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> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2019 20:34:14 +0000
> From: Charles Jackson <charles.b.jackson@HIDDEN>
> 
> I am requesting that GNU Emacs supports ligatures out of the box. I know
> about pretty-symbols-mode, and it is great, but it is not font
> ligatures.
> 
> Take my case for example: I just found the a new (new to me) font called
> Monoid (https://larsenwork.com/monoid/). It provides ligatures for
> various programming symbols That I would like to use. The ligatures are
> provided as actual True Type Font ligatures rather than Unicode symbols
> used by pretty-symbols-mode. Thus I couldn't use them at all. I even
> tried to look at the source code for the font to find the character
> code, but the codes for the ligature glyphs were not correct or did not
> exist.
> 
> I am asking you to provide font ligatures out of the box (emacs -Q) by
> using whatever fancy system that True Type Fonts use. This has become a
> feature that most text editors and word processors have by
> default. Emacs has no excuse.

Please be more specific about the feature you'd like to see: how would
Emacs support the ligatures? should it, for example, automatically
produce ﬀ when you type "ff" and ﬃ when you type "ffi"?  Or do you
want the ligation to happen only on-demand?

IOW, we need a user-level specification to make this happen.  Because
the infrastructure for supporting ligatures already exist, since we
started supporting the HarfBuzz shaping engine in Emacs.

Thanks.

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> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 03:05:28 +0000
> From: Charles Jackson <charles.b.jackson@HIDDEN>
> 
> I would think that it should be able to be turned on and off. as well as each ligature should be able to be turned on and off. If someone likes "fi" but not "ffi" then they should be able to turn "ffi" off. I would also think that it should be mode specific: "fi" should be enabled for text-mode but not for any prog-mode. On the other hand a ligature for != (becoming a not equals sign) should be enabled for C like language modes but /= should form the same ligature for Haskell and Lisp.
> 
> Another important thing about ligatures that is different than pretty symbols mode is that the ligature should take up the same amount of space as the original characters. For example: the not equals ligature should not simply be the "≠" Unicode character because that only takes up one space but the original characters != or /= take up two spaces. this will solve the spacing (indenting) issue. Similarly the ligature for === in Javascript (that many programming ligature font enable) should take up a full three character widths.
> 
> What do you think?

First, please keep the bug address on the CC list (use "Reply to
All"), so that this discussion is recorded by our issue tracker.

More to the point, I think this makes the job somewhat complicated,
especially the "same amount of space" part, and hope that someone
volunteers to do it.

Thanks.

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