other, in=
.config/guix/current, is as follows:=20
(manifest=20
(version 3)=20
(packages=20
(("guix"=20
"f67f93b"=20
"out"=20
"/gnu/store/vz4ri5akjjydgq0x443qcchzhcrxi7cq-guix-f67f93b6d"=20
(propagated-inputs ())=20
(search-paths ())=20
(properties=20
(source=20
(repository=20
(version 0)=20
(url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git")=20
(branch "master")=20
(commit=20
"f67f93b6d60c898c3125068b468c2a339678916a")))))=20
("nonguix"=20
"5ca352e"=20
"out"=20
"/gnu/store/5fwmnl472wm7wynby4b42ympqrc9v2dh-nonguix"=20
(propagated-inputs ())=20
(search-paths ())=20
(properties=20
(source=20
(repository=20
(version 0)=20
(url "https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix")=20
(branch "master")=20
(commit=20
"5ca352ead269e9037c0314140c2fe7854b3fbe2d"))))))))=20
Thanks,=20
Matthieu=20
De: "racin" <racin@HIDDEN>=20
=C3=80: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@HIDDEN>, "help-guix" <help-guix@HIDDEN>=20
Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 11:04:00=20
Objet: Re: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues=20
(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate)=20
I now have two additional issues:=20
13. My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work anymor=
e (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format"). I realize t=
hat my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied.=20
Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades supposed =
to be atomic?=20
14. Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the "discrete ca=
rd", which uses more power. My laptop uses an hyprid intel/nvidia configura=
tion, is this supported by guix?=20
Thanks,=20
Matthieu=20
De: "racin" <racin@HIDDEN>=20
=C3=80: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@HIDDEN>=20
Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37=20
Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues=20
Hi Guix!=20
I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!=20
As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used=20
guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I=20
had ;)) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once=20
you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope=20
using this list for this post is not inappropriate.=20
I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would=20
also welcome help on those!=20
So, here is the list of issues I had.=20
1. An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this=20
secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot. As I understand it=20
the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not=20
boot (while other live CDs did). This may sound obvious, except for=20
people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it=20
would be worth writing this in the installation instructions?=20
2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked;=20
consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different=20
packages, which took ages.=20
After a while, I understood that=20
- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why?=20
Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do=20
# GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/.guix-profile"=20
# . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile"=20
So my question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc uses the newest=20
guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above?=20
- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm is very different from=20
sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm.=20
This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear,=20
but I fell into the trap.=20
- guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at a=20
very late stage. Maybe this command should issue a warning when not=20
run with root rights?=20
3. At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe=20
I shut down my laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every=20
package I had installed with guix package -i.=20
4. I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system=20
with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain=20
any terminal emulator.=20
5. I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do=20
not display properly (e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick=20
"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit). So=20
I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat.=20
6. I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package=20
to start X sessions manually. But it seems that startx/xinit looks for=20
a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on=20
guix.=20
7. nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection: (1)=
Not authorized to control networking.=20
I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wifi and=
wired)=20
8. Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which=20
packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for=20
instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is=20
located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I=20
wanted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for=20
guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in=20
your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would install=20
the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install=20
the right package in Guix.=20
9. nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden=20
sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary). The error I get is=20
failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon=20
'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita=20
so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install=20
gnome-icon-theme with no luck.=20
10. My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the=20
problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous=20
system configuration, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a=20
"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which=20
freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same=20
times, it hangs). My work-around is to switch to the console and wait=20
that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not=20
ideal...=20
11. Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by=20
booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to=20
fix my OS but could not do on guix... Which scares me a bit because I=20
fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken. Is there=20
an easy way to do that in guix?=20
12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will=20
erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used=20
the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one=20
partition, and this was a bit scary.=20
Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I did not write about everything=20
that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work!=20
By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less=20
problems to solve in the future!=20
Thanks,=20
Matthieu=20
PS: here is my config.scm file=20
;; This is an operating system configuration generated=20
;; by the graphical installer.=20
(use-modules (gnu))=20
(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg)=20
(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))=20
(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove=20
(operating-system=20
(locale "en_US.utf8")=20
(timezone "Europe/Paris")=20
(keyboard-layout=20
(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))=20
(kernel linux)=20
(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware))=20
(bootloader=20
(bootloader-configuration=20
(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)=20
(target "/boot/efi")=20
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
(file-systems=20
(cons* (file-system=20
(mount-point "/")=20
(device=20
(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"=20
'ext4))=20
(type "ext4"))=20
(file-system=20
(mount-point "/boot/efi")=20
(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))=20
(type "vfat"))=20
%base-file-systems))=20
(host-name "x1")=20
(users (cons* (user-account=20
(name "matthieu")=20
(comment "Matthieu")=20
(group "users")=20
(home-directory "/home/matthieu")=20
(supplementary-groups=20
'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))=20
%base-user-accounts))=20
(packages=20
(append=20
(list (specification->package "xmonad")=20
(specification->package "awesome")=20
(specification->package "dmenu")=20
(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment=20
(specification->package "nss-certs"))=20
%base-packages))=20
(services=20
(append=20
(list (service openssh-service-type)=20
(set-xorg-configuration=20
(xorg-configuration=20
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))=20
(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration=20
(display ":0")=20
(vt "vt6")))=20
)=20
(remove (lambda (service)=20
(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type))=20
%desktop-services=20
))))=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1=
"></div><div>(Julien, Sorry I cannot answer to your email as my provider re=
jected it for no reason; I read you through the web archives)<br data-mce-b=
ogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I checked: fsck&n=
bsp; does not report any error. It is posssible that I have tried to instal=
l several packages in parallel <br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>(I do th=
is all the time with apt, but it uses a lock and issues a warning).<br data=
-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I checked a=
nd actually my manifest in .guix-profile is empty. The other, in .config/gu=
ix/current, is as follows:<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-=
bogus=3D"1"></div><div>(manifest<br> (version 3)<br> (packages<=
br> (("guix"<br> "f67f93b"<=
br> "out"<br> "=
/gnu/store/vz4ri5akjjydgq0x443qcchzhcrxi7cq-guix-f67f93b6d"<br> =
(propagated-inputs ())<br> =
(search-paths ())<br> (properties<br> &=
nbsp; (source<br> &nbs=
p; (repository<br> &nb=
sp; (version 0)<br> &n=
bsp; (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org=
/git/guix.git")<br> &n=
bsp; (branch "master")<br> &=
nbsp; (commit<br> &nbs=
p; "f67f93b6d60c898c3125068b468c2a33967=
8916a")))))<br> ("nonguix"<br> &nb=
sp; "5ca352e"<br> "out"<br> =
"/gnu/store/5fwmnl472wm7wynby4b42ympqrc9v2dh-nonguix"<br=
> (propagated-inputs ())<br>  =
; (search-paths ())<br> (properti=
es<br> (source<br> &nb=
sp; (repository<br> &n=
bsp; (version 0)<br> &=
nbsp; (url "https://gitlab.=
com/nonguix/nonguix")<br> &n=
bsp; (branch "master")<br> &=
nbsp; (commit<br> &nbs=
p; "5ca352ead269e9037c0314140c2fe=
7854b3fbe2d"))))))))<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div>Thanks,<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Matthieu<br da=
ta-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div=
><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS=
__"><b>De: </b>"racin" <racin@HIDDEN><br><b>=C3=80: </b>"bug-guix" &=
lt;bug-guix@HIDDEN>, "help-guix" <help-guix@HIDDEN><br><b>Envoy=
=C3=A9: </b>Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 11:04:00<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: Installa=
tion of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues<br></div><br><div data=
-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>(Cross-posting to help-guix=
as it may be more appropriate)<br></div><br><div>I now have two additional=
issues:<br></div><br><div>13. My profile disappeared once again and guix p=
ackage does not work anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported man=
ifest format"). I realize that my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been e=
mptied. <br></div><div>Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't =
guix upgrades supposed to be atomic?<br></div><br><div>14. Also, my X serve=
r hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the "discrete card", which uses more=
power. My laptop uses an hyprid intel/nvidia configuration, is this suppor=
ted by guix?<br></div><br><div>Thanks,<br></div><div>Matthieu<br></div><br>=
<br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>De: </b>"racin" <racin@HIDDEN><br><b>=
=C3=80: </b>"bug-guix" <bug-guix@HIDDEN><br><b>Envoy=C3=A9: </b>Vend=
redi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37<br><b>Objet: </b>Installation of a new guix s=
ystem -- summaries of the issues<br></div><br><div><div style=3D"font-famil=
y: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi G=
uix!<br><br>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system!<br>=
<br>As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used<=
br>guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I<b=
r>had ;)) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once<br>=
you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope<br>usi=
ng this list for this post is not inappropriate.<br><br>I did not find any =
solution for some of the issues yet, so I would<br>also welcome help on tho=
se! <br><br>So, here is the list of issues I had.<br><br>1. An easy one: on=
a new computer, you now have to desactive this<br>secure boot thingy, else=
the live CD won't boot. As I understand it<br>the guix live CD is not "sig=
ned", which was the reason why it did not<br>boot (while other live CDs did=
). This may sound obvious, except for<br>people whose previous computer was=
still using the BIOS; so maybe it<br>would be worth writing this in the in=
stallation instructions?<br><br>2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how=
profile worked;<br>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of d=
ifferent<br>packages, which took ages.<br><br>After a while, I understood t=
hat<br><br> - guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by defa=
ult: why?<br> Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do<=
br><br># GUIX_PROFILE=3D"/home/matthieu/.guix-profile"<br># . "$GUIX_PROFIL=
E/etc/profile"<br><br> So my question is: shouldn't the default=
.bashrc uses the newest<br> guix command from guix pull, and c=
ontain these lines above?<br><br> - sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/=
config.scm is very different from<br> sudo su; guix system reco=
nfigure /etc/config.scm.<br><br> This is written explicitly in =
the documentation, so that was clear,<br> but I fell into the t=
rap.<br><br> - guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) =
fails at a<br> very late stage. Maybe this command should issue=
a warning when not<br> run with root rights?<br><br><br>3. At =
one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe<br>I shut =
down my laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every<br>package I had =
installed with guix package -i.<br><br>4. I followed the initial exemple co=
nfiguration of "A graphical system<br>with a choice of lightweight window m=
anagers", but it did not contain<br>any terminal emulator.<br><br>5. I inst=
alled Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do<br>not display p=
roperly (e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick<br>"do not load cus=
tom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit). So<br>I believe some mor=
e font package should be installed with icecat.<br><br>6. I had issues with=
gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package<br>to start X sessions m=
anually. But it seems that startx/xinit looks for<br>a X server in the same=
path than the xinit binary, which won't work on<br>guix.<br><br>7. nm-appl=
et fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection: (1) Not autho=
rized to control networking.<br> I have to do sudo nm-applet to=
have it working (but it works well, wifi and wired)<br><br>8. Is there an =
equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which<br> package=
s a file would be located? This would be very useful, for<br> i=
nstance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is<br> =
located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I<br> &n=
bsp; wanted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for<br>&n=
bsp; guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in=
<br> your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would i=
nstall<br> the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to expli=
citely install<br> the right package in Guix.<br><br>9. nm-appl=
et cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden<br>sign" icon e=
verywhere (which is a bit scary). The error I get is<br><br> failed to=
load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon<br> 'nm-stage03-connecting1=
1' not present in theme Adwaita<br><br> so I guess some icon are miss=
ing; I tried to install<br> gnome-icon-theme with no luck.<br><br>10.=
My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the<br>proble=
m remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous<br>system co=
nfiguration, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a<br>"gdm" user t=
hat was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which<br>freezes my com=
puter for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same<br>times, it hangs). My =
work-around is to switch to the console and wait<br>that all these unsucces=
sful connection stops, but this is not<br>ideal...<br><br>11. Before I foun=
d this work-around I tried to fix the problem by<br>booting + chrooting fro=
m another OS, a solution I have often used to<br>fix my OS but could not do=
on guix... Which scares me a bit because I<br>fill that I have no easy way=
to fix my OS if it was broken. Is there<br>an easy way to do that in guix?=
<br><br>12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will<=
br>erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used<br=
>the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one<br>partition,=
and this was a bit scary.<br><br>Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I di=
d not write about everything<br>that went well during the installation, so =
thanks for your hard work!<br>By posting this, I just hope that it will hel=
p new users to have less<br>problems to solve in the future!<br><br>Thanks,=
<br>Matthieu<br></div><br><br><div>PS: here is my config.scm file<br></div>=
<br><div>;; This is an operating system configuration generated<br>;; by th=
e graphical installer.<br><br>(use-modules (gnu))<br>(use-service-modules d=
esktop networking ssh xorg)<br>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux))<br>(us=
e-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove<br><br>(operating-system<br> (l=
ocale "en_US.utf8")<br> (timezone "Europe/Paris")<br> (keyboard=
-layout<br> (keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl"))<br> =
; (kernel linux)<br> (firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware=
))<br> (bootloader<br> (bootloader-configuration<br=
> (bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)<br> &=
nbsp; (target "/boot/efi")<br> &nb=
sp; (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))<br> (file-systems<br> &n=
bsp; (cons* (file-system<br>  =
; (mount-point "/")<br> &nbs=
p; (device<br> &=
nbsp; (uu=
id "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936"<br> =
&nb=
sp; 'ext4))<br> =
(type "ext4"))<br> &n=
bsp; (file-system<br> =
(mount-point "/boot/efi")<br>&nb=
sp; (devi=
ce (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32))<br> =
(type "vfat"))<br> &n=
bsp; %base-file-systems))<br> (host-nam=
e "x1")<br> (users (cons* (user-account<br> &n=
bsp;  =
; (name "matthieu")<br> &nbs=
p; (comment "Matthieu")<br>=
&nb=
sp; (group "users")<br> &nbs=
p; =
(home-directory "/home/matthieu")<br> &n=
bsp; (supplemen=
tary-groups<br> =
'("wheel" "netdev" "=
audio" "video")))<br> =
%base-user-accounts))<br> (packa=
ges<br> (append<br> (list (=
specification->package "xmonad")<br> =
(specification->package "awesome")<br>&nb=
sp; (specificat=
ion->package "dmenu")<br> (specific=
ation->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment<br> &=
nbsp; (specification->pa=
ckage "nss-certs"))<br> %base-packages))<br>&=
nbsp; (services<br> (append<br> (=
list (service openssh-service-type)<br><br> &n=
bsp; (set-xorg-configuration<br> =
(xorg-configuration<br> &n=
bsp; (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))<br><br> &n=
bsp; (service slim-service-type (slim-configuration<br> &n=
bsp; &=
nbsp; (display ":0")<br> &=
nbsp; (vt "vt6")))<br><br>)<br>=
<br> (remove (lambda (service)<br>  =
; (eq? (service-kind service) gdm-serv=
ice-type))<br><br><br> %desktop-=
services<br><br> &n=
bsp; ))))</div></div></div></div><br></div></div></=
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Hello,
racin@HIDDEN skribis:
> (Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate)=20
I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s necessary.
> 13. My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work anym=
ore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format"). I realize=
that my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied.=20
What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmy profile disappeared once again=E2=80=9D? I=
s the
~/.guix-profile symlink still around? What does:
readlink -f ~/.guix-profile
show?
Regarding the =E2=80=9Cunsupported manifest format=E2=80=9D error: what=E2=
=80=99s the content of
~/.guix-profile/manifest? (You previously posted the contents of
~/.config/guix/current/manifest, but it=E2=80=99s not relevant here.)
In general profiles cannot =E2=80=9Cdisappear=E2=80=9D. A potential issue =
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the =E2=80=9Cunsupported manifest format=E2=80=9D error.
Did you happen to run several such commands in parallel?
Thanks in advance,
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Hello Ludovic,
> What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmy profile disappeared once again=E2=80=9D? =
Is the
> ~/.guix-profile symlink still around? What does:
>=20
> readlink -f ~/.guix-profile
>=20
> show?
>=20
.guix-profile points to /var/guix/profiles/per-user/matthieu/guix-profile a=
s it should. But the packages
that I had installed, like file or the urxvt command from rxvt-unicode, are=
no longer in my path.=20
The last time this happened, my manifest file was still working, but guix p=
ackage -I told that I had no installed package.
> Regarding the =E2=80=9Cunsupported manifest format=E2=80=9D error: what=
=E2=80=99s the content of
> ~/.guix-profile/manifest? (You previously posted the contents of
> ~/.config/guix/current/manifest, but it=E2=80=99s not relevant here.)
It exists, but is entirely empty (has size 0)
>=20
> In general profiles cannot =E2=80=9Cdisappear=E2=80=9D. A potential issu=
e one may
> encounter is that, if you running several =E2=80=9Cguix install=E2=80=9D =
or =E2=80=9Cguix
> package=E2=80=9D commands simultaneously, one of them will =E2=80=9Cwin=
=E2=80=9D, meaning that
> work done by the other one is discarded. However, that cannot lead to
> the =E2=80=9Cunsupported manifest format=E2=80=9D error.
>=20
> Did you happen to run several such commands in parallel?
Yes, I believe I did. I did not know this would cause such a mess!
Thanks,
Matthieu
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Hi,
racin@HIDDEN skribis:
>> What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmy profile disappeared once again=E2=80=9D?=
Is the
>> ~/.guix-profile symlink still around? What does:
>>=20
>> readlink -f ~/.guix-profile
>>=20
>> show?
>>=20
>
> .guix-profile points to /var/guix/profiles/per-user/matthieu/guix-profile=
as it should. But the packages
> that I had installed, like file or the urxvt command from rxvt-unicode, a=
re no longer in my path.=20
You mean no longer in $PATH?
> The last time this happened, my manifest file was still working, but guix=
package -I told that I had no installed package.
What do you mean by your =E2=80=9Cmanifest file was still working=E2=80=9D?
It would be great if you could paste commands that you typed and their
output, so we can more easily understand what is going wrong.
>> Regarding the =E2=80=9Cunsupported manifest format=E2=80=9D error: what=
=E2=80=99s the content of
>> ~/.guix-profile/manifest? (You previously posted the contents of
>> ~/.config/guix/current/manifest, but it=E2=80=99s not relevant here.)
>
> It exists, but is entirely empty (has size 0)
Then the store must be corrupt. ~/.guix-profile/manifest cannot be
empty, even you ran several =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 commands in parallel.
Could you run:
guix gc --verify=3Dcontents
?
Thanks,
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