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eval: Symbol’s function definition is void: hywconfig-ring-save

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Package: hyperbole; Reported by: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN>; dated Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:13:02 UTC; Maintainer for hyperbole is bug-hyperbole@HIDDEN.

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Hi Bob,

> Mats Lidell writes:
> Is there no prior art on this? What do other packages do?

Looking at two other major packages, helm and org, they both require some action by the user. If I remember correctly both use make for installing the package and some elisp has to be copied and used from .emacs that differ from a package install.

So I don't think requiring something similar for hyperbole is asking for to much of a source code user. The generation of autoloads and byte compiling could be provided in elisp. We could even have explicit button that runs that so you could bootstrap your installation using Hyperbole after a git pull!? Or why not even include the git pull in there as well!

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Hi Bob,

> Robert Weiner writes:
> I still think something should be done about this.  We could leave them in the source tree and just delete them when a package distribution is made.  Let's figure it out as simplicity even for source users is what we should strive for.

I agree it should be fixed! If we keep it in git though we would have to remember to update it.

Is there no prior art on this? What do other packages do?

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On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM Mats Lidell <mats.lidell@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> > Jean Louis writes:
> > I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X
> toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
> >
> >         Hyperbole:   7.0.3a
> >         Sys Type:    x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >         OS Type:     gnu/linux
> >         Window Sys:  x
> >         News Reader: Gnus v5.13
> >
> > I am using Hyperbole from time to time. It is helpful when I want to
> > see quickly function definition within Emacs Lisp.
> >
> > But to save window configuration with {C-h h w s} I get this error
> > below:
> >
> > eval: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is void: hywconfig-ring-save
>
> Since you are using 7.0.3a you must be using hyperbole directly from git.
> In that case you are missing the hyperbole autoload definitions.


> When using the package through the package manager you get these generate=
d
> on installation. When you download the sources yourself you need to
> generate these and also make sure to load them.
>

I still think something should be done about this.  We could leave them in
the source tree and just delete them when a package distribution is made.
Let's figure it out as simplicity even for source users is what we should
strive for.

Bob

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace,monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif">On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM Mats Lidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:mats.lidell@HIDDEN">mats.lidell@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex">Hi Jean,<br>
<br>
&gt; Jean Louis writes:<br>
&gt; I use:=C2=A0 Editor:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x=
86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hyperbole:=C2=A0 =C2=A07.0.3a<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sys Type:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 x86_64-pc-linu=
x-gnu<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OS Type:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0gnu/linux=
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Window Sys:=C2=A0 x<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0News Reader: Gnus v5.13<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am using Hyperbole from time to time. It is helpful when I want to<b=
r>
&gt; see quickly function definition within Emacs Lisp.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But to save window configuration with {C-h h w s} I get this error<br>
&gt; below:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; eval: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is void: hywconfig-ring-sav=
e<br>
<br>
Since you are using 7.0.3a you must be using hyperbole directly from git. I=
n that case you are missing the hyperbole autoload definitions.</blockquote=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
When using the package through the package manager you get these generated =
on installation. When you download the sources yourself you need to generat=
e these and also make sure to load them.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">I still=
 think something should be done about this.=C2=A0 We could leave them in th=
e source tree and just delete them when a package distribution is made.=C2=
=A0 Let&#39;s figure it out as simplicity even for source users is what we =
should strive for.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:m=
onospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:monospace,monospace">Bob</div></div></div>

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Hi Jean,

> Jean Louis writes:
> I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X t=
oolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
>
>         Hyperbole:   7.0.3a
>         Sys Type:    x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>         OS Type:     gnu/linux
>         Window Sys:  x
>         News Reader: Gnus v5.13
>
> I am using Hyperbole from time to time. It is helpful when I want to
> see quickly function definition within Emacs Lisp.
>
> But to save window configuration with {C-h h w s} I get this error
> below:
>
> eval: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is void: hywconfig-ring-save

Since you are using 7.0.3a you must be using hyperbole directly from git. I=
n that case you are missing the hyperbole autoload definitions.

When using the package through the package manager you get these generated =
on installation. When you download the sources yourself you need to generat=
e these and also make sure to load them.

I'm sorry but our support for using the sources directly is not perfect at =
the moment and is something that we need to look over.

For my general day-to-day work with hyperbole I run this function in the so=
urce folder after doing changes to the code or switching branch etc. Actual=
ly I created it now but have done these sort of things manually before when=
 needed ;-)

(defun my-prepare-hyperbole-source ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name "hyperbole-autoloads.el"=
))
	(backup-inhibited t))
    (update-directory-autoloads "."))
  (let ((generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name "kotl/kotl-autoloads.el"=
))
	(backup-inhibited t))
    (update-directory-autoloads "kotl"))
  (byte-recompile-directory "~/src/hyperbole" 0 t))

Yours
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From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN>
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Subject: eval: =?utf-8?Q?Symbol=E2=80=99s?= function definition is void:
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I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X t=
oolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)

        Hyperbole:   7.0.3a
        Sys Type:    x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
        OS Type:     gnu/linux
        Window Sys:  x
        News Reader: Gnus v5.13

I am using Hyperbole from time to time. It is helpful when I want to
see quickly function definition within Emacs Lisp.

But to save window configuration with {C-h h w s} I get this error
below:

eval: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is void: hywconfig-ring-save

--=20
Thanks,
Jean Louis




Acknowledgement sent to Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-hyperbole@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-hyperbole@HIDDEN:
bug#36996; Package hyperbole. Full text available.
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