GNU bug report logs - #36766
27.0.50; Remove gnus-start-news-server

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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50; Remove gnus-start-news-server
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:42:33 -0700

I think this function can be removed entirely. It is the only place
where the obsolete variables `gnus-nntp-server' and
`gnus-secondary-servers' are referenced, and its main job seems to be
bailing on Gnus startup if a nntp server isn't available. Now that Gnus
doesn't insist on being a newsreader, there's no reason why it should
ever bail on startup, no matter what happened. The only bit of the
function that looks like it should be kept is:

(gnus-agent-read-servers-validate-native gnus-select-method)

Which updates from earlier versions, but that bit could be moved elsewhere.

Message #8 received at 36766 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: 36766 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36766: 27.0.50; Remove gnus-start-news-server
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:26:57 +0200

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> I think this function can be removed entirely. It is the only place
> where the obsolete variables `gnus-nntp-server' and
> `gnus-secondary-servers' are referenced, and its main job seems to be
> bailing on Gnus startup if a nntp server isn't available.

Yes, so when gnus-nntp-server is removed, that function should be
removed (is the plan).  It's only been obsolete since 24.1, though, so
that sounds too soon.  Perhaps for Emacs 28?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #11 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36766: 27.0.50; Remove gnus-start-news-server
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:34:49 -0700

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> I think this function can be removed entirely. It is the only place
>> where the obsolete variables `gnus-nntp-server' and
>> `gnus-secondary-servers' are referenced, and its main job seems to be
>> bailing on Gnus startup if a nntp server isn't available.
>
> Yes, so when gnus-nntp-server is removed, that function should be
> removed (is the plan).  It's only been obsolete since 24.1, though, so
> that sounds too soon.  Perhaps for Emacs 28?

Oh! I was getting ahead of things, sorry. 28 sounds fine to me. I guess
I'll leave this bug report open for when the time comes.

Message #14 received at 36766 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: 36766 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36766: 27.0.50; Remove gnus-start-news-server
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:34:00 +0200

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Oh! I was getting ahead of things, sorry. 28 sounds fine to me. I guess
> I'll leave this bug report open for when the time comes.

I don't think that's necessary...  perhaps just add a comment to the
line before gnus-nntp-server that this function should be removed at the
same time?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: 36766-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36766: 27.0.50; Remove gnus-start-news-server
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 09:13:29 -0700

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Oh! I was getting ahead of things, sorry. 28 sounds fine to me. I guess
>> I'll leave this bug report open for when the time comes.
>
> I don't think that's necessary...  perhaps just add a comment to the
> line before gnus-nntp-server that this function should be removed at the
> same time?

Okay, will do.

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