X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#37249: console shell upon login is not ~/.guix-profile/bash -- is this always/never ok? Resent-From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.37249.B.156729008614633 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 37249 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: New-Bug <bug-guix@HIDDEN> Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.156729008614633 (code B ref -1); Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:22:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2019 22:21:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1i4BkL-0003nw-D4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:21:26 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39383) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1i4BkJ-0003nn-Hs for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:21:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1i4BkH-0000DG-2S for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:21:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1i4BkE-0005wv-H8 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:21:20 -0400 Received: from imta-37.everyone.net ([216.200.145.37]:45210 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1i4BkE-0005tB-7d for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:21:18 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7VMK8Ws019639 for <bug-guix@HIDDEN>; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 15:21:14 -0700 X-Eon-Originating-Account: IjudDz4mORRccYVDCSSJse4D7lxRJ_2HTcI09gtFD8w X-Eon-Dm: m0117124.ppops.net Received: by m0117124.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 32d0d199) id m0117124.5d552785.2ace20 for <bug-guix@HIDDEN>; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 15:21:13 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJdavLZE5FFhQIAAAAB,d448517ec0c96bd9367223477daa43a7 X-Eip: HI153YKaxZ_NTg0ZOCna_AEbQDatl-8uKa5UdIlBln0 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 15:21:04 -0700 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-08-31_09:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1034 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908310260 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 216.200.145.37 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Hello, In the pursuit of causes for problems as yet not clear enough to post as bugs, I am looking for ambivalences in name searches in /gnu/... and /(the-rest). The first is immediately bash: To duplicate, log into a fresh console and look at what's running and invoked. I did an Alt-F4 and logged in fresh, and captured the terminal screen seen in the following: ---------8<--------- [ ... snip some output from .bash_profile ... ] [13:33 ~/bs]$ ps -o pid,tty,args PID TT COMMAND 25500 tty4 -bash 25966 tty4 ps -o pid,tty,args [13:35 ~/bs]$ which -a ps /usr/bin/ps [13:35 ~/bs]$ file /proc/25500/exe /proc/25500/exe: symbolic link to /usr/bin/bash So, the shell I am talking to right after login is /usr/bin/bash, but if I type bash, the guix version will be found first: [13:36 ~/bs]$ which -a bash /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash /usr/bin/bash [13:38 ~/bs]$ which -a bash|xargs readlink -f /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash /usr/bin/bash So, nesting into the guix one, [13:39 ~/bs]$ bash [13:39 ~/bs]$ ps -o pid,tty,args PID TT COMMAND 25500 tty4 -bash 26226 tty4 bash 26253 tty4 ps -o pid,tty,args [13:40 ~/bs]$ file /proc/26226/exe /proc/26226/exe: symbolic link to /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash Indeed our current pid belongs to guix bash. What is the difference? They were built differently... [13:41 ~/bs]$ [13:42 ~/bs]$ which -a bash /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash /usr/bin/bash [13:43 ~/bs]$ which -a bash|xargs readlink -f|while read line;do echo -ne "$line:\n "; file "$line";done /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash: /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /gnu/store/h90vnqw0nwd0hhm1l5dgxsdrigddfmq4-glibc-2.28/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped /usr/bin/bash: /usr/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=21a51cb5f7d727370e4d8099d283d7cd20222571, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped Are the differences possibly dangerous? The way I got the above, and this tail part itself: [13:45 ~/bs]$ tty /dev/tty4 [13:47 ~/bs]$ su -c 'setterm -file login-bashes.txt -dump 4' ------------------------------------ Looking for dependencies outside of /gnu from within /gnu, I grepped the whole as you see below. I am sure most of this is fine and coming out of documentation and stuff meant for other than normally booted runtime. But does it all look ok? Or is my foreign-host twilight-zone shared ArchLinux/guix namespace really not meant to be. I.e., is guix really defined to use /usr/ as a trusted base namespace when it is defined by e.g. linux-libre in GuixSD ? Where would be the best docs to read about the guix name and environment rationales? Ok, here is the grep: (most of the bashes are in the store, as seen at the bottom, but many not) ------------------------------- This was generated by: grep -Ihr '^ *#!' /gnu|sort|uniq -c|sort -h > gnu-bin-hash-bangs.txt 2 #!/bin/csh 2 #!/bin/tcsh 2 #!@GAWK@ -f 2 #!/gnu/store/03n7p9g78ixkrmra674pkx2c9cx8fwmz-guile-1.8.8/bin/guile \ 2 #!/gnu/store/0xfmkqpi7xk3ixhrqvjijk4ibsglif62-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m 2 #!/gnu/store/57daq0hkwvmwx4asiy669cmln868brfm-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 2 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile 2 #!/gnu/store/b7fqhszxl02g6pfm3vw6b3cjz472qrly-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m 2 #!/gnu/store/cl42c73h609bp2gy92qkh8q56spnnl2n-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m 2 #! /gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl 2 #!/gnu/store/h8l1pby3cm6b4fxsfwwr65b4d1hyh6cs-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m 2 #!/gnu/store/l67sib1ld0fgyf0f4vrzyxnmn4yvimvb-gawk-4.2.1/bin/gawk -f 2 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/sh - 2 #!/gnu/store/ybglr7nfs8v9kpnm8vf4drg3gafnvd15-guile-static-stripped-2.2.4/bin/guile --no-auto-compile 2 #!/gnu/store/zm3188ipzi262s0m8bxm24br77yh9pd8-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 2 #!/gnu/store/zm3188ipzi262s0m8bxm24br77yh9pd8-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m 2 #!@GUILE@ -s 2 #!@PHP@ -q 2 #!@TCLSH@ 2 #! /usr/bin/perl 2 #!/usr/bin/perl -- # -*- Perl -*- 2 #! /usr/bin/perl -w 2 #! /usr/bin/python 2 #!/usr/bin/python -u 2 #!@WISH@ 3 #!#{Gem.ruby} 3 #!/gnu/store/81y6l9ggc5q6z44hp90ll4dv5jl582mq-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 3 #!/gnu/store/hw0cz0mis43z19i76pl6ijx5risx4lf0-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 3 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python -O 3 #!/gnu/store/pyrlmxqx3g1mhzpnfpw4w94rj08wxfhj-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 3 #!/gnu/store/x9c77i6r5fmarslij6ng81awgrxblplm-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 3 #!/gnu/store/xwzyy0q261brxmafkvinrrvkq4rgwiq6-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 3 #!if(WithStride,".stride","") 3 #!if(WithStride,".stride","") 3 #! libapr-1.so 3 #!/usr/bin/env ruby 4 #! $key eq '-range' and $key .= 's'; 4 #! $pod_parser->select(@{ $opts{'-ranges'} }) 4 #!$^X -w 4 #! at all.) 4 #!/gnu/store/9jjnk994sg3kynx7w2p873x60yr27q1p-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/cwla78yg7vnngk51jp81j4phy2fpgbhm-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/glvv9jyp28f8454laig76agc3jig4f4z-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/gvwf71vddp8c1d7ydqg02p43mgdjrx6s-bash 4 #!/gnu/store/qqfrzd5jrpq7i1gn9spv7hzpj4kllvj0-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/qsvja1gy86vrdkcqygkamg5j0sfq6ry4-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/s795jav4270x940spl48a885nhw4axnx-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/wsd8i4dy3vvkpfjlg5m1q5cy0b2ld95q-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/yw409j5hzvhgj54p2xxaqbh3bz9zfhpg-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #!/gnu/store/zvhp49cvslhjdv7n19nssv2kr2jqa87h-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF 4 #! if ( (defined $opts{'-ranges'}) 4 #!include_default, #!include /Path/to/another/manifest.skip 4 #! libaprutil-1.so 4 #! /opt/perl5/bin/perl 4 #!/path/to/a/custom_perl --some --args 4 #!/path/to/jperl 4 #!/path/to/perl -Mencoding=euc-jp 4 #!/path/to/perl script invocation. There is a PTF available from 4 #! -*-perl-*- 4 #!perl 4 #! perl 4 #!@PERL@ 4 #!perl -l 4 #!perl -T 4 #!./perl -w 4 #!/pro/bin/perl 4 #!/QOpenSys/perl/bin/perl should always work. 4 #! && ((ref $opts{'-ranges'}) eq 'ARRAY') ); 4 #! ## Select the desired paragraph ranges 4 #!/usr/bin/env perl use lib qw( lib ); # Add ./lib to @INC 4 #!/usr/bin/perl MakeMaker will change this to the path of the perl 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -n 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -pi.orig 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -s 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -spi.orig # same as -s -p -i.orig 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -T -w 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -w 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -wl 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -w -T 4 #!/usr/bin/php 4 #! /usr/bin/sh 4 #!/usr/local/bin/perl5.14 4 #!/usr/local/bin/perl # just a comment really 4 #!/usr/local/perl-5.6/bin/perl -w 4 #!/usr/locl/bin/perl 5 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -W 5 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python -O 5 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python -O 5 #!/usr/bin/env python2 6 #!2_]r;QWmr;HTnrVZTls&f@&'E.jlrVud)rr5ao!5AL4r;?NmrVlcos83-$s!e*NeGfI2rVud! 6 #![allow(dead_code, unused_imports)] 6 #! /bin/bash 6 #!/bin/bash^^J% 6 #!/bin/sh 6 #!bQ7"8Gg6b3eoe>$R71>:0O.S=?1;7XQV?G"!XuWkieE.A([)Gb:<g^IbF&+pDD 6 #!cslatex 6 #! <fmtname> <enginename> <hyphen> <args> 6 #!GaH0,lQdqUHRI!sXe9eQO3Ee^,L\eVF^Wbnu,aSH[**!_"<Pp=0tM"j#6E8hJM_"j#6E?QmeH 6 #!/gnu/store/2k67pvrdq9hygg2ysgflk94jhbnc9s9g-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/csh 6 #!/gnu/store/2k67pvrdq9hygg2ysgflk94jhbnc9s9g-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/csh -xv 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -n 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -p -i 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -p -i.bak 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -T 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -T -w 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w 6 #!H!IX"''9Wa>D7VYA@E`L5suKOJFl<>^ul(bEXhP*HM"9Cbeu,BGMsN,"AdAt[@0 6 #!*k<&fW2FrVus62#[IT!r2g.8PT6c"onDor;HKjrVQBcqo8O6&-;h3!XT9::G`Fa"TSNE1E60, 6 #!Kmci!<<*"Z2t"+!g3]e!<<*"\cMj3"Hj)l!<<*"_?'];"d0#h!<<*"aoVPC#Ef 6 #!kTb'N:-k+U6(!m^1q$6QNUqf%C$^9!K[Ab31,32$=gB!5?i/?h?%VXZd%RmtRZfZE*me2U0QZ'3/ 6 #!latex 6 #! Map belleek.map 6 #! Map mapname.map 6 #! MixedMap mapname.map 6 #!/nix/store/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-glibc-2.18/bin/sh 6 #!P5"q7-/;:!\TuP1=X[Q1lGL6k.rYpP!p4b6-X*ZAl;G!b8,cGrd14Q5D0jpXMON 6 #!pdfcslatex 6 #!pdflatex 6 #! @PERL@ -w 6 #!rF>2s`M\gb\?pQ[)lRMVXD7X%;@d6\M.@oPbQ)'8mjcqSsDGM79n2$XtTN<DZbi 6 #!topic/comp.text.tex/o14P2e83o4A}{comp.text.tex} for a macro that will define commands and also save the commands being defined in a file or a container macro, \eg, for spelling exceptions on editors that don't support \tex syntax. 6 #!UGlO1/(4)%t4-m<.kt,%uoHGtV4M7IFIlnDr.!2?[>P^t.[[P$W\[/V0J8eAS<P 6 #! /usr/bin/env perl 6 #!/usr/bin/env pfaedit 6 #!/usr/bin/fontforge -lang=ff 6 #!/usr/bin/fontforge -script 6 #!/usr/bin/fontforge -script 6 #!/usr/local/bin/perl 7 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 8 #!/gnu/store/81y6l9ggc5q6z44hp90ll4dv5jl582mq-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 8 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/bash 8 #!/gnu/store/hw0cz0mis43z19i76pl6ijx5risx4lf0-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 8 #!/gnu/store/pyrlmxqx3g1mhzpnfpw4w94rj08wxfhj-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 8 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/sh 8 #!/gnu/store/x9c77i6r5fmarslij6ng81awgrxblplm-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 8 #!/gnu/store/xwzyy0q261brxmafkvinrrvkq4rgwiq6-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 8 #!/gnu/store/zzakf905mzla4csi1dn9qpcwmgbxj29b-bash-static-4.4.23/bin/bash 8 #!/gnu/store/zzakf905mzla4csi1dn9qpcwmgbxj29b-bash-static-4.4.23/bin/sh 8 #!/usr/bin/perl -n 8 #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw 8 #!/usr/local/bin/perl 8 #!/usr/local/bin/perl5.10.0 8 #!/your/path/to/perl 10 #!/gnu/store/0xfmkqpi7xk3ixhrqvjijk4ibsglif62-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 10 #!/gnu/store/cl42c73h609bp2gy92qkh8q56spnnl2n-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 10 #!/usr/bin/emacs --script 11 #!/bin/sh -x 11 #!!!!!!!!??? Check @pwd_log 11 #!/gnu/store/g30znz9vwkvi23k41dgallfg85sj65hp-python-wrapper-3.7.0/bin/python 11 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 11 #!/usr/bin/emacs -script 11 #! /usr/local/bin/python 12 #!/bin/sh 12 #! /bin/sh 12 #! cont-fr pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-fr.mkii 12 #! cont-it pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-it.mkii 12 #! cont-nl pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-nl.mkii 12 #! cont-ro pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-ro.mkii 12 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -n -s 12 #!/gnu/store/l67sib1ld0fgyf0f4vrzyxnmn4yvimvb-gawk-4.2.1/bin/awk -f 12 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh -vx 12 #! Map belleek.map 12 #! mflua mflua-nowin - mf.ini 12 #!/usr/bin/env perl 12 #!/usr/bin/fontforge 12 #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw 12 #!/usr/bin/python 12 #!/usr/local/bin/fontforge 12 #! /usr/local/bin/perl 12 #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w 13 #!/gnu/store/0xfmkqpi7xk3ixhrqvjijk4ibsglif62-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 13 #!/gnu/store/b7fqhszxl02g6pfm3vw6b3cjz472qrly-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 13 #!/gnu/store/cl42c73h609bp2gy92qkh8q56spnnl2n-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 13 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 13 #!/gnu/store/h8l1pby3cm6b4fxsfwwr65b4d1hyh6cs-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 13 #!/gnu/store/zm3188ipzi262s0m8bxm24br77yh9pd8-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 14 #!@EMACS@ --script 14 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile -ds 14 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh - 14 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh -x 14 #!@GUILE@ \ 14 #!@GUILE@ -ds 14 #! luajitlatex luajittex language.dat,language.dat.lua lualatex.ini 16 #!$PERL 16 #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w 17 #!/gnu/store/3w3nz0h93h7jif9d9c3hdfyimgkpx1a4-python-wrapper-3.7.0/bin/python 18 #! 18 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -s 18 #! luajitlatex luajittex language.dat,language.dat.lua lualatex.ini 18 #!./perl 18 #!perl.exe (versions below 4) 18 #!/usr/bin/env perl 20 #! /gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/bash 20 #!/usr/bin/perl -w 21 #!/gnu/store/b7fqhszxl02g6pfm3vw6b3cjz472qrly-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 22 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 22 #!/usr/bin/env wish 23 #!/gnu/store/r68bi4640vm0s7zsgyk7shsag8ibl3nc-python-wrapper-3.7.0/bin/python 24 #!/bin/lua 24 #!/usr/bin/lua 24 #!/usr/bin/perl 25 #!/gnu/store/57daq0hkwvmwx4asiy669cmln868brfm-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 25 #!perl -w 28 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 28 #!perl 29 #!/gnu/store/bs6bwq60sh3zamgiqmkyryf1lxbfjkgd-lua-5.3.5/bin/lua 30 #![allow(dead_code, unused_variables)] 30 #!/usr/bin/env python 32 #!/usr/bin/env perl 33 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl 35 #![allow(unused_variables)] 35 #! /bin/sh -e 35 #![feature(omit_gdb_pretty_printer_section)] 36 #! $SHELL 38 #!/gnu/store/@dots{}-guile-2.0.11/bin/guile -ds 38 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 40 #!/bin/sh 40 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile --no-auto-compile 42 #!/gnu/store/r658y3cgpnf99nxjxqgjiaizx20ac4k0-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile --no-auto-compile 42 #!/usr/bin/env ../utility/fontforge-interp.sh 44 #!/usr/bin/perl 45 #!/usr/bin/env ruby 46 #!location/of/bin/ruby 47 #!@BASH@ 48 #!/usr/bin/env texlua 50 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile \ 51 #!/usr/bin/perl -w 53 #!/usr/bin/env fontforge 56 #!@SHELL@ 56 #!/usr/bin/perl 57 #!/gnu/store/5wp8mhmlq2xbd6kg0dq7armjgva7j7cs-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl 60 #!/gnu/store/2k67pvrdq9hygg2ysgflk94jhbnc9s9g-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/csh -f 61 #!/gnu/store/zvm2hcnbcv9mygzwpbrb6pvj1nc9wbfv-perl-boot0-5.28.0/bin/perl 63 #!location/of/bin/bash 64 #! /bin/sh 66 #!/usr/bin/perl -w 80 #! /usr/bin/env python 90 #! /usr/bin/env python3 108 #!/gnu/store/fndcvkn64ycw720d3ikjvmyvhsqk2v4n-ruby-2.5.3/bin/ruby 110 #!~a 116 #!/usr/bin/perl 137 #!/bin/sh 140 #!/gnu/store/61sixy2zjzlrpqwxphzf7v6h0yaysx1s-ruby-2.5.3/bin/ruby 140 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python 145 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/sh 146 #!/gnu/store/hw0cz0mis43z19i76pl6ijx5risx4lf0-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 146 #!/gnu/store/xwzyy0q261brxmafkvinrrvkq4rgwiq6-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 150 #!/gnu/store/81y6l9ggc5q6z44hp90ll4dv5jl582mq-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 150 #!/gnu/store/pyrlmxqx3g1mhzpnfpw4w94rj08wxfhj-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 150 #!/gnu/store/x9c77i6r5fmarslij6ng81awgrxblplm-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua 162 #!/usr/bin/env python3 167 #!/bin/bash 169 #!/usr/bin/env python 207 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python 209 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python 228 #!/bin/sh 292 #!/gnu/store/5s2nib1lrd2101bbrivcl17kjx1mspw6-coreutils-8.30/bin/false 292 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/false 319 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w 362 #!/bin/bash 1589 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl 2706 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/bash 3294 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh 3871 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash ----------------------------------------------------- Some look a bit weird, like 6 #!/nix/store/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-glibc-2.18/bin/sh but I guess it could be a template for some remote context. Idk. There is no /nix directory on my disk anyway. Maybe inside a ramdisk image? (There were lots of matches in what appears binary to grep, but they were all to inside /gnu/store, so I eliminated them for here, with -I) BTW, I haven't yet started shepherd automatically, and it isn't running in the above. Just guix-daemon: from emacs I'm in now: Esc-1 Esc-! ps -e f |grep -i guix 530 ? Ss 0:00 /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/current-guix/bin/guix-daemon --build-users-group=guixbuild 31185 ? Ss 0:00 \_ /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash -c ps -e f |grep -i guix 31187 ? S 0:00 \_ grep -i guix I have set SHELL=/home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash in ~/.bash_profile, but as seen, that doesn't take effect for the immediate login shell. I wonder if I could exec it at the end of ~/.bash_profile -- or even as the first and only thing, hm... Hope someone can point to to enlightening reading re names in guix and its environments. TIA ;-) Regards, Bengt Richter
Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Subject: bug#37249: Acknowledgement (console shell upon login is not ~/.guix-profile/bash -- is this always/never ok?) Message-ID: <handler.37249.B.156729008614633.ack <at> debbugs.gnu.org> References: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> X-Gnu-PR-Message: ack 37249 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:22:02 +0000 Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): bug-guix@HIDDEN If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please send it to 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@HIDDEN unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. --=20 37249: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D37249 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#37249: console shell upon login is not ~/.guix-profile/bash -- is this always/never ok? Resent-From: iyzsong@HIDDEN (=?UTF-8?Q?=E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6?=) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.37249.B37249.15678462351528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37249 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Cc: 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37249-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B37249.15678462351528 (code B ref 37249); Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 37249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2019 08:50:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37514 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1i6WQU-0000OZ-68 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 04:50:35 -0400 Received: from rezeros.cc ([45.76.207.221]:60168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <iyzsong@HIDDEN>) id 1i6WQP-0000ON-N7 for 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 04:50:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (2409:8a62:378:7af0:dd30:fa92:68c3:a097 [IPv6:2409:8a62:378:7af0:dd30:fa92:68c3:a097]) by rezeros.cc (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 240827f2 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sat, 7 Sep 2019 08:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gift (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 02409c72; Sat, 7 Sep 2019 08:50:12 +0000 (UTC) From: iyzsong@HIDDEN (=?UTF-8?Q?=E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6?=) References: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2019 16:50:12 +0800 In-Reply-To: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> (Bengt Richter's message of "Sat, 31 Aug 2019 15:21:04 -0700") Message-ID: <87r24sij7f.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> writes: > Hello, > > In the pursuit of causes for problems as yet not clear enough to > post as bugs, I am looking for ambivalences in name searches > in /gnu/... and /(the-rest). Hello, I think most guix packages (some won't or require manual configurations) will work on a foreign GNU/Linux distribution, and guix shouldn't cause problems for the distribution. > > The first is immediately bash: > To duplicate, log into a fresh console and look at what's running > and invoked. I did an Alt-F4 and logged in fresh, and captured the > terminal screen seen in the following: > > ---------8<--------- > > [ ... snip some output from .bash_profile ... ] > > [13:33 ~/bs]$ ps -o pid,tty,args > PID TT COMMAND > 25500 tty4 -bash > 25966 tty4 ps -o pid,tty,args > [13:35 ~/bs]$ which -a ps > /usr/bin/ps > [13:35 ~/bs]$ file /proc/25500/exe > /proc/25500/exe: symbolic link to /usr/bin/bash > > So, the shell I am talking to right after login is /usr/bin/bash, > but if I type bash, the guix version will be found first: > > [13:36 ~/bs]$ which -a bash > /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash > /usr/bin/bash > [13:38 ~/bs]$ which -a bash|xargs readlink -f > /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash > /usr/bin/bash After login, user's shell program as specified in /etc/passwd will be executed. So you should have '/usr/bin/bash' or '/bin/bash' in /etc/passwd, and your $PATH have '$HOME/.guix-profile/bin' before '/usr/bin', so when type 'bash' in a shell, the guix one got executed. > > So, nesting into the guix one, > > [13:39 ~/bs]$ bash > [13:39 ~/bs]$ ps -o pid,tty,args > PID TT COMMAND > 25500 tty4 -bash > 26226 tty4 bash > 26253 tty4 ps -o pid,tty,args > [13:40 ~/bs]$ file /proc/26226/exe > /proc/26226/exe: symbolic link to /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash > > Indeed our current pid belongs to guix bash. > What is the difference? They were built differently... > > [13:41 ~/bs]$ > [13:42 ~/bs]$ which -a bash > /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash > /usr/bin/bash > [13:43 ~/bs]$ which -a bash|xargs readlink -f|while read line;do echo -ne "$line:\n "; file "$line";done > /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash: > /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash: > ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter > /gnu/store/h90vnqw0nwd0hhm1l5dgxsdrigddfmq4-glibc-2.28/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, > for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped > /usr/bin/bash: > /usr/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, > interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=21a51cb5f7d727370e4d8099d283d7cd20222571, > for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped > > Are the differences possibly dangerous? It's totally OK, you can use both :-) > > The way I got the above, and this tail part itself: > [13:45 ~/bs]$ tty > /dev/tty4 > [13:47 ~/bs]$ su -c 'setterm -file login-bashes.txt -dump 4' > ------------------------------------ > > Looking for dependencies outside of /gnu from within /gnu, I grepped the whole > as you see below. I am sure most of this is fine and coming out of documentation > and stuff meant for other than normally booted runtime. But does it all look ok? > > Or is my foreign-host twilight-zone shared ArchLinux/guix namespace really not > meant to be. I.e., is guix really defined to use /usr/ as a trusted base namespace > when it is defined by e.g. linux-libre in GuixSD ? > > Where would be the best docs to read about the guix name and environment rationales? There are no 'namespace' involed, guix and your ArchLinux packages share the same filesystem. And guix binaries are self-contained, they can work without any dependenices outsite of /gnu (sometimes they will use what's available in PATH, etc. which may be provided by your distribution). > > Ok, here is the grep: > (most of the bashes are in the store, as seen at the bottom, but many not) > ------------------------------- > This was generated by: > grep -Ihr '^ *#!' /gnu|sort|uniq -c|sort -h > gnu-bin-hash-bangs.txt > > 2 #!/bin/csh > 2 #!/bin/tcsh > 2 #!@GAWK@ -f > 2 #!/gnu/store/03n7p9g78ixkrmra674pkx2c9cx8fwmz-guile-1.8.8/bin/guile \ > 2 #!/gnu/store/0xfmkqpi7xk3ixhrqvjijk4ibsglif62-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m > 2 #!/gnu/store/57daq0hkwvmwx4asiy669cmln868brfm-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 > 2 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile > 2 #!/gnu/store/b7fqhszxl02g6pfm3vw6b3cjz472qrly-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m > 2 #!/gnu/store/cl42c73h609bp2gy92qkh8q56spnnl2n-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m > 2 #! /gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl > 2 #!/gnu/store/h8l1pby3cm6b4fxsfwwr65b4d1hyh6cs-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m > 2 #!/gnu/store/l67sib1ld0fgyf0f4vrzyxnmn4yvimvb-gawk-4.2.1/bin/gawk -f > 2 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/sh - > 2 #!/gnu/store/ybglr7nfs8v9kpnm8vf4drg3gafnvd15-guile-static-stripped-2.2.4/bin/guile --no-auto-compile > 2 #!/gnu/store/zm3188ipzi262s0m8bxm24br77yh9pd8-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 > 2 #!/gnu/store/zm3188ipzi262s0m8bxm24br77yh9pd8-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7m > 2 #!@GUILE@ -s > 2 #!@PHP@ -q > 2 #!@TCLSH@ > 2 #! /usr/bin/perl > 2 #!/usr/bin/perl -- # -*- Perl -*- > 2 #! /usr/bin/perl -w > 2 #! /usr/bin/python > 2 #!/usr/bin/python -u > 2 #!@WISH@ > 3 #!#{Gem.ruby} > 3 #!/gnu/store/81y6l9ggc5q6z44hp90ll4dv5jl582mq-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 3 #!/gnu/store/hw0cz0mis43z19i76pl6ijx5risx4lf0-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 3 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python -O > 3 #!/gnu/store/pyrlmxqx3g1mhzpnfpw4w94rj08wxfhj-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 3 #!/gnu/store/x9c77i6r5fmarslij6ng81awgrxblplm-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 3 #!/gnu/store/xwzyy0q261brxmafkvinrrvkq4rgwiq6-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 3 #!if(WithStride,".stride","") > 3 #!if(WithStride,".stride","") > 3 #! libapr-1.so > 3 #!/usr/bin/env ruby > 4 #! $key eq '-range' and $key .= 's'; > 4 #! $pod_parser->select(@{ $opts{'-ranges'} }) > 4 #!$^X -w > 4 #! at all.) > 4 #!/gnu/store/9jjnk994sg3kynx7w2p873x60yr27q1p-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/cwla78yg7vnngk51jp81j4phy2fpgbhm-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/glvv9jyp28f8454laig76agc3jig4f4z-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/gvwf71vddp8c1d7ydqg02p43mgdjrx6s-bash > 4 #!/gnu/store/qqfrzd5jrpq7i1gn9spv7hzpj4kllvj0-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/qsvja1gy86vrdkcqygkamg5j0sfq6ry4-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/s795jav4270x940spl48a885nhw4axnx-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/wsd8i4dy3vvkpfjlg5m1q5cy0b2ld95q-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/yw409j5hzvhgj54p2xxaqbh3bz9zfhpg-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #!/gnu/store/zvhp49cvslhjdv7n19nssv2kr2jqa87h-pulseaudio-12.2/bin/pulseaudio -nF > 4 #! if ( (defined $opts{'-ranges'}) > 4 #!include_default, #!include /Path/to/another/manifest.skip > 4 #! libaprutil-1.so > 4 #! /opt/perl5/bin/perl > 4 #!/path/to/a/custom_perl --some --args > 4 #!/path/to/jperl > 4 #!/path/to/perl -Mencoding=euc-jp > 4 #!/path/to/perl script invocation. There is a PTF available from > 4 #! -*-perl-*- > 4 #!perl > 4 #! perl > 4 #!@PERL@ > 4 #!perl -l > 4 #!perl -T > 4 #!./perl -w > 4 #!/pro/bin/perl > 4 #!/QOpenSys/perl/bin/perl should always work. > 4 #! && ((ref $opts{'-ranges'}) eq 'ARRAY') ); > 4 #! ## Select the desired paragraph ranges > 4 #!/usr/bin/env perl use lib qw( lib ); # Add ./lib to @INC > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl MakeMaker will change this to the path of the perl > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -n > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -pi.orig > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -s > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -spi.orig # same as -s -p -i.orig > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -T -w > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -w > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -wl > 4 #!/usr/bin/perl -w -T > 4 #!/usr/bin/php > 4 #! /usr/bin/sh > 4 #!/usr/local/bin/perl5.14 > 4 #!/usr/local/bin/perl # just a comment really > 4 #!/usr/local/perl-5.6/bin/perl -w > 4 #!/usr/locl/bin/perl > 5 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -W > 5 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python -O > 5 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python -O > 5 #!/usr/bin/env python2 > 6 #!2_]r;QWmr;HTnrVZTls&f@&'E.jlrVud)rr5ao!5AL4r;?NmrVlcos83-$s!e*NeGfI2rVud! > 6 #![allow(dead_code, unused_imports)] > 6 #! /bin/bash > 6 #!/bin/bash^^J% > 6 #!/bin/sh > 6 #!bQ7"8Gg6b3eoe>$R71>:0O.S=?1;7XQV?G"!XuWkieE.A([)Gb:<g^IbF&+pDD > 6 #!cslatex > 6 #! <fmtname> <enginename> <hyphen> <args> > 6 #!GaH0,lQdqUHRI!sXe9eQO3Ee^,L\eVF^Wbnu,aSH[**!_"<Pp=0tM"j#6E8hJM_"j#6E?QmeH > 6 #!/gnu/store/2k67pvrdq9hygg2ysgflk94jhbnc9s9g-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/csh > 6 #!/gnu/store/2k67pvrdq9hygg2ysgflk94jhbnc9s9g-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/csh -xv > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -n > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -p -i > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -p -i.bak > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -T > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -T -w > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w > 6 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w > 6 #!H!IX"''9Wa>D7VYA@E`L5suKOJFl<>^ul(bEXhP*HM"9Cbeu,BGMsN,"AdAt[@0 > 6 #!*k<&fW2FrVus62#[IT!r2g.8PT6c"onDor;HKjrVQBcqo8O6&-;h3!XT9::G`Fa"TSNE1E60, > 6 #!Kmci!<<*"Z2t"+!g3]e!<<*"\cMj3"Hj)l!<<*"_?'];"d0#h!<<*"aoVPC#Ef > 6 #!kTb'N:-k+U6(!m^1q$6QNUqf%C$^9!K[Ab31,32$=gB!5?i/?h?%VXZd%RmtRZfZE*me2U0QZ'3/ > 6 #!latex > 6 #! Map belleek.map > 6 #! Map mapname.map > 6 #! MixedMap mapname.map > 6 #!/nix/store/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-glibc-2.18/bin/sh > 6 #!P5"q7-/;:!\TuP1=X[Q1lGL6k.rYpP!p4b6-X*ZAl;G!b8,cGrd14Q5D0jpXMON > 6 #!pdfcslatex > 6 #!pdflatex > 6 #! @PERL@ -w > 6 #!rF>2s`M\gb\?pQ[)lRMVXD7X%;@d6\M.@oPbQ)'8mjcqSsDGM79n2$XtTN<DZbi > 6 #!topic/comp.text.tex/o14P2e83o4A}{comp.text.tex} for a macro that will define commands and also save the commands being defined in a file or a container macro, \eg, for spelling exceptions on editors that don't support \tex syntax. > 6 #!UGlO1/(4)%t4-m<.kt,%uoHGtV4M7IFIlnDr.!2?[>P^t.[[P$W\[/V0J8eAS<P > 6 #! /usr/bin/env perl > 6 #!/usr/bin/env pfaedit > 6 #!/usr/bin/fontforge -lang=ff > 6 #!/usr/bin/fontforge -script > 6 #!/usr/bin/fontforge -script > 6 #!/usr/local/bin/perl > 7 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 > 8 #!/gnu/store/81y6l9ggc5q6z44hp90ll4dv5jl582mq-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 8 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/bash > 8 #!/gnu/store/hw0cz0mis43z19i76pl6ijx5risx4lf0-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 8 #!/gnu/store/pyrlmxqx3g1mhzpnfpw4w94rj08wxfhj-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 8 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/sh > 8 #!/gnu/store/x9c77i6r5fmarslij6ng81awgrxblplm-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 8 #!/gnu/store/xwzyy0q261brxmafkvinrrvkq4rgwiq6-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 8 #!/gnu/store/zzakf905mzla4csi1dn9qpcwmgbxj29b-bash-static-4.4.23/bin/bash > 8 #!/gnu/store/zzakf905mzla4csi1dn9qpcwmgbxj29b-bash-static-4.4.23/bin/sh > 8 #!/usr/bin/perl -n > 8 #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw > 8 #!/usr/local/bin/perl > 8 #!/usr/local/bin/perl5.10.0 > 8 #!/your/path/to/perl > 10 #!/gnu/store/0xfmkqpi7xk3ixhrqvjijk4ibsglif62-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 > 10 #!/gnu/store/cl42c73h609bp2gy92qkh8q56spnnl2n-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 > 10 #!/usr/bin/emacs --script > 11 #!/bin/sh -x > 11 #!!!!!!!!??? Check @pwd_log > 11 #!/gnu/store/g30znz9vwkvi23k41dgallfg85sj65hp-python-wrapper-3.7.0/bin/python > 11 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 > 11 #!/usr/bin/emacs -script > 11 #! /usr/local/bin/python > 12 #!/bin/sh > 12 #! /bin/sh > 12 #! cont-fr pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-fr.mkii > 12 #! cont-it pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-it.mkii > 12 #! cont-nl pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-nl.mkii > 12 #! cont-ro pdftex cont-usr.tex -8bit *cont-ro.mkii > 12 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -n -s > 12 #!/gnu/store/l67sib1ld0fgyf0f4vrzyxnmn4yvimvb-gawk-4.2.1/bin/awk -f > 12 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh -vx > 12 #! Map belleek.map > 12 #! mflua mflua-nowin - mf.ini > 12 #!/usr/bin/env perl > 12 #!/usr/bin/fontforge > 12 #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw > 12 #!/usr/bin/python > 12 #!/usr/local/bin/fontforge > 12 #! /usr/local/bin/perl > 12 #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w > 13 #!/gnu/store/0xfmkqpi7xk3ixhrqvjijk4ibsglif62-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 > 13 #!/gnu/store/b7fqhszxl02g6pfm3vw6b3cjz472qrly-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 > 13 #!/gnu/store/cl42c73h609bp2gy92qkh8q56spnnl2n-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 > 13 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2 > 13 #!/gnu/store/h8l1pby3cm6b4fxsfwwr65b4d1hyh6cs-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 > 13 #!/gnu/store/zm3188ipzi262s0m8bxm24br77yh9pd8-python-3.7.0/bin/python3.7 > 14 #!@EMACS@ --script > 14 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile -ds > 14 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh - > 14 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh -x > 14 #!@GUILE@ \ > 14 #!@GUILE@ -ds > 14 #! luajitlatex luajittex language.dat,language.dat.lua lualatex.ini > 16 #!$PERL > 16 #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w > 17 #!/gnu/store/3w3nz0h93h7jif9d9c3hdfyimgkpx1a4-python-wrapper-3.7.0/bin/python > 18 #! > 18 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -s > 18 #! luajitlatex luajittex language.dat,language.dat.lua lualatex.ini > 18 #!./perl > 18 #!perl.exe (versions below 4) > 18 #!/usr/bin/env perl > 20 #! /gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/bash > 20 #!/usr/bin/perl -w > 21 #!/gnu/store/b7fqhszxl02g6pfm3vw6b3cjz472qrly-python-3.7.0/bin/python3 > 22 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 > 22 #!/usr/bin/env wish > 23 #!/gnu/store/r68bi4640vm0s7zsgyk7shsag8ibl3nc-python-wrapper-3.7.0/bin/python > 24 #!/bin/lua > 24 #!/usr/bin/lua > 24 #!/usr/bin/perl > 25 #!/gnu/store/57daq0hkwvmwx4asiy669cmln868brfm-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 > 25 #!perl -w > 28 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 > 28 #!perl > 29 #!/gnu/store/bs6bwq60sh3zamgiqmkyryf1lxbfjkgd-lua-5.3.5/bin/lua > 30 #![allow(dead_code, unused_variables)] > 30 #!/usr/bin/env python > 32 #!/usr/bin/env perl > 33 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl > 35 #![allow(unused_variables)] > 35 #! /bin/sh -e > 35 #![feature(omit_gdb_pretty_printer_section)] > 36 #! $SHELL > 38 #!/gnu/store/@dots{}-guile-2.0.11/bin/guile -ds > 38 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python2.7 > 40 #!/bin/sh > 40 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile --no-auto-compile > 42 #!/gnu/store/r658y3cgpnf99nxjxqgjiaizx20ac4k0-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile --no-auto-compile > 42 #!/usr/bin/env ../utility/fontforge-interp.sh > 44 #!/usr/bin/perl > 45 #!/usr/bin/env ruby > 46 #!location/of/bin/ruby > 47 #!@BASH@ > 48 #!/usr/bin/env texlua > 50 #!/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guile \ > 51 #!/usr/bin/perl -w > 53 #!/usr/bin/env fontforge > 56 #!@SHELL@ > 56 #!/usr/bin/perl > 57 #!/gnu/store/5wp8mhmlq2xbd6kg0dq7armjgva7j7cs-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl > 60 #!/gnu/store/2k67pvrdq9hygg2ysgflk94jhbnc9s9g-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/csh -f > 61 #!/gnu/store/zvm2hcnbcv9mygzwpbrb6pvj1nc9wbfv-perl-boot0-5.28.0/bin/perl > 63 #!location/of/bin/bash > 64 #! /bin/sh > 66 #!/usr/bin/perl -w > 80 #! /usr/bin/env python > 90 #! /usr/bin/env python3 > 108 #!/gnu/store/fndcvkn64ycw720d3ikjvmyvhsqk2v4n-ruby-2.5.3/bin/ruby > 110 #!~a > 116 #!/usr/bin/perl > 137 #!/bin/sh > 140 #!/gnu/store/61sixy2zjzlrpqwxphzf7v6h0yaysx1s-ruby-2.5.3/bin/ruby > 140 #!/gnu/store/lgbiv7q1b6m141nrkjm92qkl9ih5gamw-python2-2.7.15/bin/python > 145 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/sh > 146 #!/gnu/store/hw0cz0mis43z19i76pl6ijx5risx4lf0-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 146 #!/gnu/store/xwzyy0q261brxmafkvinrrvkq4rgwiq6-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 150 #!/gnu/store/81y6l9ggc5q6z44hp90ll4dv5jl582mq-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 150 #!/gnu/store/pyrlmxqx3g1mhzpnfpw4w94rj08wxfhj-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 150 #!/gnu/store/x9c77i6r5fmarslij6ng81awgrxblplm-texlive-bin-20180414/bin/texlua > 162 #!/usr/bin/env python3 > 167 #!/bin/bash > 169 #!/usr/bin/env python > 207 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python > 209 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python > 228 #!/bin/sh > 292 #!/gnu/store/5s2nib1lrd2101bbrivcl17kjx1mspw6-coreutils-8.30/bin/false > 292 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/false > 319 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w > 362 #!/bin/bash > 1589 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl > 2706 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/bash > 3294 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh > 3871 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash > ----------------------------------------------------- Yeah, a guix package should patch all those shell interperters from /bin, /usr/bin, etc to the store path under /gnu/store, but may miss some cases (which should be fixed). > > Some look a bit weird, like > 6 #!/nix/store/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-glibc-2.18/bin/sh > but I guess it could be a template for some remote context. Idk. > There is no /nix directory on my disk anyway. Maybe inside a ramdisk image? I don't know, guess it should be fine... > > (There were lots of matches in what appears binary to grep, but they were > all to inside /gnu/store, so I eliminated them for here, with -I) > > BTW, I haven't yet started shepherd automatically, and it isn't running in the above. > Just guix-daemon: > from emacs I'm in now: Esc-1 Esc-! ps -e f |grep -i guix > 530 ? Ss 0:00 /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/current-guix/bin/guix-daemon --build-users-group=guixbuild > 31185 ? Ss 0:00 \_ /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash -c ps -e f |grep -i guix > 31187 ? S 0:00 \_ grep -i guix > > I have set SHELL=/home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash in ~/.bash_profile, > but as seen, that doesn't take effect for the immediate login shell. > > I wonder if I could exec it at the end of ~/.bash_profile -- or even as the first and only thing, hm... Both should work, but you might try the guix system if have so much choices trouble you :-) > > Hope someone can point to to enlightening reading re names in guix and its environments. TIA ;-) > > Bengt Richter I'm not sure what you mean about "names" and "environments", in the low-level, they are: filesystem: guix use /gnu, /var/guix, /var/log/guix, and $HOME/.guix-profile, your distribution doesn't use those, so guix can live within it happily. environment variables: PATH, MANPATH, INFOPATH (and more...), both guix and your distribution share the same ones, so there maybe some conflicts. Hope it helps!
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#37249: console shell upon login is not ~/.guix-profile/bash -- is this always/never ok? Resent-From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 13:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.37249.B37249.156803647724971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37249 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6?= <iyzsong@HIDDEN> Cc: 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Received: via spool by 37249-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B37249.156803647724971 (code B ref 37249); Mon, 09 Sep 2019 13:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 37249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2019 13:41:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1i7Juu-0006Uh-HU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 09:41:16 -0400 Received: from imta-36.everyone.net ([216.200.145.36]:56306 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1i7Jus-0006UY-HQ for 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 09:41:15 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x89DbhvC008925; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 06:41:12 -0700 X-Eon-Originating-Account: G9on09GEkbfIE8wQvZFD4fAC_-XIPrzj0WZXJFlowAc X-Eon-Dm: m0117124.ppops.net Received: by m0117124.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 32d0d199) id m0117124.5d70551d.4d127f; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 06:41:09 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJddlZ1AyZcrwIAAAAC,fc665b44eb8ca4d2dc7ded75a81294f0 X-Eip: DLhklwQAMaI-kpmwOIDWW7TNi6vC9JSKgGX8wdki8yQ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 06:40:56 -0700 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <20190909134056.GA11306@HIDDEN> References: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> <87r24sij7f.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87r24sij7f.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-09-09_06:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1034 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1909090139 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On +2019-09-07 16:50:12 +0800, 宋文武 wrote: > Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Hello, > > > > In the pursuit of causes for problems as yet not clear enough to > > post as bugs, I am looking for ambivalences in name searches > > in /gnu/... and /(the-rest). > > Hello, I think most guix packages (some won't or require manual > configurations) will work on a foreign GNU/Linux distribution, and guix > shouldn't cause problems for the distribution. > Hi ???iyzsong, Thank you for caring to answer, and for your time working on it! Unfortunately for me, perhaps, I am interested in pursuing purity in the definition of systems, so "shoulds" are not that reassuring ;-) I think your advice, > "... you might try the guix system if have so much > choices trouble you :-) may be the easiest way to improve my current situation, so I will see about doing that. Thanks :) [...] > > After login, user's shell program as specified in /etc/passwd will be > executed. So you should have '/usr/bin/bash' or '/bin/bash' in > /etc/passwd, and your $PATH have '$HOME/.guix-profile/bin' before > '/usr/bin', so when type 'bash' in a shell, the guix one got executed. > Yes, but I don't normally type bash -- I type the name of some script I've written and put in ~/bin, and it was typically written years ago with a #!/usr/bin/bash first line, and I don't want to have to modify all those ;-) Especially those that I might have put in a personal git repo. Would I have to, to migrate all those little helpers to my GuixSD ?? [...] > > [13:42 ~/bs]$ which -a bash > > /home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash > > /usr/bin/bash > > [13:43 ~/bs]$ which -a bash|xargs readlink -f|while read line;do echo -ne "$line:\n "; file "$line";done > > /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash: > > /gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash: > > ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter > > /gnu/store/h90vnqw0nwd0hhm1l5dgxsdrigddfmq4-glibc-2.28/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, > > for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped > > /usr/bin/bash: > > /usr/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, > > interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=21a51cb5f7d727370e4d8099d283d7cd20222571, > > for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped > > > > Are the differences possibly dangerous? > > It's totally OK, you can use both :-) > Until I have to diagnose a difference in behaviour ;-) > > > > Looking for dependencies outside of /gnu from within /gnu, I grepped the whole > > as you see below. I am sure most of this is fine and coming out of documentation > > and stuff meant for other than normally booted runtime. But does it all look ok? > > > > Or is my foreign-host twilight-zone shared ArchLinux/guix namespace really not > > meant to be. I.e., is guix really defined to use /usr/ as a trusted base namespace > > when it is defined by e.g. linux-libre in GuixSD ? > > > > Where would be the best docs to read about the guix name and environment rationales? > > There are no 'namespace' involed, guix and your ArchLinux packages share > the same filesystem. And guix binaries are self-contained, they can > work without any dependenices outsite of /gnu (sometimes they will use > what's available in PATH, etc. which may be provided by your distribution). > I meant namespace in the general sense of a "space" to look for the meaning of a name in, sorry to abuse the term. Anyhow, that "sometimes" leaves me guessing ;-) > > > > Ok, here is the grep: [...] > > 162 #!/usr/bin/env python3 > > 167 #!/bin/bash > > 169 #!/usr/bin/env python > > 207 #!/gnu/store/iqx98v4rnw26n4qn555l4pbj96navxiv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python > > 209 #!/gnu/store/g87hamjyipk1j6dfq5pjfzfnfb64spbv-python2-2.7.15/bin/python > > 228 #!/bin/sh > > 292 #!/gnu/store/5s2nib1lrd2101bbrivcl17kjx1mspw6-coreutils-8.30/bin/false > > 292 #!/gnu/store/8z9avbgm73nzrbkhscps68gcpfipgllc-bootstrap-binaries-0/bin/false > > 319 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl -w > > 362 #!/bin/bash > > 1589 #!/gnu/store/dna8kpb00kq176rz8x69yy4j33my2q55-perl-5.28.0/bin/perl > > 2706 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/bash > > 3294 #!/gnu/store/q19l04vd2za80mk1845pz7r8cz29qk43-bash-minimal-4.4.23/bin/sh > > 3871 #!/gnu/store/qn1ax1fkj16x280m1rv7mcimfmn9l2pf-bash-4.4.23/bin/bash > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Yeah, a guix package should patch all those shell interperters from > /bin, /usr/bin, etc to the store path under /gnu/store, but may miss > some cases (which should be fixed). > I can live with work in progress ;-) [...] > > I have set SHELL=/home/bokr/.guix-profile/bin/bash in ~/.bash_profile, > > but as seen, that doesn't take effect for the immediate login shell. > > > > I wonder if I could exec it at the end of ~/.bash_profile -- or even as the first and only thing, hm... > > Both should work, but you might try the guix system if have so much > choices trouble you :-) > > Actually, neither exec worked the ways I tried. Idk, maybe by design, so as not to allow exec to replace the process that catches seg faults etc and cleans up on logout. > > Hope someone can point to to enlightening reading re names in guix and its environments. TIA ;-) > > > > Bengt Richter > > I'm not sure what you mean about "names" and "environments", in the > low-level, they are: > > filesystem: > guix use /gnu, /var/guix, /var/log/guix, and $HOME/.guix-profile, your > distribution doesn't use those, so guix can live within it happily. > > environment variables: > PATH, MANPATH, INFOPATH (and more...), both guix and your distribution > share the same ones, so there maybe some conflicts. > Yup, I am experiencing those ;-) > Hope it helps! Yes, actually. Thank you! Regards, Bengt Richter
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#37249: console shell upon login is not ~/.guix-profile/bash -- is this always/never ok? Resent-From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.37249.B37249.156809883919955 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37249 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Cc: 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37249-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B37249.156809883919955 (code B ref 37249); Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 37249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2019 07:00:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1i7a8l-0005Bm-6Q for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 03:00:39 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:50582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <efraim@HIDDEN>) id 1i7a8j-0005BF-La for 37249 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 03:00:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [188.120.128.191]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A655440234; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 10:00:29 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <20190910070029.GE977@E5400> References: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7mxbaLlpDEyR1+x6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190831222104.GA11128@HIDDEN> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --7mxbaLlpDEyR1+x6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is something I'm also interested in. Something I've found while looking around online is checking 'ssh server env | grep PATH', and on my Guix System machines I see it is PATH=3D/run/current-system/profile/bin. It seems that playing with ~/.ssh/environment and/or ~/.ssh/rc might yield changes, but the real question IMO is if you can change things without changing sshd_config. --=20 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --7mxbaLlpDEyR1+x6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl13SgYACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1GsgA/+Ko/LH5r+13WxuEKXlvSBRMzWG6sFENnejS5mebHishlOl1Jc/iye7llB bKPq2A+75RrvtIlQIMSupraP5YLzPmDo3LJ5gRUkLf8pnsJPfAoDk7HNFODdlBVY 6/2g6AyDlkqgWfCfSSHt2W4Gu2wfS3pAbWJ4osROnAEfXoiP5pJe/Zjy8xhQ0hjp i2KJNuqgFmOMWseYNo5uUu5VDYwFMN9HrYhbQkKQwa3jO+YqnKPQLlZ0cQ1HdRE/ Hkqp/wO2JYEmNCU1Wc0dU8H9JU9/upSNaeM+vK9pX8V4CY+hQb1WhM7YITCMM+I3 v1zCYSTHsmbqP8Aeqqqhqmv+tX3j2BB5kevyzPXepDIrIoJFfJk2OioKYeGVmutl 4PRW87+gJPYda8iaysjFZ7Y6dHBtCWvlZeGyWd93joTPXZncEIC/CWpFGZAq8wOR P9uGqhmxOeeQrqkT0A2XVvx2P+ecq3mdaXEbJF179mgkqUDcMUSAv+tmF651cNby vlnDU/YVJxNApleyMz5yzMCHdPM8g0xwxYxEElBqB+sxkcFVAIeUHlBVC/Wjy4jp zQf++DMwMt4TMiDxL57Utdhj2Z9uJ/bJb6Z6qyEl8chy3em+czi70tyzPzZTx6K1 xKdQxQ9OwFACAeWqa4WHAh5sPRsTjsJSm+NVcf/+VFpFn46wtWk= =SBBS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7mxbaLlpDEyR1+x6--
GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham,
1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd,
1994-97 Ian Jackson.